[Openstack-poc] [Bug 976267] Re: auto generate AUTHORS for packaging

2012-05-03 Thread Bhuvaneswaran A
** Project changed: openstack-ci => openstack-common

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Title:
  auto generate AUTHORS for packaging

Status in openstack-common:
  New

Bug description:
  As discussed in bug 920757, the check-ins for all projects are gated
  using CLA sign. It's not necessary to enforce an entry in AUTHORS
  file. The file should be auto-generated when we package using "python
  setup.py sdist" command. The .mailmap file, if exists, should be
  honored. This is applicable for all projects, swift, keystone, nova
  and glance.

  Once this is resolved, we could remove the test, test_authors.py that
  check for an entry in AUTHORS file.

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[Openstack-poc] [Bug 976267] [NEW] auto generate AUTHORS for packaging

2012-05-03 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
You have been subscribed to a public bug:

As discussed in bug 920757, the check-ins for all projects are gated
using CLA sign. It's not necessary to enforce an entry in AUTHORS file.
The file should be auto-generated when we package using "python setup.py
sdist" command. The .mailmap file, if exists, should be honored. This is
applicable for all projects, swift, keystone, nova and glance.

Once this is resolved, we could remove the test, test_authors.py that
check for an entry in AUTHORS file.

** Affects: openstack-common
 Importance: Undecided
 Assignee: Bhuvaneswaran A (bhuvan)
 Status: New

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Re: [Openstack-poc] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-03 Thread John Dickinson

On May 3, 2012, at 1:16 PM, Jay Pipes wrote:
> 
> The term "recommended" comes with a lot of baggage :) I don't want plugins to 
> be recommended or suggested -- at least by the community; companies should 
> feel free to recommend or suggest whatever they feel is best for their distro 
> or deployment. I just want a category called "OpenStack Extensions" (or 
> Plugins, depending on what the semantics-du-jour happen to be.

I agree with this, which is why I support option b

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[Openstack-poc] [Bug 983734] Re: Keystone fails badly if you miss one option

2012-05-03 Thread OpenStack Hudson
Fix proposed to branch: master
Review: https://review.openstack.org/7083

** Changed in: keystone
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

** Changed in: keystone
 Assignee: Yuriy Taraday (yorik-sar) => Mark McLoughlin (markmc)

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Title:
  Keystone fails badly if you miss one option

Status in OpenStack Identity (Keystone):
  In Progress
Status in openstack-common:
  Invalid

Bug description:
  If you misspell or forget one option in keystone.conf (like
  template_file  for TemplatedCatalog backend), Keystone will fail with
  misguiding critical failure (in my case, "TypeError: coercing to
  Unicode: need string or buffer, NoneType found").

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Re: [Openstack-poc] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-03 Thread Devin Carlen
+1, primarily by process of elimination.  The other options seem either too 
permissive or too strict.  I think our job is to provide a way for the 
ecosystem to develop and give people a place and category for these projects to 
live, but not to micromanage every piece of the ecosystem.

Devin

On May 2, 2012, at 9:50 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote:

> I'm a fan of c), where the "officialness" is tied to a committed organization 
> or team that is keeping the code up-to-date and tested. I'd also be a fan of 
> making that a per-release designation, with an easy renewal if the commitment 
> is still in place.
> 
> Generally, a smaller core with a "supported" status for satellite projects is 
> my favorite model, for much of OpenStack development.
> 
> --
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> 
> On Wednesday, May 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:
> 
>> We discussed the policy on third party apis this week at the PPB meeting. We 
>> decided to take it to the mailing list for discussion so we can get to some 
>> reasonable things to vote on in next weeks meeting.
>> 
>> tl; dr
>> 
>> How do third party apis fit in OpenStack?
>> 
>> Background
>> 
>> This was inspired by the current proposals for OCCI and CDMI into nova and 
>> swift and the upcoming work and proposals for CIMI for nova. The basic 
>> question is: does this code belong in the core repositories and if not, 
>> where does it go.  I see a number of groups with interest in this. I'm going 
>> to outline the major players and give my (biased) opinion on what they want
>> 
>> a) Core Developers: would prefer to have these apis outside of core. It is 
>> already a burden to maintain the existing apis, so separating these into 
>> separate projects would be beneficial.
>> 
>> b) Standards Bodies/Developers: would prefer to have some 
>> recognition/discoverability for the new apis, currently the only path 
>> forward is to be in core, so they are pushing to be included, but they might 
>> be ok with some other type of recognition.
>> 
>> c) Deployers/Distributors: want an easy way to know that these external 
>> plugins work well. This can be accomplished by testing/etc. Probably don't 
>> really care too much about the new apis unless they get specific customer 
>> requests
>> 
>> d) Users: some users (scientific community) would love to have access to 
>> these other apis.  From a user perspective, the more apis the better, as 
>> long as they are stable and all work.
>> 
>> Current Proposals
>> 
>> a) ppb doesn't care and the projects decide individually
>> 
>> b) third party apis are not part of openstack core, and we focus on building 
>> a strong ecosystem where these apis could exist as proxies or external 
>> plugins. It is up to deployers to decide which ecosystem projects to include 
>> in their distributions
>> 
>> c) just like b, but there is additionally a process by which these third 
>> party tools could become 'official' in some sense or be 'recommended' for 
>> inclusion by the distros.
>> 
>> d) third party standards are vetted for inclusion by the ppb and are added 
>> to core projects assuming they can pass certain testing requirements
>> 
>> e) we have our own api, so we shouldn't be encouraging 3rd party apis at 
>> all.  Tney are on their own.
>> 
>> f) ???
>> 
>> Please discuss,
>> Vish
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Re: [Openstack-poc] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-03 Thread Jay Pipes

On 05/03/2012 04:08 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:

Joshua McKenty wrote:

I'm a fan of c), where the "officialness" is tied to a committed
organization or team that is keeping the code up-to-date and tested. I'd
also be a fan of making that a per-release designation, with an easy
renewal if the commitment is still in place.

Generally, a smaller core with a "supported" status for satellite
projects is my favorite model, for much of OpenStack development.


I don't have very strong feelings on that subject. My gut feeling would
be to support (c), but I could be convinced by a strong argument why we
shouldn't.


I feel the same way. (c) sounds good, but I'm not married to it...


If that's the decision we end up taking, the PPB discussion quickly
shifts to defining the taxonomy of OpenStack projects. On this subject
and others that were raised at the Design Summit (like plug-ins),
Core/Incubated/Other doesn't really cut it anymore. In particular I'd
like to have at least one category for projects that are essential to
the OpenStack development community but should not be part of the
OpenStack core "product" (the IaaS stack of projects with a coordinated
release every 6 months).

Openstack-common, openstack-ci, or things we gate the core product on
(devstack, tempest) should never be part of OpenStack Core (or ever be
incubated to become core). However they are necessary for us to produce
OpenStack core, and require our collective attention and support. So
they need to be blessed in some kind of "official" category meaning they
are an central part of "OpenStack" as a development community. Maybe
"OpenStack Companion project"...


I don't necessarily view openstack-ci and openstack-common in the same 
vein. I think openstack-common actually should be part of core since it 
is an important dependency for so many of the core projects (and 
becoming more so...). Openstack-ci, tempest and devstack are also 
critical pieces, but they are support projects, not necessarily 
dependencies. So I would categorize them as "OpenStack Supporting 
Projects" or similar.



Another category could be necessary to describe external
projects/plug-ins that are continuously tested with OpenStack Core as
part of our integration testing and for which we therefore have a pretty
good idea of how well they work with OpenStack. Choosing the right term
is a bit more tricky here since most names are a bit overloaded. Maybe
"OpenStack recommended project/plugin"...


The term "recommended" comes with a lot of baggage :) I don't want 
plugins to be recommended or suggested -- at least by the community; 
companies should feel free to recommend or suggest whatever they feel is 
best for their distro or deployment. I just want a category called 
"OpenStack Extensions" (or Plugins, depending on what the 
semantics-du-jour happen to be.


Best,
-jay

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Re: [Openstack-poc] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-03 Thread Brian Waldon
I'd definitely go for option c here. I'm one of those Core Developers you 
mention that wants less code in the core repos. We also need to make sure the 
right people are maintaining that API code, which aren't necessarily the *-core 
teams.

On May 2, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Vishvananda Ishaya wrote:

> We discussed the policy on third party apis this week at the PPB meeting. We 
> decided to take it to the mailing list for discussion so we can get to some 
> reasonable things to vote on in next weeks meeting.
> 
> tl; dr
> 
> How do third party apis fit in OpenStack?
> 
> Background
> 
> This was inspired by the current proposals for OCCI and CDMI into nova and 
> swift and the upcoming work and proposals for CIMI for nova. The basic 
> question is: does this code belong in the core repositories and if not, where 
> does it go.  I see a number of groups with interest in this. I'm going to 
> outline the major players and give my (biased) opinion on what they want
> 
> a) Core Developers: would prefer to have these apis outside of core. It is 
> already a burden to maintain the existing apis, so separating these into 
> separate projects would be beneficial.
> 
> b) Standards Bodies/Developers: would prefer to have some 
> recognition/discoverability for the new apis, currently the only path forward 
> is to be in core, so they are pushing to be included, but they might be ok 
> with some other type of recognition.
> 
> c) Deployers/Distributors: want an easy way to know that these external 
> plugins work well. This can be accomplished by testing/etc. Probably don't 
> really care too much about the new apis unless they get specific customer 
> requests
> 
> d) Users: some users (scientific community) would love to have access to 
> these other apis.  From a user perspective, the more apis the better, as long 
> as they are stable and all work.
> 
> Current Proposals
> 
> a) ppb doesn't care and the projects decide individually
> 
> b) third party apis are not part of openstack core, and we focus on building 
> a strong ecosystem where these apis could exist as proxies or external 
> plugins. It is up to deployers to decide which ecosystem projects to include 
> in their distributions
> 
> c) just like b, but there is additionally a process by which these third 
> party tools could become 'official' in some sense or be 'recommended' for 
> inclusion by the distros.
> 
> d) third party standards are vetted for inclusion by the ppb and are added to 
> core projects assuming they can pass certain testing requirements
> 
> e) we have our own api, so we shouldn't be encouraging 3rd party apis at all. 
>  Tney are on their own.
> 
> f) ???
> 
> Please discuss,
> Vish
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Re: [Openstack-poc] 3rd Party APIs

2012-05-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
Joshua McKenty wrote:
> I'm a fan of c), where the "officialness" is tied to a committed
> organization or team that is keeping the code up-to-date and tested. I'd
> also be a fan of making that a per-release designation, with an easy
> renewal if the commitment is still in place.
> 
> Generally, a smaller core with a "supported" status for satellite
> projects is my favorite model, for much of OpenStack development.

I don't have very strong feelings on that subject. My gut feeling would
be to support (c), but I could be convinced by a strong argument why we
shouldn't.

If that's the decision we end up taking, the PPB discussion quickly
shifts to defining the taxonomy of OpenStack projects. On this subject
and others that were raised at the Design Summit (like plug-ins),
Core/Incubated/Other doesn't really cut it anymore. In particular I'd
like to have at least one category for projects that are essential to
the OpenStack development community but should not be part of the
OpenStack core "product" (the IaaS stack of projects with a coordinated
release every 6 months).

Openstack-common, openstack-ci, or things we gate the core product on
(devstack, tempest) should never be part of OpenStack Core (or ever be
incubated to become core). However they are necessary for us to produce
OpenStack core, and require our collective attention and support. So
they need to be blessed in some kind of "official" category meaning they
are an central part of "OpenStack" as a development community. Maybe
"OpenStack Companion project"...

Another category could be necessary to describe external
projects/plug-ins that are continuously tested with OpenStack Core as
part of our integration testing and for which we therefore have a pretty
good idea of how well they work with OpenStack. Choosing the right term
is a bit more tricky here since most names are a bit overloaded. Maybe
"OpenStack recommended project/plugin"...

Regards,

-- 
Thierry Carrez (ttx)
Release Manager, OpenStack

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