Re: [Openstack-operators] Neutron upgrade from Kilo to Mitaka

2016-05-19 Thread Kingshott, Daniel
+1 for Ihar¹s comments, the issue you will have is the deb packages will
have dependencies that will be a huge pain, you would have to spin up a
separate set of boxes for neutron and update the keystone endpoint.


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On 5/19/16, 12:54 PM, "Ihar Hrachyshka"  wrote:

>
>> On 19 May 2016, at 21:43, Akshik dbk  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I¹m have a Fuel 7.0 based environment [kilo], wanted to upgrade the
>>>Neutron to Mitaka version. is it possible to upgrade Neutron alone to
>>>the Mitaka version.
>
>Developers don¹t make any special effort to support mixed environments
>that span more than +1 release. It may or may not work.
>
>Even then the assumption is that your neutron services are using a
>runtime environment that is isolated from other (kilo) services. I think
>Fuel does not install services in containers, so they would need to run
>on separate nodes.
>
>Ihar
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Re: [Openstack-operators] Neutron upgrade from Kilo to Mitaka

2016-05-19 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka
Akshik, please include the address of the original mailing list in your replies.

> On 19 May 2016, at 22:17, Akshik dbk  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ihar,
> 
> Thanks for the response, 
> 
> yes, Fuel does not run in containers
> 
> correct me if I’m wrong, so upgrading neutron dependencies would have impact 
> on other services as well?  
> 

If you colocate neutron (mitaka) services with other (kilo) services on the 
same node, and if they are not isolated in a container, they share runtime 
environment, including their python dependencies. I am not even sure your 
packaging system will allow you to install such a mixed environment. But if it 
will, all bets are off on whether it will work in any way since now kilo 
services will use (some) mitaka dependencies, which is definitely not supported 
by upstream.

> 
> From: Ihar Hrachyshka 
> Date: 20 May 2016 at 1:24:31 AM
> To: Akshik dbk 
> CC: openstack-operators@lists.openstack.org 
> 
> Subject:  Re: [Openstack-operators] Neutron upgrade from Kilo to Mitaka 
> 
>> 
>> > On 19 May 2016, at 21:43, Akshik dbk  wrote: 
>> > 
>> >> Hi, 
>> >> 
>> >> I’m have a Fuel 7.0 based environment [kilo], wanted to upgrade the 
>> >> Neutron to Mitaka version. is it possible to upgrade Neutron alone to the 
>> >> Mitaka version. 
>> 
>> Developers don’t make any special effort to support mixed environments that 
>> span more than +1 release. It may or may not work. 
>> 
>> Even then the assumption is that your neutron services are using a runtime 
>> environment that is isolated from other (kilo) services. I think Fuel does 
>> not install services in containers, so they would need to run on separate 
>> nodes. 
>> 
>> Ihar


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Re: [Openstack-operators] Neutron upgrade from Kilo to Mitaka

2016-05-19 Thread Ihar Hrachyshka

> On 19 May 2016, at 21:43, Akshik dbk  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I’m have a Fuel 7.0 based environment [kilo], wanted to upgrade the Neutron 
>> to Mitaka version. is it possible to upgrade Neutron alone to the Mitaka 
>> version.

Developers don’t make any special effort to support mixed environments that 
span more than +1 release. It may or may not work.

Even then the assumption is that your neutron services are using a runtime 
environment that is isolated from other (kilo) services. I think Fuel does not 
install services in containers, so they would need to run on separate nodes.

Ihar
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[Openstack-operators] Neutron upgrade from Kilo to Mitaka

2016-05-19 Thread Akshik dbk
Hi,

I’m have a Fuel 7.0 based environment [kilo], wanted to upgrade the Neutron to 
Mitaka version. is it possible to upgrade Neutron alone to the Mitaka version.

if so can someone point me to right direction.
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