[Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev][tacker] Unexpected files are created after installing Tacker

2016-10-20 Thread zhi
hi, tackers

I have some questions about installing Tacker.

I have an physical environment which installed Tacker a few days ago. Today
I have pulled the latest code.
Then I upgrade the database by using
"
  tacker-db-manage --database-connection "mysql+pymysql://
root:12345@127.0.0.1/tacker?charset=utf8" upgrade head
"
At last I execute this command " python setup.py install ". I uploaded the
output at [1].

But I met some issues about the files which were generated.

There is directory named " tacker/db/vm " in the path "
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages ". But this directory doesn't exist in the
source code.

In the [1], I found this command "creating
/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/tacker/db/vm" .  But the directory
" tacker/db/vm " doesn't exist anymore. Because this wrong directory and
files in this directory, tacker-server doesn't startup correctly.

Could someone tell me the reason why this directory was generated?


Thanks

[1]. http://paste.openstack.org/show/586528/
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[Openstack-operators] [Large Deployments Team] Meeting Reminder - October 20, 2016 16:00 UTC

2016-10-20 Thread Matt Van Winkle
Hello LDT folks!

Just a reminder that the monthly meeting is in a little over 3 hours.  I 
apologize for the short notice.  I’d like to discuss the upcoming summit, and 
what our plan is for the time that we have.  See you all in 
#openstack-operators!

Thanks!
VW
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Re: [Openstack-operators] [openstack-dev] [puppet][tripleo][fuel] Upcoming changes to defaults around using processor count for worker configurations

2016-10-20 Thread Alex Schultz
Hey Sergii,

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 3:34 AM, Sergii Golovatiuk
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Alex Schultz  wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> So for many years we've been using either the service defaults
>> (usually python determined processor count) or the $processorcount
>> fact from facter in puppet for worker configuration options for the
>> OpenStack services.  If you are currently using the default values
>> provided by the puppet modules, you will be affected by this upcoming
>> change. After much discussion and feedback from deployers, we've
>> decided to change this to a default value that has a cap on it.  This
>> is primarily from the feedback when deploying on physical hardware
>> where processor counts can be 32, 48 or even 512.  These values can
>> lead to excessive memory consumption or errors due to connection
>> limits (mysql/rabbit).  As such we've come up with a new fact to that
>> will be used instead of $processorcount.
>>
>> The new fact is called $os_workers[0]. This fact uses the
>> $processorcount to help weigh in on the number of workers to configure
>> and won't be less than 2 but is capped at 8.  The $os_workers fact
>> will use the larger value of either '2' or '# of processors / 4' but
>> will not exceed 8.  The primary goal of this is to improve the user
>> experience when people install services using the puppet modules and
>> without having to tune all of these worker values.  We plan on
>> implementing this for all modules as part of the Ocata cycle.  This
>> work will can be tracked using the os_workers-fact[1] gerrit topic.
>> It should be noted that we have implemented this fact in such a way
>> that operators are free to override it using an external fact to
>> provide their own values as well.  If you are currently specifying
>> your own values for the worker configurations in your manifests then
>> this change will not affect you.  If you have been relying on the
>> defaults and wish to continue to use the $processorcount logic, we
>> would recommend either implementing your own external fact[2] for this
>> or updating your manifests to provide $::processorcount to the workers
>> configuration.
>
>
> This doesn't help a lot. I saw the case where 8 neutron-servers allocated
> 6GB of RAM. From OOM perspective, the biggest process was MySQL (or Rabbit)
> as it doesn't calculate the sum of processes. Instead of killing
> neutron-server it killed MySQL to release some RAM to node. IMO, I would
> focus on cgroup limitation for OpenStack services as that will allow the
> operator to specify some the upper limit of CPU and RAM usage for every
> service.
>

Yea this isn't a fix for excessive ram utilization of the services
themselves. This primarily reduces the default consumption. I recently
went to implement using this fact in tripleo[0] and it reduced the
default memory utilization of the undercloud by a little over 1gig[1]
in our CI runs.  This was on a 4 cpu vhost so we basically halfed the
number of running python processes by switching for the 17 different
services that may run.  So yea this isn't the end solution for dealing
with excessive memory consumption but rather an improvement over the
existing processor count usage.  The primary target for this is really
to prevent accidental blowing up of mysql connections when a host has
large number of cpus but also reducing the overall number of processes
by default.

Thanks,
-Alex

[0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386696/
[1] http://people.redhat.com/~aschultz/os_workers.html

>>
>> As always we'd love to hear feedback on this and any other issues
>> people might be facing. We're always available in #puppet-openstack on
>> freenode or via the mailing lists.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Alex
>>
>>
>> [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375146/
>> [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:os_workers-fact
>> [2] https://docs.puppet.com/facter/3.4/custom_facts.html#external-facts
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[Openstack-operators] OpenContrail Users at the BCN Summit?

2016-10-20 Thread Curtis
Hi All,

Are there any OpenContrail users that will be at the summit next week?
If so let me know because I'd like to talk to anyone who would be
willing to chat with me about it. :) I searched the schedule a bit but
didn't find anything obvious. Might have missed it.

Thanks,
Curtis.

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Re: [Openstack-operators] OpenContrail Users at the BCN Summit?

2016-10-20 Thread Matthew Welch
A few of our team members will be out at the summit next week.
Meeting up to chat would be great.

- matt

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Curtis  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Are there any OpenContrail users that will be at the summit next week?
> If so let me know because I'd like to talk to anyone who would be
> willing to chat with me about it. :) I searched the schedule a bit but
> didn't find anything obvious. Might have missed it.
>
> Thanks,
> Curtis.
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[Openstack-operators] 2017 Openstack Operators Mid-Cycle Meetups - venue selection etherpads

2016-10-20 Thread Chris Morgan
Hello Everyone,

Here are etherpads for the collection of venue hosting proposals and
assessment:

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-spring-2017
https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss-aug-2017

For your reference, the previous etherpad (for august 2016 was eventually
was decided to be in NYC) was :

https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ops-meetup-venue-discuss

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[Openstack-operators] Participate in a Usability Study at Barcelona: Get a free bluetooth speaker and OpenStack t-shirt for your time

2016-10-20 Thread Kruithof Jr, Pieter
Apologies for any cross-postings.


Hi Folks,

I wanted to send a second notice that there will be two usability studies being 
conducted in Barcelona with cloud operators. We had nearly a 100% show rate 
last summit and the results had a direct impact on the OpenStackClient.  In 
fact, the results were shared at the OSC working session the next day.

Intel is providing a Philips bluetooth speaker to show our appreciation for 
your time.  In addition, the foundation is providing a t-shirt to each person 
that participates in the study. I may even give anyone suffering from jetlag a 
Red Bull to get them through the day.

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The first study will be on Monday, October 24th and is intended to investigate 
the current APIs to understand any specific pain points associated with 
completing tasks that span projects such as quotas.  This study will last 45 
minutes per operator.

You can schedule a time here:

http://doodle.com/poll/fwfi2sfcuctxv3u8

Note that you may need to set the time zone in Doodle to Spain > Ceuta

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The second study will be on Tuesday, October 25th and is intended to 
investigate the OpenStackClient to understand any specific pain points and 
opportunities associated with completing tasks with the client.  This study 
will last 45 minutes per operator.  We ran a similar study at the previous 
summit and the feedback from users was that it was a good opportunity to “test 
drive” the client with an OSC expert in the room with them.

You can schedule a time here:

http://doodle.com/poll/894aqsmheaa2mv5a

Note that you may need to set the time zone in Doodle to Spain > Ceuta


For both studies, someone with the OpenStack UX project will send you a 
calendar invite after you select a time(s) that are convenient for you.


Thanks,


Piet Kruithof
PTL OpenStack UX

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[Openstack-operators] What do customers want?: Six studies conducted by the OpenStack UX project on behalf of the community

2016-10-20 Thread Kruithof Jr, Pieter
Hi Folks,

The OpenStack UX project and Intel have produced three booklets for the 
Barcelona OpenStack Summit based on the OpenStack UX’s work over the past six 
months.

The first is an overview of user research that was conducted on behalf of the 
OpenStack community including operator information needs, novice user 
experience for Horizon, OpenStackClient (OSC) validation and managing quotas at 
scale.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8h-c0zHxYBoXzFMQWJsY09Eclk/view?usp=sharing

The second booklets include the OpenStack Personas and GUI Guidelines:

OpenStack Personas:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8h-c0zHxYBoMXB4UVgtdFFsaDQ/view?usp=sharing

OpenStack GUI Guidelines:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8h-c0zHxYBoV0tHV1l5bVpZZzg/view?usp=sharing


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Unfortunately, we were unable to include the results for the 
searchlight/horizon integration as well as cloud architect information needs.  
However, the presentations are posted to the OpenStack UX YouTube channel.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt6h129lzcjUqLDY005aCxw

The channel is updated regularly, so it may be worth checking from time to time.


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For extra credit, my suggestion would be to read the “State of OpenStack User 
Experience October 2016” which provides a succinct overview of the research 
that was conducted, why it matters, results, and recommendations.

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1hZYCOADJ1gXiFHT1ahwv8-tDIQCSingu7zqSMbKFZ_Y/edit?usp=sharing



Thanks,

Piet Kruithof
PTL OpenStack UX project
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