[Openstack-operators] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack

2018-10-17 Thread Tony Breeds
Hello all,
As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release have
now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
qualifying remarks can be seen at2].

Proposed Names
 * Tarryall
 * Teakettle
 * Teller
 * Telluride
 * Thomas
 * Thornton
 * Tiger
 * Tincup
 * Timnath
 * Timber
 * Tiny Town
 * Torreys
 * Trail
 * Trinidad
 * Treasure
 * Troublesome
 * Trussville
 * Turret
 * Tyrone

Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
 * Train

However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is 

 * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
 * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
   sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
 * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
   geographic based name for U[5]
 * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
   run the poll

I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before the
TC can consider / vote on it.

Yours Tony.

[1] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
[4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z


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Re: [Openstack-operators] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack

2018-10-18 Thread Anita Kuno

On 2018-10-18 2:35 a.m., Tony Breeds wrote:

Hello all,
 As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release have
now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
qualifying remarks can be seen at2].

Proposed Names
  * Tarryall
  * Teakettle
  * Teller
  * Telluride
  * Thomas
  * Thornton
  * Tiger
  * Tincup
  * Timnath
  * Timber
  * Tiny Town
  * Torreys
  * Trail
  * Trinidad
  * Treasure
  * Troublesome
  * Trussville
  * Turret
  * Tyrone

Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
  * Train

However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is

  * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
  * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
  * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
geographic based name for U[5]
  * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
run the poll

I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before the
TC can consider / vote on it.

Yours Tony.

[1] 
http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
[2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
[3] https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
[4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z


I stand in opposition to any action that further undermines democracy.

I have avoided events in Denver lately for this reason.

If the support for Train is as universal as is portrayed, the poll with 
show us that.


I don't care what the name is. I do want to participate in the 
selection. The method of participating has heretofore been a poll. I 
have seen no convincing argument to abandon the use of a poll now.


I stand for what democracy there remains. I would like to participate in 
a poll.


Thank you, Anita

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Re: [Openstack-operators] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack

2018-10-18 Thread Melvin Hillsman
I agree with Anita and wonder why Train did not meet the criteria? If there
is no way for Train to be an option outside of killing the voting, than for
the sake of integrity of processes which I have heard quite a few people
hold close to we should drop Train from the list. It is an unfortunate
thing in my view because I am actually a "non-developer" who agreed during
the feedback session that Train would be a great name but Anita is right on
this one imho.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:32 AM Anita Kuno  wrote:

> On 2018-10-18 2:35 a.m., Tony Breeds wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >  As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release have
> > now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
> > qualifying remarks can be seen at2].
> >
> > Proposed Names
> >   * Tarryall
> >   * Teakettle
> >   * Teller
> >   * Telluride
> >   * Thomas
> >   * Thornton
> >   * Tiger
> >   * Tincup
> >   * Timnath
> >   * Timber
> >   * Tiny Town
> >   * Torreys
> >   * Trail
> >   * Trinidad
> >   * Treasure
> >   * Troublesome
> >   * Trussville
> >   * Turret
> >   * Tyrone
> >
> > Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
> >   * Train
> >
> > However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
> > the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is
> >
> >   * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
> >   * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
> > sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
> >   * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
> > geographic based name for U[5]
> >   * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
> > run the poll
> >
> > I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before
> the
> > TC can consider / vote on it.
> >
> > Yours Tony.
> >
> > [1]
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
> > [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
> > [3]
> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
> > [4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
> > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z
>
> I stand in opposition to any action that further undermines democracy.
>
> I have avoided events in Denver lately for this reason.
>
> If the support for Train is as universal as is portrayed, the poll with
> show us that.
>
> I don't care what the name is. I do want to participate in the
> selection. The method of participating has heretofore been a poll. I
> have seen no convincing argument to abandon the use of a poll now.
>
> I stand for what democracy there remains. I would like to participate in
> a poll.
>
> Thank you, Anita
>
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Re: [Openstack-operators] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack

2018-10-18 Thread Zhipeng Huang
Just do a vote as usual, train is a great candidate :)

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 11:44 PM Melvin Hillsman 
wrote:

> I agree with Anita and wonder why Train did not meet the criteria? If
> there is no way for Train to be an option outside of killing the voting,
> than for the sake of integrity of processes which I have heard quite a few
> people hold close to we should drop Train from the list. It is an
> unfortunate thing in my view because I am actually a "non-developer" who
> agreed during the feedback session that Train would be a great name but
> Anita is right on this one imho.
>
> On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 10:32 AM Anita Kuno  wrote:
>
>> On 2018-10-18 2:35 a.m., Tony Breeds wrote:
>> > Hello all,
>> >  As per [1] the nomination period for names for the T release have
>> > now closed (actually 3 days ago sorry).  The nominated names and any
>> > qualifying remarks can be seen at2].
>> >
>> > Proposed Names
>> >   * Tarryall
>> >   * Teakettle
>> >   * Teller
>> >   * Telluride
>> >   * Thomas
>> >   * Thornton
>> >   * Tiger
>> >   * Tincup
>> >   * Timnath
>> >   * Timber
>> >   * Tiny Town
>> >   * Torreys
>> >   * Trail
>> >   * Trinidad
>> >   * Treasure
>> >   * Troublesome
>> >   * Trussville
>> >   * Turret
>> >   * Tyrone
>> >
>> > Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria
>> >   * Train
>> >
>> > However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
>> > the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is
>> >
>> >   * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
>> >   * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
>> > sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
>> >   * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
>> > geographic based name for U[5]
>> >   * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
>> > run the poll
>> >
>> > I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before
>> the
>> > TC can consider / vote on it.
>> >
>> > Yours Tony.
>> >
>> > [1]
>> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2018-September/134995.html
>> > [2] https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Naming/T_Proposals
>> > [3]
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/q/I0d8d3f24af0ee8578712878a3d6617aad1e55e53
>> > [4] https://twitter.com/vkmc/status/1040321043959754752
>> > [5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_places_in_Colorado:_T–Z
>>
>> I stand in opposition to any action that further undermines democracy.
>>
>> I have avoided events in Denver lately for this reason.
>>
>> If the support for Train is as universal as is portrayed, the poll with
>> show us that.
>>
>> I don't care what the name is. I do want to participate in the
>> selection. The method of participating has heretofore been a poll. I
>> have seen no convincing argument to abandon the use of a poll now.
>>
>> I stand for what democracy there remains. I would like to participate in
>> a poll.
>>
>> Thank you, Anita
>>
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>
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>
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Re: [Openstack-operators] [all] Naming the T release of OpenStack

2018-10-18 Thread iain MacDonnell



On 10/18/2018 08:31 AM, Anita Kuno wrote:

On 2018-10-18 2:35 a.m., Tony Breeds wrote:

...

However I'd like to suggest we skip the CIVS poll and select 'Train' as
the release name by TC resolution[3].  My think for this is

  * It's fun and celebrates a humorous moment in our community
  * As a developer I've heard the T release called Train for quite
    sometime, and was used often at the PTG[4].
  * As the *next* PTG is also in Colorado we can still choose a
    geographic based name for U[5]
  * If train causes a problem for trademark reasons then we can always
    run the poll

I'll leave[3] for marked -W for a week for discussion to happen before 
the TC can consider / vote on it.


I stand in opposition to any action that further undermines democracy.

I have avoided events in Denver lately for this reason.

If the support for Train is as universal as is portrayed, the poll with 
show us that.


I don't care what the name is. I do want to participate in the 
selection. The method of participating has heretofore been a poll. I 
have seen no convincing argument to abandon the use of a poll now.


I stand for what democracy there remains. I would like to participate in 
a poll.


+1

... and if you're not going to use the nominations, don't waste people's 
time asking for submissions.


I'm not super-fond of Train, since "release train" means something 
(else), at least in some contexts...


~iain

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[Openstack-operators] [all]Naming the T release of OpenStack -- Poll open

2018-10-29 Thread Tony Breeds
Hi folks,

It is time again to cast your vote for the naming of the T Release.
As with last time we'll use a public polling option over per user private URLs
for voting.  This means, everybody should proceed to use the following URL to
cast their vote:

  
https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/vote.pl?id=E_aac97f1cbb6c61df&akey=b9e448b340787f0e

We've selected a public poll to ensure that the whole community, not just gerrit
change owners get a vote.  Also the size of our community has grown such that we
can overwhelm CIVS if using private urls.  A public can mean that users
behind NAT, proxy servers or firewalls may receive an message saying
that your vote has already been lodged, if this happens please try
another IP.

Because this is a public poll, results will currently be only viewable by myself
until the poll closes. Once closed, I'll post the URL making the results
viewable to everybody. This was done to avoid everybody seeing the results while
the public poll is running.

The poll will officially end on 2018-11-08 00:00:00+00:00[1], and results will 
be
posted shortly after.

[1] https://governance.openstack.org/tc/reference/release-naming.html
---

According to the Release Naming Process, this poll is to determine the
community preferences for the name of the T release of OpenStack. It is
possible that the top choice is not viable for legal reasons, so the second or
later community preference could wind up being the name.

Release Name Criteria
-

Each release name must start with the letter of the ISO basic Latin alphabet
following the initial letter of the previous release, starting with the
initial release of "Austin". After "Z", the next name should start with
"A" again.

The name must be composed only of the 26 characters of the ISO basic Latin
alphabet. Names which can be transliterated into this character set are also
acceptable.

The name must refer to the physical or human geography of the region
encompassing the location of the OpenStack design summit for the
corresponding release. The exact boundaries of the geographic region under
consideration must be declared before the opening of nominations, as part of
the initiation of the selection process.

The name must be a single word with a maximum of 10 characters. Words that
describe the feature should not be included, so "Foo City" or "Foo Peak"
would both be eligible as "Foo".

Names which do not meet these criteria but otherwise sound really cool
should be added to a separate section of the wiki page and the TC may make
an exception for one or more of them to be considered in the Condorcet poll.
The naming official is responsible for presenting the list of exceptional
names for consideration to the TC before the poll opens.

Exact Geographic Region
---

The Geographic Region from where names for the S release will come is Colorado

Proposed Names
--

* Tarryall
* Teakettle
* Teller
* Telluride
* Thomas : the Tank Engine
* Thornton
* Tiger
* Tincup
* Timnath
* Timber
* Tiny Town
* Torreys
* Trail
* Trinidad
* Treasure
* Troublesome
* Trussville
* Turret
* Tyrone

Proposed Names that do not meet the criteria (accepted by the TC)
-

* Train🚂 : Many Attendees of the first Denver PTG have a story to tell about 
the trains near the PTG hotel.  We could celebrate those stories with this name

Yours Tony.


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