[opensuse] 64bit kernel and 32bit userland - Package Upgrades

2006-09-10 Thread Dag Stenstad
I have a 64bit XEN dom0, where I want to run a 32bit userland in a XEN
domU. I have booted a 32bit userland with a 64bit kernel, as a 64bit
dom0 seemingly only allows a 64bit kernel to be used. The 32bit userland
works quite well, I've not had any unexpected errors. However; When I
want to upgrade or install any software, YaST and friends seems to look
at my ARCH to select which packages to install. How can I override YaST
and friends magic?

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 03:58:14PM +0200, T. Lodewick wrote:
> Stefan Dirsch schrieb:
> 
> > I think we provide this for SLED10, but implemented it a long time
> > after 10.1 has been released and since it's unlikely that we'll have
> > KMPs for openSUSE 10.2 ...
> > 
> 
> wouldn't the "tiny-nvidia-installer"-script do mutch the same ? ( I
> didn't have used it so I can't say witch driver it will install witch
> way ...)

Not at all. It doesn't install any KMP package, which means that with
the next kernel update the NVIDIA driver will no longer work. BTW, the
driver update process with KMP packages has been invented to resolve
exactly this problem.

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread T. Lodewick
Stefan Dirsch schrieb:

> I think we provide this for SLED10, but implemented it a long time
> after 10.1 has been released and since it's unlikely that we'll have
> KMPs for openSUSE 10.2 ...
> 

wouldn't the "tiny-nvidia-installer"-script do mutch the same ? ( I
didn't have used it so I can't say witch driver it will install witch
way ...)

Thomy
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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 02:53:23PM +0200, T. Lodewick wrote:
> > Anyway, only installing the drivers for 10.1 isn't that hard.
> > 
> >   http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
> >   http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html
> > 
> > Hope this helps.
> 
> I think the point is not to find any working hints how to install the
> driver. I think some people like to have a popup during install that
> says "hi. I've found a nvidia[ati] card. do you like to use the open
> source driver from openSUSE or a driver directly loaded from the vendors
> website ?". and after making the choise the script will install the
> regarding driver.

I think we provide this for SLED10, but implemented it a long time
after 10.1 has been released and since it's unlikely that we'll have
KMPs for openSUSE 10.2 ...

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread T. Lodewick
Stefan Dirsch schrieb:

> Don't we talk about /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-xgl-settings, which is
> already in compiz package on (open)SUSE 10.1? 
> 

I don't know if we talk about that script, but I think its not a good
way to have "only that script" - for me for example there is no neet for
XGL + compiz. its more like a "nice to see feature", but it is in
conflict ( for me et last ) to run VMWare on my machine ( the graphic
speed isn't realy good after installing XGL + compiz ).
so, as people don't want to use XGL + compiz they will not get the
script. ( ok, I know that I can install compiz without XGL, but when I
should install compiz to use that script I also can install the driver
directly. however ... ).

> Anyway, only installing the drivers for 10.1 isn't that hard.
> 
>   http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
>   http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html
> 
> Hope this helps.

I think the point is not to find any working hints how to install the
driver. I think some people like to have a popup during install that
says "hi. I've found a nvidia[ati] card. do you like to use the open
source driver from openSUSE or a driver directly loaded from the vendors
website ?". and after making the choise the script will install the
regarding driver.


> 
> Best regards,
> Stefan
> 


also best regards from Berlin,
JBScout aka Thomy
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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 10:51:30AM +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:
> Søndag 10 september 2006 10:39 skrev HG:
> > > Why should we? The script downloads the driver from Nvidias or ATI's
> > > site, that's a totally different thing.
> >
> > Why can't OpenSUSE then have the same script? Whould that be easy
> > enough to get the drivers?
> 
> I guess the script can only be used, provided Nvidia and ATi host KMPs for 
> the 
> relevant SUSE kernel.

Which works (by accident) for SUSE 10.1, since SLE10/10.1 use the same
(kernel) code base.

> As I understand it is doubtful that ATi and Nvidia will provide KMPs for 
> openSUSE 10.2 kernel(s). 

Correct.

> I hope the last word hasn't been spoken on that matter. 

I do hope so as well ...

> It's really a feature 
> that can help move a lot of people to Linux.. especially the ATi-owners. And 
> also a feature that could set openSUSE a part from other distros. Has 
> potential to be a killer feature.

Of course.

Stefan

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread Stefan Dirsch
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 11:39:54AM +0300, HG wrote:
> On 9/8/06, Philipp Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:59:16 -0400, Marcel Mourguiart wrote:
> >
> >>i have to add, that SLED 10, have a botton in the desktop to install XGL,
> >>this script also install nvidia or ati propietary drivers if is it 
> >necesary,
> >>i'm sure is a mistake and you are going to elimate this script or fase the
> >>legal consequences.
> >
> >Why should we? The script downloads the driver from Nvidias or ATI's
> >site, that's a totally different thing.
> 
> Why can't OpenSUSE then have the same script? Whould that be easy
> enough to get the drivers?

Don't we talk about /opt/gnome/bin/gnome-xgl-settings, which is
already in compiz package on (open)SUSE 10.1? 

Anyway, only installing the drivers for 10.1 isn't that hard.

  http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/nvidia-installer-HOWTO.html
  http://www.suse.de/~sndirsch/ati-installer-HOWTO.html

Hope this helps.

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Stefan

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread Martin Schlander
Søndag 10 september 2006 10:39 skrev HG:
> > Why should we? The script downloads the driver from Nvidias or ATI's
> > site, that's a totally different thing.
>
> Why can't OpenSUSE then have the same script? Whould that be easy
> enough to get the drivers?

I guess the script can only be used, provided Nvidia and ATi host KMPs for the 
relevant SUSE kernel.

As I understand it is doubtful that ATi and Nvidia will provide KMPs for 
openSUSE 10.2 kernel(s). 

I hope the last word hasn't been spoken on that matter. It's really a feature 
that can help move a lot of people to Linux.. especially the ATi-owners. And 
also a feature that could set openSUSE a part from other distros. Has 
potential to be a killer feature.

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Re: [opensuse] Fw: Driver Repository for openSUSE / SuSE Linux Enterprise (nVidia)

2006-09-10 Thread HG

Hi!

First of all, I'm sorry, if this has allready been addressed or that I
have missed something in this long thread.

On 9/8/06, Philipp Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006 10:59:16 -0400, Marcel Mourguiart wrote:

>i have to add, that SLED 10, have a botton in the desktop to install XGL,
>this script also install nvidia or ati propietary drivers if is it necesary,
>i'm sure is a mistake and you are going to elimate this script or fase the
>legal consequences.

Why should we? The script downloads the driver from Nvidias or ATI's
site, that's a totally different thing.


Why can't OpenSUSE then have the same script? Whould that be easy
enough to get the drivers?

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