Re: [opensuse] Postage Stamps.........IE

[jdd]

Mike McMullin a écrit :

On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 16:35 -0500, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:

http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page

This installed IE flawlessly



  But does IE run decently?


even install an icon on the desktop. impressive

jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 16 December 2006 21:51, Andre Truter wrote:
> On 12/16/06, Hans du Plooy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michal Hlavac wrote:
> > > hello,
> > >
> > > has anybody working suspend to ram on HP nx6125 notebook???
> >
> > I have suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disc working pretty fine on my
> > nx6125 under 10.1.
> >
> > It's the resume-from-ram and resume-from-disc that won't work :-)
>
> After upgrading to OpenSUSE 10.2, my suspend-to-disk (hibernate) and
> resume-from-disk works on my nx6125!
>
> Suspend-to-Ram still seems to be a problem, it screws up the screen
> and after a while just pops back to the screen locked state.

I have seen the same thing.  After resume, I often don't have and screen 
image at all. Its black.  No back light.  But the system is running. If I 
ctrl-alt-F2 to a shell, (its still black) and log in blind, and carefully type
init 3, the screen lights up again.  Init 5 and I can log in again. 

But of course I would have lost any unsaved work, so the usefulness of
suspend to ram is largely lost.

(My hardware vendor (dell) has a bios upgrade that is supposed
to fix this but I have not applied that yet) .

I've had mixed luck with suspend to ram over the years.  Even on Windows.

I've had both suspend to disk and suspend to ram working in SUSE since 9.3
but suspend to ram will often corrupt things and cause them to fail in
strange ways.  I always save my work when I am about to attempt
either.  

Suspend to disk almost always works, except when on 
wireless, where I have to either shut down the wireless (jerk out the
card or power the wireless transmitter off) before I suspend.  If I 
don't I have to do it after I resume.  I'm sure there is a Correct way
to handle this, but this way seems quicker.

I have found that Kubuntu did no better in this regard.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 16 December 2006 22:09, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 00:00, ByteEnable wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, I deleted the /etc/adjtime file, played with hwclock, played with
> > ntp, etc.  Its just no workie.  .
> >
> > Byte
>
> Stop ntpd, delete that file *and* /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift, then:
>
> grep USER_HZ /usr/src/linux/include/asm/param.h
> adjtimex -p
>
> In the latter, the value of "tick" should be 1 million/USER_HZ. If not,
> then run:
> adjtimex -t  -f 0 -o 0
>
> with  equal to that value. Now running "adjtimex -p" again should
> show that "tick" has that value, while the values of "offset" and
> "frequency" are zero.
>
> The system clock will now be running in an uncorrected, "raw", state.
> Use "hwclock --hctosys" to bring the system clock into agreement with
> the hardware clock.
>
> Now run "adjtimex -c" to determine any discrepancy between the rates of
> the system and hardware clocks. Comparisons are 10 seconds apart, and
> after the first two, adjtimex will suggest values of "tick" and
> "frequency" that will keep the two clocks at the same rate.
>
> Also use "adjtimex -h " at least twice, over a period of at
> least a couple of hours (the longer the better). Do not reboot the
> system, do not run the ntp daemon, and do not set any time variables in
> either system or hardware clocks, during this time to ensure accurate
> calculations. If /var/log/clocks.log exists, delete it before the first
> run. Starting with the second run, adjtimex will calculate errors in the
> frequency, in ppm, for each of the system and hardware clocks.
>
> It's probably a good idea to let us have a look at the results of all
> this at this point.
>


Darryl:
If anything cried out for a wiki page on opensuse this is it. 
Won't you please consider it?




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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Anders Norrbring]

ByteEnable wrote:

On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 22:13 -0700, Tom Patton wrote:

On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 21:09 -0600, ByteEnable wrote:


My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to display
the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in the
kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.

Byte


Then I have to ask again, have you deleted the /etc/adjtime file?  My
understanding is that sets the correction factor for the kernel "system
clock".  Get it to run correctly before you start messing with NTPD,
IMO.

Tom




Yeah, I deleted the /etc/adjtime file, played with hwclock, played with
ntp, etc.  Its just no workie.  .



Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested initially?

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[opensuse] building devel rpms

[eddieleprince]

I have a source tar gz file and I need a devel version of the package.  Is it 
possible to produce one from the source file?  I would be grateful if someone 
could explain how to do so or direct me to relevant documentation.

Thanks

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Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Truter wrote:
> After upgrading to OpenSUSE 10.2, my suspend-to-disk (hibernate) and
> resume-from-disk works on my nx6125!

That's it, I'm starting the download!

> Suspend-to-Ram still seems to be a problem, it screws up the screen
> and after a while just pops back to the screen locked state.
That's a pity, but at least we're getting closer.

Hans
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Re: [opensuse] building devel rpms

[John Andersen]

On Saturday 16 December 2006 23:56, eddieleprince wrote:
> I have a source tar gz file and I need a devel version of the package.  Is
> it possible to produce one from the source file?  I would be grateful if
> someone could explain how to do so or direct me to relevant documentation.
>
> Thanks
>
> Eddie

You probably need a development version of several packages if you are
going to compile from a tarball.  You likely can NOT build such from wha you
have.

Get into yast and install ALL the prerequisites.  For some non-standard
sorts of things you have to google up the development packages if you can't
find them either on your install media or on the opensuse mirrors/

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Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2

[Hans du Plooy]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 10:59 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Truter wrote:
> > After upgrading to OpenSUSE 10.2, my suspend-to-disk (hibernate) and
> > resume-from-disk works on my nx6125!
> 
> That's it, I'm starting the download!

Does the OpenSUSE 10.2 DVD image include the first five discs or all
six?

Thanks
Hans
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[ByteEnable]

On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:09, ByteEnable wrote:
> > My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
> > computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to display
> > the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in the
> > kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.
> 
> Remind me again what kind of processor you have?
> Don't know if you mentioned it or I just forgot.
> 

Pentium 4 @ 3ghZ, i915 chipset.

Byte

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:05, ByteEnable wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:09, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
> > > computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to display
> > > the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in the
> > > kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.
> >
> > Remind me again what kind of processor you have?
> > Don't know if you mentioned it or I just forgot.
>
> Pentium 4 @ 3ghZ, i915 chipset.

Pentium can cover a lot of territory.  Is it a 32bit 
machine or 64?  Does it appear as a single processor
or two?

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Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 00:14, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 10:59 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 08:51 +0200, Andre Truter wrote:
> > > After upgrading to OpenSUSE 10.2, my suspend-to-disk (hibernate) and
> > > resume-from-disk works on my nx6125!
> >
> > That's it, I'm starting the download!
>
> Does the OpenSUSE 10.2 DVD image include the first five discs or all
> six?

All 6, from what I gather from the footnote on that opensuse page.

Usually I use ktorrent to fetch them, but yesterday I just used http
(kget) and I had it in an hour.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[ByteEnable]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 01:09 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 00:00, ByteEnable wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, I deleted the /etc/adjtime file, played with hwclock, played with
> > ntp, etc.  Its just no workie.  .
> >
> > Byte
> >
> >   
> Stop ntpd, delete that file *and* /var/lib/ntp/drift/ntp.drift, then:
> 
> grep USER_HZ /usr/src/linux/include/asm/param.h

param.h:# define USER_HZ100 /* .. some user
interfaces are in "ticks" */

> adjtimex -p
 mode: 0
   offset: 0
frequency: 0
 maxerror: 16384000
 esterror: 16384000
   status: 65
time_constant: 6
precision: 1
tolerance: 33554432
 tick: 1
 raw time:  1166350769s 215998us = 1166350769.215998
 return value = 5
> 
> In the latter, the value of "tick" should be 1 million/USER_HZ. If not,
> then run:
> adjtimex -t  -f 0 -o 0
> 
> with  equal to that value. Now running "adjtimex -p" again should
> show that "tick" has that value, while the values of "offset" and
> "frequency" are zero.
> 
> The system clock will now be running in an uncorrected, "raw", state.
> Use "hwclock --hctosys" to bring the system clock into agreement with
> the hardware clock.
> 
> Now run "adjtimex -c" to determine any discrepancy between the rates of
> the system and hardware clocks. Comparisons are 10 seconds apart, and
> after the first two, adjtimex will suggest values of "tick" and
> "frequency" that will keep the two clocks at the same rate.

  --- current ---   -- suggested --
cmos time system-cmos  error_ppm   tick  freqtick  freq
1166348614 1.782604
1166348622 3.565470   178286.6  1 0
1166348630 5.348385   178291.5  1 08217556300
1166348638 7.131298   178291.3  1 08217570362
1166348646 8.914216   178291.8  1 08217537550
116634865410.697123   178290.7  1 08217609425
116634866212.480035   178291.2  1 08217576612
116634867014.262944   178290.9  1 08217596925

> 
> Also use "adjtimex -h " at least twice, over a period of at

The estimated error in the cmos clock is 0.710913 +- 0.14 ppm

> least a couple of hours (the longer the better). Do not reboot the
> system, do not run the ntp daemon, and do not set any time variables in
> either system or hardware clocks, during this time to ensure accurate
> calculations. If /var/log/clocks.log exists, delete it before the first
> run. Starting with the second run, adjtimex will calculate errors in the
> frequency, in ppm, for each of the system and hardware clocks.
> 
> It's probably a good idea to let us have a look at the results of all
> this at this point.
> 
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[ByteEnable]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 00:24 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:05, ByteEnable wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > > On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:09, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > > My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
> > > > computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to display
> > > > the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in the
> > > > kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.
> > >
> > > Remind me again what kind of processor you have?
> > > Don't know if you mentioned it or I just forgot.
> >
> > Pentium 4 @ 3ghZ, i915 chipset.
> 
> Pentium can cover a lot of territory.  Is it a 32bit 
> machine or 64?  Does it appear as a single processor
> or two?
> 

Its a Pentium 4 @ 3.00ghZ/800mhZ with Hyperthreading (HT) 32-bit running
on the i915 32-bit chipset.

Byte

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Re: [opensuse] Postage Stamps.........IE

[Michael S. Dunsavage]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 09:27 +0100, jdd wrote:
> Mike McMullin a écrit :
> > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 16:35 -0500, Michael S. Dunsavage wrote:
> >> http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
> >>
> >> This installed IE flawlessly
> > 
> > 
> >   But does IE run decently?
> > 
> even install an icon on the desktop. impressive
> 
> jdd
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Fires up rather fast too

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 00:58, ByteEnable wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 00:24 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:05, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > > > On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:09, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > > > My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
> > > > > computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to
> > > > > display the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in
> > > > > the kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.
> > > >
> > > > Remind me again what kind of processor you have?
> > > > Don't know if you mentioned it or I just forgot.
> > >
> > > Pentium 4 @ 3ghZ, i915 chipset.
> >
> > Pentium can cover a lot of territory.  Is it a 32bit
> > machine or 64?  Does it appear as a single processor
> > or two?
>
> Its a Pentium 4 @ 3.00ghZ/800mhZ with Hyperthreading (HT) 32-bit running
> on the i915 32-bit chipset.
>
> Byte

If Darryl Gregorash's instructions don't solve it, try going into your
bios and turning hyperthreading off for an hour to see if it still
drifts.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[ByteEnable]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 00:46 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 00:58, ByteEnable wrote:
> > On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 00:24 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > > On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:05, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 20:55 -0900, John Andersen wrote:
> > > > > On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:09, ByteEnable wrote:
> > > > > > My hardware clock, the actual RTC is keeping rock solid time.  My
> > > > > > computer has a clock on the front panel, that uses the RTC to
> > > > > > display the time.  That output is perfect.  Its only the time in
> > > > > > the kernel/OpenSUSE that is inaccurate and running way too fast.
> > > > >
> > > > > Remind me again what kind of processor you have?
> > > > > Don't know if you mentioned it or I just forgot.
> > > >
> > > > Pentium 4 @ 3ghZ, i915 chipset.
> > >
> > > Pentium can cover a lot of territory.  Is it a 32bit
> > > machine or 64?  Does it appear as a single processor
> > > or two?
> >
> > Its a Pentium 4 @ 3.00ghZ/800mhZ with Hyperthreading (HT) 32-bit running
> > on the i915 32-bit chipset.
> >
> > Byte
> 
> If Darryl Gregorash's instructions don't solve it, try going into your
> bios and turning hyperthreading off for an hour to see if it still
> drifts.
> 
> 

What will that accomplish?  Do you think this is a SMP issue? scheduler?
semaphore? spin-lock? what?

Byte

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Re: [opensuse] article about Midnight Commander

[Günther J. Niederwimmer]

Hello,

Someone knows the reason, why ( [ ] case Sensitive ) in SUSE's (9.1 or 9.3 ?) 
mc  any longer is in function ?
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:06, ByteEnable wrote:

> What will that accomplish?  Do you think this is a SMP issue? scheduler?
> semaphore? spin-lock? what?
>
> Byte

Don't know for sure, but there have been more than a few smp problems 
of late.  

I have a big issue with x86_64 keyboard character duplication which 
totally goes away If I set my bios to only show one cpu, OR if I lock
the X process to a single cpu with taskset.  

Its an easy way to rule an smp issue out (or in).

It would be worth a try, especially if this never happened before on 
the same hardware, or if it does not currently happen with a live cd
from say, Kubuntu or Knoppix or some other distro.

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[opensuse] K3b and mp3

[Stelian Iancu]

Hello all,

When I start k3b, it "greets" me with the following message:

Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found.
K3b could not load or find the Mp3 decoder plugin. This means that you will 
not be able to create Audio CDs from Mp3 files. Many Linux distributions do 
not include Mp3 support for legal reasons.
Solution: To enable Mp3 support, please install the MAD Mp3 decoding library 
as well as the K3b MAD Mp3 decoder plugin (the latter may already be 
installed but not functional due to the missing libmad). Some distributions 
allow installation of Mp3 support via an online update tool (i.e. SuSE's 
YOU).

I understand that it needs some k3b-mad package, but I couldn't find it 
anywhere. I have packman and guru, as well as the non-oss repositories. And 
I've installed everything related to mad: 

thor:~ # rpm -q mad
mad-0.15.1b-1.pm.3

thor:~ # rpm -ql mad
/usr/lib/libmad.so.0
/usr/lib/libmad.so.0.2.1
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/CHANGES
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/COPYING
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/COPYRIGHT
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/CREDITS
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/README
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/TODO
/usr/share/doc/packages/mad/VERSION

So what can be the problem here and how can I solve it?

Many thanks and regards!
Stelian

PS. Congratulations to everybody involved in making openSUSE 10.2! It has 
been, so far, perfect for me! (well, with this small exception :-).
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Re: [opensuse] K3b and mp3

[John Andersen]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:04, Stelian Iancu wrote:
> I understand that it needs some k3b-mad package, but I couldn't find it
> anywhere. I have packman and guru, as well as the non-oss repositories. And
> I've installed everything related to mad:

Install k3b from packman and it will all be good.

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Re: [opensuse] K3b and mp3

[Stelian Iancu]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 11:06, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:04, Stelian Iancu wrote:
> > I understand that it needs some k3b-mad package, but I couldn't find it
> > anywhere. I have packman and guru, as well as the non-oss repositories.
> > And I've installed everything related to mad:
>
> Install k3b from packman and it will all be good.

Thanks John! That indeed solved this problem.

However, now I get the following message:

cdrdao will be run without root privileges
It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root privileges to 
increase the overall stability of the burning process.
Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem.

(As far as I understand from this, it works just well the way it is now, just 
that it is recommended to setuid cdrdao). 

So I press on the "Start K3bSetup2" button and nothing happens. Trying to 
run /opt/kde3/bin/k3bsetup as root from the konsole gives me the following:

thor:~ # /opt/kde3/bin/k3bsetup
_IceTransOpen: Unable to Parse address @?  !
Session management error: Could not open network socket
_IceTransOpen: Unable to Parse address @?  !
Session management error: Could not open network socket
kbuildsycoca running...
kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'k3bsetup2'.

Obviously it cannot find this k3bsetup2 "module". What kind of a module is 
this and where can I then find it?

Br,
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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Stevens wrote:
> I have been following this thread and have seen several responders go 
> off on tangents, proposing solutions that have little bearing on the 
> problem as listed. 
> 
> The way I understood the original problem is that the OS clock routine 
> in the installation in question is beserk. Nuts. Spastic. On speed. Or 
> any other term you want to lay on it. It's like the wall clock with the 
> hands spinning really fast in spite of having a motor that is supposed 
> to be synchronous with the input ac frequency, and the OS clock 
> correction software pukes when trying to correct it. 
> 
> The solution is to determine how the system clock actually works and 
> then determine what is so special about his particular installation 
> that would cause the problem. Obviously it only happens with a few 
> systems or we would all be bitching about it. So what is so different 
> about his? It does seem to be an interesting puzzle.
> 
> Fred
> 

Finally someone "other than possibly Anders Norrbring with his
"clock=pit" suggestion" with some sense.

A dmesg output from the OP might shed some light.

Mark
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Re: [opensuse] Automount DVD fails

[Icos Lau III]

Tks for hints Joseph,

but i think the problem is other, see my test.

On SuSE 10.1 the /etc/fstab not contain these lines you tell me, and the
process of automount works pretty good. If i add these lines in 10.2 the
problem is resolved at the time, but how you explain, the umount command
is necessary.

These way is not a best way, but works. Ok, but i remove these lines and
test one thing.

I insert a data CD into DVD drive, nothing has on fstab and 10.2
automount works fine. If i insert a data DVD the automount not work.

In my opinion the problem is not a mount point, but anything on the
filesystem of data DVD and the automount process, but i dont have ideia
where is that problem. The filesystem of data DVD its fine for any
distribuition other than openSUSE 10.2.

Tks for your time, if you can tell me more hints

In time, the video DVD, like a movie (sorry for my english) is works
pretty fine, only data DVD not automount.

Secco.  

Em Sáb, 2006-12-16 às 23:00 -0800, Joseph Loo escreveu:
> Icos Lau III wrote:
> > Hy,
> > 
> > I try setup many diferents ways to automount my data DVDs on openSUSE
> > 10.2, but nothing works.
> > 
> > The mount from konsole works fine, but the automount only work for cdrom
> > drive.
> > 
> > I read many articles for these problem, somebody tell me install ivman,
> > others describe change the udev, but is look fine. In SuSE 10.1, the
> > automount of DVDs works pretty good, but on 10.2 i dont understand the
> > reason for not working.
> > 
> > Also, i try change KDE > Desktop Settings > Periphals, but dont work
> > too.
> > 
> > If somebody help me...
> > 
> > Tks
> > 
> I have the same problem that you have. It will not mount a dvd but works
> perfectly with a cdrom. I suspect, that the program that is used to
> create the mount point is failing to create the directory name in
> /media. I have found that his works after some software burning.
> 
> Too make a long story short, I have found that the following works:
> 1. determine the device name name of your drive. You can do this by
> inserting a cdrom and execute the following command
>   more /proc/mounts
> This will list the /device, generally it will be something like
> /dev/hdc, where it is the second chain of ide, master (slave would be
> /dev/hdd). Make sure you remove your cdrom
> 2. edit your /etc/fstab. Add something like this in it:
>   /dev/dvd /mnt/dvd   auto  user,noauto,ro,exec 0 0
> 3. create a subdirectory , e.g.,
>   mkdir -p /mnt/dvd
> 4. insert your dvd
> 5. ls /mnt/dvd This should display your dvd files. It seems the program
> will automatically mount the dvd.
> 
> You will need to umount the drive afer using it.
> 
> 
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Re: [opensuse] Zen updater

[Pete Connolly]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 07:31, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> OkI lost it and am too tired to continue looking tonight. Someone
> posted in the past couple of days, a web site that has all the data needed
> to setup Zen correctly to update from various repositories.like get a
> list auto. Could that kind soul please post that address again?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Fred
>
> Doing upgrades from 10.1 to 10.2 on desktops
>

Was it this list that I sent that you are thinking of?  Hopefully...

Cheers

Pete

talshiar:/home/peter # smart channel --show
[rpm-sys]
type = rpm-sys
name = RPM System

[Opensuse mirror]
type = yast2
name = opensuse_mirror
baseurl = http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/

[guru]
type = yast2
name = Guru 3rd party package repository
baseurl = http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/rpm/10.2

[X11:XGL]
type = rpm-md
name = Repository for Xgl and related packages that give your Desktop some 
bling (openSUSE_10.2)
baseurl = http://software.opensuse.org/download/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.2/

[Mirror non-oss]
type = yast2
name = mirror-non-oss
baseurl = 
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss/

[packman]
type = rpm-md
name = packman
baseurl = ftp://packman.links2linux.org/pub/packman/suse/10.2/

[smart]
type = rpm-md
name = Guru smart repository
priority = 10
baseurl = http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-guru/smart/repo/10.2

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 03:51, ByteEnable wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 01:09 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>   
>> adjtimex -p
>> 
>  mode: 0
>offset: 0
> frequency: 0
>  maxerror: 16384000
>  esterror: 16384000
>status: 65
> time_constant: 6
>   
I don't know if this will change anything else, but all I've read says
that this value is too high for a free-running system clock. You may try
"adjtimex -T 0" followed by "adjtimex -c" again, to see if it brings the
system clock within reason. I don't expect it to, but I really don't
know very much about the internal workings of the sys clock.

Everything else is quite OK here.
>   --- current ---   -- suggested --
> cmos time system-cmos  error_ppm   tick  freqtick  freq
> 1166348614 1.782604
> 1166348622 3.565470   178286.6  1 0
>   
Just so there is no confusion here, without the "-i" parameter, these
measurements are taken every 10 seconds of system time, and the error is
calculated accordingly. Thus: error = (3.56547 - 1.782604)/10 =
0.1782866, or 178268.8 ppm
>> Also use "adjtimex -h " at least twice, over a period of at
>> 
>
> The estimated error in the cmos clock is 0.710913 +- 0.14 ppm
>   
This is very good, one of the best hardware clocks I've ever seen.
However, it does make me wonder if you are running an over-clocked system.


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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>
>
> Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
> initially?
>
What exactly does that do, Anders?

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Re: [opensuse] Google Earth and OpenSuse 10.2

[Rajko M.]

On Saturday 16 December 2006 23:40, Scott Jones wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:43, Rajko M. wrote:
...
> > It is with it's own Wine.
>
> Nope, it's a Linux-native QT-based application.
> Try "ldd /opt/google-earth/googleearth-bin".  Not a single mention of
> either Wine or libwine.

Something new. 

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>>
>> Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
>> initially?
>>
> What exactly does that do, Anders?
> 

This is just manually overriding the automatic time source selection.
You're using the PIT (programmable interval timer) over what was being
automatically selected by tour kernel. If we had a dmesg output of your
boot messages we might be able to tell what was going on with your time
source.

Mark
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 03:57, John Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 01:06, ByteEnable wrote:
>
>   
>> What will that accomplish?  Do you think this is a SMP issue? scheduler?
>> semaphore? spin-lock? what?
>>
>> Byte
>> 
>
> Don't know for sure, but there have been more than a few smp problems 
> of late.  
>
> I have a big issue with x86_64 keyboard character duplication which 
> totally goes away If I set my bios to only show one cpu, OR if I lock
> the X process to a single cpu with taskset.  
>
> Its an easy way to rule an smp issue out (or in).
>
> It would be worth a try, especially if this never happened before on 
> the same hardware, or if it does not currently happen with a live cd
> from say, Kubuntu or Knoppix or some other distro.
>
>   
And on that note, I think it would be instructive to know what
configurations do have this clock problem. What would be needed?
Certainly CPU and kernel version, hyperthreading on/off, what else?

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Re: [opensuse] Suspend to ram with HP nx6125 on Suse 10.2

[Leendert Meyer]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 09:42, John Andersen wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 21:51, Andre Truter wrote:
> > On 12/16/06, Hans du Plooy
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 00:27 +0100, Michal Hlavac wrote:
> > > > hello,
> > > >
> > > > has anybody working suspend to ram on HP nx6125 notebook???
> > >
> > > I have suspend-to-ram and suspend-to-disc working pretty fine
> > > on my nx6125 under 10.1.
> > >
> > > It's the resume-from-ram and resume-from-disc that won't work
> > > :-)
> >
> > After upgrading to OpenSUSE 10.2, my suspend-to-disk (hibernate)
> > and resume-from-disk works on my nx6125!
> >
> > Suspend-to-Ram still seems to be a problem, it screws up the
> > screen and after a while just pops back to the screen locked
> > state.
>
> I have seen the same thing.  After resume, I often don't have and
> screen image at all. Its black.  No back light.  But the system is
> running. If I ctrl-alt-F2 to a shell, (its still black) and log in
> blind, and carefully type init 3, the screen lights up again. 
> Init 5 and I can log in again.

You both might want to try the suggestions on

  http://en.opensuse.org/S2ram

Cheers,

Leen
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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Mark Hounschell wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>> On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>>> Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
>>> initially?
>>>
>> What exactly does that do, Anders?
>>
> 
> This is just manually overriding the automatic time source selection.
> You're using the PIT (programmable interval timer) over what was being
> automatically selected by tour kernel. If we had a dmesg output of your
> boot messages we might be able to tell what was going on with your time
> source.
> 
> Mark

more from kernel-parameters.txt:

clock=  [BUGS=IA-32, HW] gettimeofday clocksource override.
[Deprecated] Forces specified clocksource (if avaliable) to be

 used when calculating gettimeofday(). If specified
 clocksource is not avalible, it defaults to PIT.
 Format: { pit | tsc | cyclone | pmtmr }

Mark

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[jdd]

Darryl Gregorash a écrit :

On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:


Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
initially?


What exactly does that do, Anders?


http://lkml.org/lkml/2004/3/26/222

may be of interest
jdd

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 04:48, Mark Hounschell wrote:
> A dmesg output from the OP might shed some light.
That won't help at all, since nothing related to the clocks is logged to
the system log (the default xntp configuration is logging to /var/log/ntp).

The only clues available are from reading the kernel time variables
directly (adjtimex, or ntpdc if ntpd is running), and from comparing the
hardware of systems that are having the problem.

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Re: [opensuse] New cd/dvd recording software

[Jan Engelhardt]

>> Have you perchance had an opportunity to use k3b with the new burning 
>> software included with 10.2? 
>Yes
>>  Wodim is the program being used now 
>> instead of cdrecord.  
>
>It is written by the same author, and it provides the same, i.e.
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> rpm -q --provides wodim
>cdrecord
>wodim = 1.0pre5cvs-6

Works just as "few" as the regular cdrecord SUSE packaged. IOW, it still 
does not support DVD+R/DL and profile naming.

# cdrecord -dev=/dev/hdb -dao -v /proc/kcore
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: 0x0011
Profile: 0x0012 
Profile: 0x0011 (current)
Profile: 0x0014 
Profile: 0x0013 
Profile: 0x001A 
Profile: 0x001B 
Profile: 0x002B 
Profile: 0x0010 
Profile: 0x0009 
Profile: 0x000A 
Profile: 0x0008 
Profile: 0x0002 
wodim: Found DVD media: using cdr_mdvd.
Using Session At Once (SAO) for DVD mode.
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd).

# cdrecord_PDVD -dev=/dev/hdb -dao -v /proc/kcore
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
Current: DVD-R sequential recording
Profile: DVD-RAM 
Profile: DVD-R sequential recording (current)
Profile: DVD-RW sequential overwrite 
Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite 
Profile: DVD+RW 
Profile: DVD+R 
Profile: DVD+R/DL 
Profile: DVD-ROM 
Profile: CD-R 
Profile: CD-RW 
Profile: CD-ROM 
Profile: Removable Disk 
Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 


Plus I've got no idea why wodim uses mmc_mdvd (it's not even documented 
- screw that!)


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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Jan Engelhardt]

>Hi there,
>
>I just sent one email in spanish to that guy... let's see what happens.
>
>My guess: he's sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and thought that "e" stands for 
>"español" (spanish)...

Talk about intelligence.


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Re: [opensuse] article about Midnight Commander

[Rajko M.]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 03:48, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Someone knows the reason, why ( [ ] case Sensitive ) in SUSE's (9.1 or 9.3
> ?) mc  any longer is in function ?
> --
> mit freundlichen Grüßen / best Regards,
>

Hi Günther,

[ ] case Sensitive in what menu? 
I have it in search (openSUSE 10.2) if document is open for edit (F4)
If it is open for viewing (F3) there is only: 
"Enter search string:
│  │
 [ ] Backwards   
 [< OK >]   [ Cancel ]"

I can't recall that was different before. 

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

> Of course it is, but not much of any significance gets logged --
> apparently just a line or two to say what source is being used. How is
> that helpful, unless all you're interested in doing is changing which
> timesource is used? ntpd logs more meaningful stuff into the syslog than
> what I find in boot.msg.
> 
> duh
> 

No NTP messages are going to tell you why your clock source is not
letting you keep reasonably accurate time. Don't you think a machine
without NTP can keep time? NTP has nothing to do with this problem. It
is only been suggested as a possible mask of the problem.

Mark
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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Carlos E. R.]

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> Will someone who speaks Spanish please write to this outfit and tell them that
> we don't speak that language here, and the messages are getting 
> annoying.Thanx.

I did already some days ago, no answer. Check the thread where I was 
searching for the list owner, explanations there.

It is an autoresponder from inside outlook, by the way.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 06:31, Mark Hounschell wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>   
>> On 2006-12-17 04:48, Mark Hounschell wrote:
>> 
>>> A dmesg output from the OP might shed some light.
>>>   
>> That won't help at all, since nothing related to the clocks is logged to
>> the system log (the default xntp configuration is logging to /var/log/ntp).
>>
>> The only clues available are from reading the kernel time variables
>> directly (adjtimex, or ntpdc if ntpd is running), and from comparing the
>> hardware of systems that are having the problem.
>>
>> 
>
>
> dmesg | grep clock
> Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
>   
dmesg|grep clock


All those dropped SYN packets since the last reboot may have a lot to do
with that, but "grep clock /var/log/boot.msg" also shows nada -- whereas
I do have this:
<6>Using pmtmr for high-res timesource

and nothing else related to the clock.

> All the clock source stuff is in kernel not ntp
Of course it is, but not much of any significance gets logged --
apparently just a line or two to say what source is being used. How is
that helpful, unless all you're interested in doing is changing which
timesource is used? ntpd logs more meaningful stuff into the syslog than
what I find in boot.msg.

duh

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Joe Morris (NTM)]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>   
>> Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
>> initially?
> What exactly does that do, Anders?
I don't know if it is related, but there is this note in the Release
notes, "Booting Systems with HPET Timer Problems
On some NVIDIA nForce 5 motherboards (in particular from ASUS) or others
that do not support a HPET timer, proper booting might require the
acpi_use_timer_override kernel option at the boot prompt."  I realize
this is not the same chipset, but trying the boot parameter shouldn't
take too long to see if it affects the problem.

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Re: [opensuse] CN=Kevin Gassiot/OU=HOU/OU=VES/O=VDGC is out of the office.

[Jan Engelhardt]

>> I will be out of the office starting  12/16/2006 and will not return until
>> 01/02/2007.
>> 
>> I will reply to your message when I return.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>>   Kev in
>
>  Why does this make we want to send the guy a reply directly?

Reminds me of http://bash.org/?4281


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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

When everything is working right all you will see is a message
indicating what clocksource is installed. It's when the kernel thinks
there is a problem with one or more of the clock sources it will spit
out meaningful info.

Mark
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Re: [opensuse] Postage Stamps.........IE

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 19:27 -0600, Stevens wrote:
> From "Michael S. Dunsavage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > Some sites do require IE still.
> 
> Because they require the ability to load and run Active-X controls, 
> which is why, even with a Windows machine, Firefox won't work with 
> those apps. Nor will Exploder run those apps on a Linux box for the 
> same reason: no Active-X.
> 
> Screw stamps.com and their business model. I poked around their site and 
> determined that the giant hassle of doing business with them plus their 
> recurring monthly fee will never make it worth my while to stop buying 
> stamps at the post office. YMMV

And you actually don't need to go to the PO to purchase, just go to the
web site, order the stamps and the postal carrier will deliver them to
your home at no extra cost.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE 10.2 Installation hangs

[Bruno]

> The promise is disabled in the BIOS, but I don't think this makes a
> difference.  Before using brokenmodules=sata_promise, I tried to install
> with the promise disabled, but the kernel detects it anyway and tries to
> load the driver, which then breaks the install.
>
> My mainboard is the K8T800 Neo2, MSI model 6702E, which has two sata
> controllers, the Promise and one in the via8237 southbridge.  Since I don't
> have any disks attached to the promise, I could use
> brokenmodules=sata_promise, then install onto sda/sdb, which are on the
> other sata controller.

Thank you very much for your help, I managed to get openSUSE 10.2 installed on 
my system. Sad thing is, while I coud run suse 10.1 with the harddisk in 
SATA2 mode through the promise sata-controller I have to force SATA1 mode now 
because the via sata-controller does not support SATA2.

Thanks
Bruno
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[opensuse] Dualhead and 3D

[michael norman]

Hi

I have openSUSE 10.2 running in dualhead mode with an NVIDIA GeForce 6800 card 
and the latest NVIIDIA proprietary drivers.  All of which works fine, except 
for 3D games.

I also have a W2k partition which my son uses for his games.  On W2k it is 
possible to run a game in 3D on one screen.  When we try to run 3D games in 
SUSE using Cedega we cannot achieve the same.  In other words what we get is 
the game spread across the two screens.

I have looked at the NVIDIA server settings GUI but I can't find a setting 
there, nor in SAX.

My question is, is what I want to do possible in Linux ?

I'd be interested if anybody on the list has achieved what I want to do, if so 
can you give me an example Xorg conf so I can modify mine ?

TIA

Mike
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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:
> On 2006-12-17 04:48, Mark Hounschell wrote:
>> A dmesg output from the OP might shed some light.
> That won't help at all, since nothing related to the clocks is logged to
> the system log (the default xntp configuration is logging to /var/log/ntp).
> 
> The only clues available are from reading the kernel time variables
> directly (adjtimex, or ntpdc if ntpd is running), and from comparing the
> hardware of systems that are having the problem.
> 


dmesg | grep clock
Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.

All the clock source stuff is in kernel not ntp

Duh...
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[opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Aaron Bridge]

I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5 checksum 
using Windows XP?


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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Mark Hounschell]

Mark Hounschell wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>> On 2006-12-17 04:48, Mark Hounschell wrote:
>>> A dmesg output from the OP might shed some light.
>> That won't help at all, since nothing related to the clocks is logged to
>> the system log (the default xntp configuration is logging to /var/log/ntp).
>>
>> The only clues available are from reading the kernel time variables
>> directly (adjtimex, or ntpdc if ntpd is running), and from comparing the
>> hardware of systems that are having the problem.
>>
> 
> 
> dmesg | grep clock
> Time: acpi_pm clocksource has been installed.
> 
> All the clock source stuff is in kernel not ntp
> 
> Duh...

Remember the original problem IS NOT an NTP problem. The guys clock runs
to fast.

Mark
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Re: [opensuse] Zen updater

[Kenneth Schneider]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 02:31 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> OkI lost it and am too tired to continue looking tonight. Someone posted 
> in the past couple of days, a web site that has all the data needed to setup 
> Zen correctly to update from various repositories.like get a list auto. 
> Could that kind soul please post that address again?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Fred
> 

I think it was me, try this link:
http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378

It used to be RepoKommander but is now called konvenientSUSE. It allows
you to select additional repos, download and install the latest Nvidia
driver, install the needed software to watch protected DVDs and more.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 05:57, Mark Hounschell wrote:
> Darryl Gregorash wrote:
>   
>> On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
>>> initially?
>>>
>>>   
>> What exactly does that do, Anders?
>>
>> 
>
> This is just manually overriding the automatic time source selection.
> You're using the PIT (programmable interval timer) over what was being
> automatically selected by tour kernel. If we had a dmesg output of your
> boot messages we might be able to tell what was going on with your time
> source.
OK, thanks (also to jdd for providing that reference, very informative).
I did find a relevant line in my boot.msg file so my previous comment
that nothing of interest is in the syslogs isn't correct -- but I'm not
sure it's all that meaningful either. We'll have to wait until Byte
tries Anders's suggestion to see if it solves his problem, but a simple
"it works" sure won't be overly satisfying (not to me, at any rate --
but I'm a mathematician, not an engineer :-) ).

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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 00:32 -0700, David Canar wrote:

> It would be odd if it would be Buenos Aires and Portuguese, In Argentina they
> speak Spanish (well something very similar: Castellano ;))

Hum! Castellano and Español are the same language, although some may use 
the terms to distinguish the cultist from the vulgar forms. It depends 
where you ask the question.

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Re: [opensuse] What is link-local for?

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Saturday 2006-12-16 at 20:18 -0900, John Andersen wrote:

> My older servers don't have this but my 9.3 and onwards seems
> to always have this, and I'm not sure what its for.

:-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_network

| Link-local addresses (Zeroconf)
|
| A second set of private network is the link-local address range codified 
| in RFCs 3330 and 3927. The intention behind these RFCs is to provide an 
| IP address (and by implication, network connectivity) without a DHCP 
| server being available and without having to configure a network address 
| manually. The subnet 169.254/16 has been reserved for this purpose.

| If a network address cannot be obtained via DHCP, an address from 
| 169.254.1.0 to 169.254.254.255 is assigned randomly. The standard 
| prescribes that address collisions must be handled gracefully. Within 
| the 169.254/16 address range, the subnets 169.254.0/24 and 
| 169.254.255/24 have been set aside for future use.
|
| As with the private network addresses defined in RFC 1918, packets from 
| this subnet must not be routed to the internet at large.


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[opensuse] Checking of the Nvidia driver download metadata

[Markus Elfring]

Hello,

What is wrong with this installation source in my try of an update?
http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14

Error message:
"Ihr Dienst wurde erfolgreich in YaST hinzugefügt, konnte jedoch nicht
mit ZenWorks synchronisiert werden.:
FEHLER: Hinzufügen von'ftp://download.nvidia.com/%2fopensuse/10.2' nicht
möglich: Failed to parse XML metadata: Can't add repository at
ftp://download.nvidia.com/%2fopensuse/10.2: Unknown Error: Downloading
metadata failed (is YUM source?) or user did not accept remote source.
Aborting refresh."

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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Lívio Cipriano]

 On 17 December 2006 13:45, Carlos E. R. wrote:  

>  The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 00:32 -0700, David Canar wrote:
>  > It would be odd if it would be Buenos Aires and Portuguese, In Argentina
>  > they speak Spanish (well something very similar: Castellano ;))
>
>  Hum! Castellano and Español are the same language, although some may use
>  the terms to distinguish the cultist from the vulgar forms. It depends
>  where you ask the question.

Sorry Carlos, but in Spain there are four languages, that I'm aware of: 
castellano, galego, basco and catalão. Castellano it's the official language 
of the Spanish State.

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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Martin Mielke]

Hi people!

just to finish with this, I found this mailer-daemon response on my Inbox:

---] start of pasted text

Hi. This is the qmail-send program at yahoo.com.
I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out.

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
200.69.32.246 does not like recipient.
Remote host said: 550 5.1.1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>... User unknown
Giving up on 200.69.32.246.

...

---] end of pasted text

so, this guy doesn't even know which email addresses can be used on his 
company... (sigh)


Regards,
Martin



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>
> Luciano Mari Brusco
> Ejecutivo de Cuenta
> Centro Comercial Buenos Aires.
> Departamento PYMES
> ( 011) 15 5883-2464

It's Buenos Aires, but it's not Portuguese. Odd.

> (ESTO ES UNA RESPUESTA AUTOMATICA)

means that it is an autoresponder, the rest of the message says that the 
account was deactivated and to resend to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a 
copy to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and put them in your address book as 
his new address, or something to that effect.

Basically, messages from the list are going to his old address, whatever 
it was, and bouncing.


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Re: [opensuse] Checking of the Nvidia driver download metadata

[Leendert Meyer]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 15:02, Markus Elfring wrote:
> Hello,
>
> What is wrong with this installation source in my try of an
> update? http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA
> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=14
>
> Error message:
> "Ihr Dienst wurde erfolgreich in YaST hinzugefügt, konnte jedoch
> nicht mit ZenWorks synchronisiert werden.:
> FEHLER: Hinzufügen von'ftp://download.nvidia.com/%2fopensuse/10.2'
> nicht möglich: Failed to parse XML metadata: Can't add repository
> at ftp://download.nvidia.com/%2fopensuse/10.2: Unknown Error:
> Downloading metadata failed (is YUM source?) or user did not
> accept remote source. Aborting refresh."

Somewhere there has a %2f sneaked in...

protocol: http
server: download.nvidia.com
serverdir: opensuse/10.2

ftp may work, but I know http works.

Cheers,

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Re: [opensuse] What is link-local for?

[James Knott]

John Andersen wrote:
> Why does my eth0 interface contain a link-local route if I run the route 
> command.?
>
> My older servers don't have this but my 9.3 and onwards seems
> to always have this, and I'm not sure what its for.
>   
I believe Link Local connections are now supported, if network
interfaces are configured with Network Manager.
This will allow automatic IP configuration, when there's no DHCP server
available.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Anders Norrbring]

Darryl Gregorash wrote:

On 2006-12-17 02:49, Anders Norrbring wrote:


Have you yet tried the boot parameter "clock=pit" as I suggested
initially?


What exactly does that do, Anders?



I see others already replied with the info.. :)

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Re: [opensuse] postage stamps

[James Knott]

Peter Cannon wrote:
> "Get our new whizzo 
> thingy ma jig 25p each or four for a £1.00" ;-)
>
>   
How much for a thinkmabob?  ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] Spanish nonsense

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 14:18 -, Lívio Cipriano wrote:

> >  Hum! Castellano and Español are the same language, although some may use
> >  the terms to distinguish the cultist from the vulgar forms. It depends
> >  where you ask the question.
> 
> Sorry Carlos, but in Spain there are four languages, that I'm aware of: 
> castellano, galego, basco and catalão. Castellano it's the official language 
> of the Spanish State.

Should I remind you that I'm Spanish? ;-)

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Re: [opensuse] article about Midnight Commander

[Günther J. Niederwimmer]

Hello,

Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 14:23 schrieb Rajko M.:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 03:48, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Someone knows the reason, why ( [ ] case Sensitive ) in SUSE's (9.1 or
> > 9.3 ?) mc  any longer is in function ?

> [ ] case Sensitive in what menu?

File find 
Ctr + Alt + ?

> I have it in search (openSUSE 10.2) if document is open for edit (F4)
> If it is open for viewing (F3) there is only:
> "Enter search string:
OK ;)
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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Stelian Iancu]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 14:44, Aaron Bridge wrote:
> I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5 checksum
> using Windows XP?

There are a couple of md5sum-checking software for Windows as well. Check out 
http://www.etree.org/md5com.html for one of them.

S.


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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Randall R Schulz]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:44, Aaron Bridge wrote:
> I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5
> checksum using Windows XP?

The installer steps you through an option MD5 checksum validation stage 
early on, so you could just boot the installation disk, tell it to do 
that check and then bail out after it's done. At that point, nothing 
has been done to the system on which it's running.

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Erik Jakobsen]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:44, Aaron Bridge wrote:
>   
>> I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5
>> checksum using Windows XP?
>> 
>
> The installer steps you through an option MD5 checksum validation stage 
> early on, so you could just boot the installation disk, tell it to do 
> that check and then bail out after it's done. At that point, nothing 
> has been done to the system on which it's running.
>
> Randall Schulz
>   
For that method I would prefer an R/W media. because if the .ISO is
distorted the media is ready for the garbage collector :-)

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Re: [opensuse] postage stamps

[Peter Cannon]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 14:37, James Knott wrote:

> How much for a thinkmabob?  ;-)

Were doing a special, full price up front nothing to pay for 12 months.

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Randall R Schulz]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 09:02, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
> Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:44, Aaron Bridge wrote:
> >> I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5
> >> checksum using Windows XP?
> >
> > The installer steps you through an option MD5 checksum validation
> > stage early on, so you could just boot the installation disk, tell
> > it to do that check and then bail out after it's done. At that
> > point, nothing has been done to the system on which it's running.
> >
> > Randall Schulz
>
> For that method I would prefer an R/W media. because if the .ISO is
> distorted the media is ready for the garbage collector :-)

How does that change the original question?

Anyway, if that's your concern just use re-writeable media to burn the 
CD or DVD. But since optical media is pretty cheap and the likelihood 
of a problem is pretty low, why bother?


> ...
> Erik Jakobsen


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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Erik Jakobsen]

Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 09:02, Erik Jakobsen wrote:
>   
>> Randall R Schulz wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:44, Aaron Bridge wrote:
>>>   
 I don't have 10.2 installed yet, so how would I check the MD5
 checksum using Windows XP?
 
>>> The installer steps you through an option MD5 checksum validation
>>> stage early on, so you could just boot the installation disk, tell
>>> it to do that check and then bail out after it's done. At that
>>> point, nothing has been done to the system on which it's running.
>>>
>>> Randall Schulz
>>>   
>> For that method I would prefer an R/W media. because if the .ISO is
>> distorted the media is ready for the garbage collector :-)
>> 
>
> How does that change the original question?
>
> Anyway, if that's your concern just use re-writeable media to burn the 
> CD or DVD. But since optical media is pretty cheap and the likelihood 
> of a problem is pretty low, why bother?
>
>
>   
>> ...
>> Erik Jakobsen
>> 
>
>
> Randall Schulz
>   

Sorry for interfering, was not my intention to make anything wrong. And
sorry for writing.

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 09:19 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> > For that method I would prefer an R/W media. because if the .ISO is
> > distorted the media is ready for the garbage collector :-)
> 
> How does that change the original question?

Because the md5sum of the image can (and should) be checked before burning 
it :-)

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[opensuse] ot: Open Office

[John Meyer]

I know this is not the list for Open Office, but can somebody tell me
how to turn off that annoying Clippy knockoff?
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Re: [opensuse] ot: Open Office

[Leendert Meyer]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 18:44, John Meyer wrote:
> I know this is not the list for Open Office, but can somebody tell
> me how to turn off that annoying Clippy knockoff?

I think:

  Tools -> Options -> OpenOffice.org -> General -> "Help Agent"

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Randall R Schulz]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 09:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 09:19 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > For that method I would prefer an R/W media. because if the .ISO
> > > is distorted the media is ready for the garbage collector :-)
> >
> > How does that change the original question?
>
> Because the md5sum of the image can (and should) be checked before
> burning it :-)

Well, I think there's much greater likelihood of an error occurring 
during the recording of the optical media than during the file 
retrieval, since there's abundant error detection in the Internet 
protocols.


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[opensuse] openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso md5sum's do not match

[rtwas]

Hello,

I downloaded openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso from 
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
twice and get the same md5sum both times. The problem is it does'nt 
match what is listed in the MD5SUMS

list file (from the same page).


md5sum openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso = de9c2eff128c8a6209b124986d8c863b

listing from the MD5SUMS file:

b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee  openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso


Thanks.

Robert W.
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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso md5sum's do not match

[Martin Mielke]

Sorry to disappoint you but... they do match! :-)

I got my DVD ISO image from the mirror in Switzerland, which is relatively 
close to me... well, at least closer than those in Asia :-)

Try again...


Regards,
Martin


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Hello,

I downloaded openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso from 
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
 twice and get the same md5sum both times. The problem is it does'nt 
match what is listed in the MD5SUMS
list file (from the same page).


md5sum openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso = de9c2eff128c8a6209b124986d8c863b

listing from the MD5SUMS file:

b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee  openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso


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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso md5sum's do not match

[Mark Goldstein]

On 12/17/06, rtwas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

I downloaded openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso from
http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
 twice and get the same md5sum both times. The problem is it does'nt
match what is listed in the MD5SUMS
list file (from the same page).


md5sum openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso = de9c2eff128c8a6209b124986d8c863b

listing from the MD5SUMS file:

b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee  openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso


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The same here. But I tried "media check" and it succeeded. Strange.
Haven't try to install from this DVD yet.

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Re: [opensuse] Re: 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 07:05, Mark Hounschell wrote:
> No NTP messages are going to tell you why your clock source is not
> letting you keep reasonably accurate time. Don't you think a machine
> without NTP can keep time? NTP has nothing to do with this problem. It
> is only been suggested as a possible mask of the problem.
Mark, I never *said* this was an ntp problem. Neither did I suggest that
ntp messages will tell you much about the internal time; I merely said
that ntpd logs more information. Of course I think a machine without ntp
can keep time. I did, after all, suggest the OP stop his ntpd daemon
before fetching the kernel time parameters and clock behaviour.

> When everything is working right all you will see is a message
> indicating what clocksource is installed. It's when the kernel thinks
> there is a problem with one or more of the clock sources it will spit
> out meaningful info.
>   
Though I don't know what checks the kernel makes, when the clock keeps a
consistent rate, I doubt it will be logging much information. OP's
system clock seems to be keeping a very consistent rate --
unfortunately, it's 178,900 ppm fast. It's nearly 2007, and we still
don't have a decent high-speed clock 


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[opensuse]

[Michael S. Dunsavage]

I have plans for an embedded server running a
VPN/Firewall/Apache/Mailserver.  Would a 133MHz embedded board w/ 64MB
and a Compact Flash IDE be sufficient?  I know 133 is slow, but it's not
really like I'm going to run X on it or anything like that.  Probably
maybe mysql.  I don't expect more than 20 hits a week if that. It's not
public, just process of learning.

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[opensuse] embedded vpn/mailserver/apahce/mysql/firewall projoect

[Michael S. Dunsavage]

I have plans for an embedded server running a
VPN/Firewall/Apache/Mailserver.  Would a 133MHz embedded board w/ 64MB
and a Compact Flash IDE be sufficient?  I know 133 is slow, but it's not
really like I'm going to run X on it or anything like that.  Probably
maybe mysql.  I don't expect more than 20 hits a week if that. It's not
public, just process of learning.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso md5sum's do not match

[Bob Ewart]

Mark Goldstein wrote:
> On 12/17/06, rtwas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I downloaded openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso from
>> http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
>>  twice and get the same md5sum both times. The problem is it does'nt
>> match what is listed in the MD5SUMS
>> list file (from the same page).
>>
>>
>> md5sum openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso = de9c2eff128c8a6209b124986d8c863b
>>
>> listing from the MD5SUMS file:
>>
>> b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee  openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Robert W.
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> The same here. But I tried "media check" and it succeeded. Strange.
> Haven't try to install from this DVD yet.
> 

The downloads from opensuse.org and the bittorrents were taking too
long.  (My DSL line has problems when it rains.) So I tried one of the
mirrors on http://en.opensuse.org/Mirrors_Released_Version  I think it
was
ftp://suse.mirrors.tds.net/pub/opensuse/distribution/10.2/iso/dvd/openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso

It came down and checked out with the md5sum you show in the file.

I don't know what you used to download the file, but some of the ftp
programs choke at over 2GB.

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 system clock too fast and NTP

[jfweber]

On Sat December 16 2006 6:55 pm, ByteEnable scratched these words onto a 
coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > On Sat December 16 2006 10:21 am, ByteEnable scratched these words
> > onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
> > 
> >
> >> Bottom line is that something in OpenSUSE 10.2 is messed up!  Too
> >> many people complaining about the same issue.
> >>
> >> Again, I've only had this issue with OpenSUSE 10.2, other Linux
> >> distro's have worked flawlessly.
> >
> > Gee, two out of , how many 10k, more? ,  people have this
> > problem ? Suse 10.2 must be really messed up. 
> >
> > I suspect the guys are right and there is simply something about
> > your setup that doesn't work as expected. If other distros work
> > perfectly.. well go there , wait for a Suse 10.2  update , or
> > whatever.. it wont help your problem to get this group mad at you,
> > or discount what you say, now will it?
>
> Why don't you offer suggestions instead of little boy threats?
I'm not a little *boy*
Geez, you male centric git! 
I offered a suggestion as valid as some others.. if one can't reprogram 
stuff one must wait until those who can, do.. I can't , so I mention 
problem, and when I'm told it's a bug, I wait til it's fixed. Whining 
doesn't help little boy... Nanny gets very cranky and you'll get no 
tea!
;)

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Re: [opensuse] K3b and mp3

[BandiPat]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 05:29, Stelian Iancu wrote:

> Thanks John! That indeed solved this problem.
>
> However, now I get the following message:
>
> cdrdao will be run without root privileges
> It is highly recommended to configure cdrdao to run with root
> privileges to increase the overall stability of the burning process.
> Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem.
>
> (As far as I understand from this, it works just well the way it is
> now, just that it is recommended to setuid cdrdao).
>
> So I press on the "Start K3bSetup2" button and nothing happens.
> Trying to run /opt/kde3/bin/k3bsetup as root from the konsole gives
> me the following:
[...]
> Obviously it cannot find this k3bsetup2 "module". What kind of a
> module is this and where can I then find it?
>
> Br,
> Stelian

Stelian,
I don't believe the setup program is included any longer with k3b.  Not 
sure why they haven't removed that from the menu either.  Basically, 
when you get the message you spoke of above, just click on "OK" and go 
on with your work.  No harm, no foul.  Don't worry about it.

All of your settings now are pretty much configured in the Configure 
part of the menu and if you feel you only want "Root" to be able to 
burn CD/DVDs, then manually change all the permissions on cdrdao and 
the other programs used.  I really don't think that is what you want 
though, so again click on OK in the message window and carry on as 
usual.

bye,
Lee
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[opensuse] bugzilla unavailability rant

[Jon Nelson]

Just a small rant:

6 of the last 7 times I have tried to access bugzilla.novell.com it has 
been inoperative. This, for me, has been an ongoing problem since before 
10.2 was released. I try to do my part and file bugs so that they can 
get fixed and improve the quality of the SUSE and OpenSUSE products, but 
I cannot do this if bugzilla is down more often than not.

Please, Novell, try to keep your bug tracking system up, it should be 
more than a little embarrasing that one of the largest tech companies in 
the world has a bug tracking system which is unavailable as often as 
this one appears to be.

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Re: [opensuse]

[Alexey Eremenko]

Try - the only problem here is that SUSE 10.x won't install with less
than 128 MB of RAM.

so read that before you do & good luck.

SUSE install with small RAM memory:
http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory
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[opensuse] fusesmb, how does it work?

[Verner Kjærsgaard]

Hi list,

- finally did it, switched to SUSE10.2 on my DELL M90 laptop.
- to my horror, no smbmount...I cannot mount my smb shares over my VPN as I 
use to.
- I can do smb://blah..blah in Konqueror, works fine.
- no sweat, there's a NEW THING called fusesmb. 

Looks very good, alas no documentation, only VERY scarce man and info pages. 
Not much more on the project homepage. Nothing in the SuSE wiki. And yet; 
it's a package that made it into SuSE10.2 as the recommended choice.

Can someone enlighten me, please...

How do I use the darn thing??
I need to mount my smb shares into, say /home/myuser/Documents/a_mount-point/

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Re: [opensuse] 10.2 Preorder

[Paul Ollion]

On Saturday 16 December 2006 20:40, Paul Ollion wrote:
> On Saturday 16 December 2006 18:00, Stelian Iancu wrote:
> > http://www.edv-buchversand.de/suse/product.php?cnt=product&id=sus171&lng=
>
> Thanks  Stelian
>  It appears possible toorder a 10.2  boxed set from this place.
> Unfortunately the "Warenkorb" does not work. I will try again to morrow

I tried again to day and it worked, though I had some trouble with the German 
language. But I succeeded and my new SuSE 10.2 (in English, i hope) is ordered 
thanks to you. 
 It will cost 59.95 Euros , shipping included.

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Re: [opensuse]

[Michael S. Dunsavage]

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 23:01 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Try - the only problem here is that SUSE 10.x won't install with less
> than 128 MB of RAM.
> 
> so read that before you do & good luck.
> 
> SUSE install with small RAM memory:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory


I was thinking of installing an embedded linux distro actually.  I was
just wondering if those specs sounded reasonable?

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso md5sum's do not match

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 11:56 -0700, rtwas wrote:

> http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version
> twice and get the same md5sum both times. The problem is it does'nt match what
> is listed in the MD5SUMS
> list file (from the same page).

You can find another source for the md5: inside the metalink file:



> md5sum openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso = de9c2eff128c8a6209b124986d8c863b
> 
> listing from the MD5SUMS file:
> 
> b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee  openSUSE-10.2-GM-DVD-x86_64.iso

3932309504

 b4d727d2fb62c701233ea537f220e9ee



That matches the listed one, but not what you got.

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 09:58 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:

> > Because the md5sum of the image can (and should) be checked before
> > burning it :-)
> 
> Well, I think there's much greater likelihood of an error occurring 
> during the recording of the optical media than during the file 
> retrieval, since there's abundant error detection in the Internet 
> protocols.

Maybe so, but nevertheless, my downloaded image was in error.

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla unavailability rant

[Felix Miata]

On 2006/12/17 14:36 (GMT-0600) Jon Nelson apparently typed:

> 6 of the last 7 times I have tried to access bugzilla.novell.com it has 
> been inoperative. This, for me, has been an ongoing problem since before 
> 10.2 was released. I try to do my part and file bugs so that they can 
> get fixed and improve the quality of the SUSE and OpenSUSE products, but 
> I cannot do this if bugzilla is down more often than not.

> Please, Novell, try to keep your bug tracking system up, it should be 
> more than a little embarrasing that one of the largest tech companies in 
> the world has a bug tracking system which is unavailable as often as 
> this one appears to be.

What you might be seeing is incompatibility between your choice of
browser and the way Novell's bugzilla https is configured. What browser
and version are you using? Take a look at
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350512 for the issues.
Every first time after browser session opening that I try to access it
it always takes at least 15 seconds before anything happens, but after
that point, everything is fine until I restart the browser again.

Probably a better place to discuss this is either the opensuse-factory
list or by filing a new bugzilla bug.
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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Darryl Gregorash]

On 2006-12-17 11:19, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> Anyway, if that's your concern just use re-writeable media to burn the 
> CD or DVD. But since optical media is pretty cheap and the likelihood 
> of a problem is pretty low, why bother?
Check out the prices at bestbuy.ca -- there is a fee collected by a
consortium run by the recording industry that pretty much doubles the
price of blank media in Canada. We are led to believe (like the Queen of
Hearts, I am capable of believing impossible things ;-)  ) that the fee
goes to the artists who actually created the music.

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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla unavailability rant

[Wolfgang Rosenauer]

Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2006/12/17 14:36 (GMT-0600) Jon Nelson apparently typed:
> 
>> 6 of the last 7 times I have tried to access bugzilla.novell.com it has 
>> been inoperative. This, for me, has been an ongoing problem since before 
>> 10.2 was released. I try to do my part and file bugs so that they can 
>> get fixed and improve the quality of the SUSE and OpenSUSE products, but 
>> I cannot do this if bugzilla is down more often than not.
> 
>> Please, Novell, try to keep your bug tracking system up, it should be 
>> more than a little embarrasing that one of the largest tech companies in 
>> the world has a bug tracking system which is unavailable as often as 
>> this one appears to be.
> 
> What you might be seeing is incompatibility between your choice of
> browser and the way Novell's bugzilla https is configured. What browser
> and version are you using? Take a look at
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=350512 for the issues.
> Every first time after browser session opening that I try to access it
> it always takes at least 15 seconds before anything happens, but after
> that point, everything is fine until I restart the browser again.
> 
> Probably a better place to discuss this is either the opensuse-factory
> list or by filing a new bugzilla bug.

If it turns out the problem is the iChain TLS issue please don't file
another bug in Novell's bugzilla. It's already reported since quite some
time. A (not really nice) workaround is to disable TLS in the
preferences and only keep SSL3 enabled.

Wolfgang
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Re: [opensuse]

[D Gavrilovic]

http://www.smoothwall.org/


On 12/17/06, Michael S. Dunsavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 23:01 +0200, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
> Try - the only problem here is that SUSE 10.x won't install with less
> than 128 MB of RAM.
>
> so read that before you do & good luck.
>
> SUSE install with small RAM memory:
> http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory


I was thinking of installing an embedded linux distro actually.  I was
just wondering if those specs sounded reasonable?

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Re: [opensuse] Zen updater

[Fred A. Miller]

On Sunday December 17 2006 6:43 am, Pete Connolly wrote:
> On Sunday 17 December 2006 07:31, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > OkI lost it and am too tired to continue looking tonight. Someone
> > posted in the past couple of days, a web site that has all the data
> > needed to setup Zen correctly to update from various
> > repositories.like get a list auto. Could that kind soul please post
> > that address again?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Fred
> >
> > Doing upgrades from 10.1 to 10.2 on desktops
>
> Was it this list that I sent that you are thinking of?  Hopefully...

Yes.thanks!

Fred

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Re: [opensuse] article about Midnight Commander

[Rajko M.]

On Sunday 17 December 2006 09:43, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Am Sonntag, 17. Dezember 2006 14:23 schrieb Rajko M.:
> > On Sunday 17 December 2006 03:48, Günther J. Niederwimmer wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Someone knows the reason, why ( [ ] case Sensitive ) in SUSE's (9.1 or
> > > 9.3 ?) mc  any longer is in function ?
> >
> > [ ] case Sensitive in what menu?
>
> File find
> Ctr + Alt + ?

This is present too (use fixed font view):
┌─ Find File ──┐  
│ Start at: .  [^] │
│ Filename: *  [^] │
│ Content: │
│ [x] case Sensitive   │
│ [< OK >]  [ Tree ][ Cancel ] │
└──┘  

Though Ctrl+Alt+Shift+/ to get M + ? is not the user friendliest combination  
I have the same with Alt+Shift+/  :-)

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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Carlos E. R.]

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The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 15:18 -0600, Darryl Gregorash wrote:

> Check out the prices at bestbuy.ca -- there is a fee collected by a
> consortium run by the recording industry that pretty much doubles the
> price of blank media in Canada. 

We have is a similar thing in Spain as well, but I don't know the percent. 
A kind of author association tax.

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Re: [opensuse] CLP

[James Lockie]

John Andersen wrote:

On Saturday 16 December 2006 15:42, James Lockie wrote:
  

James Tremblay wrote:


On Sat, 2006-12-16 at 18:21 -0500, James Lockie wrote:
  

I am looking at becoming a Certified Linux Professional.
Is OpenSUSE close enough to the Novel Entreprise SUSE?


Having taken the CLP course, I would say that you could use OpenSUSE as
a distribution in concert with training materials to achieve the test
objectives. The official course materials contain the SLES distribution.
James
  

The official course materials probably contain the 60 day trial of SLES.

Is the a document explaining the differences between OpenSUSE and SLES?



Yes, there is on the Novell site, I forget the exact place. Gooogle for 
it.


The differences are fairly substantial, but not insurmountable.
If you are a long time suse user your suse knowledge has a tendency to get in 
the way.  

You know how you would do something in regular suse, and you 
are tempted to just do it that way, but since SLES depends heavily on 
Ldap for almost everything, its a temptation you must resist. 

To the extent the course depends on, or is focused toward, an 
ldap oriented installation with the heavy-duty mail chain,
(Postfix-Amavisd-Clamv-Spamassassin-Postfix-Cyrus), 
you may need to change your standard suse install significantly.


The SLES installer does this elaborate setup for you.

So the answer depends to a large extent on the focus of the
course.  If its a general purpose course, opensuse would be fine.
If its sles oriented, get sles.  For the duration you can live without
updates if you just want to download it and use it for coursework.

  

I hope to get certified without taking a course.
I currently use Gentoo Linux and I have used other distributions but not 
suse. :-)



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Re: [opensuse] How to check the MD5 checksum in Windows

[Randall R Schulz]

Carlos,

On Sunday 17 December 2006 13:14, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Sunday 2006-12-17 at 09:58 -0800, Randall R Schulz wrote:
> > > Because the md5sum of the image can (and should) be checked
> > > before burning it :-)
> >
> > Well, I think there's much greater likelihood of an error occurring
> > during the recording of the optical media than during the file
> > retrieval, since there's abundant error detection in the Internet
> > protocols.
>
> Maybe so, but nevertheless, my downloaded image was in error.

Well, there's no accounting for software errors and their failure to 
detect hardware errors or other software errors...

Incidentally, what software did you use to perform the retrieval? I 
don't think I've ever gotten corrupt ISO images using Azureus.

Nonetheless, there is a subsequent chance for error (when writing the 
optical media), and since you must check after that last point at which 
errors may be introduced, it's not clear there's much advantage to 
doing so earlier. Sure, you can save the cost of one piece of R/O 
media, but if you use R/W media, then it's a wash--you might as well 
wait till the final stage before verifying. Then you only have to do it 
once.


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>Carlos E. R.


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Re: [opensuse] Fresh install fails on CD and DVD

[dbeck]

I have the exact same issue with my Acer laptop. I 
successfully installed 10.2 on two desktops without any 
problems whatsoever with the same DVD. I 'did' check 
md5sum after download and after burning to disc.


Acer Travelmate 254, P-4 2.8GHz, 1GB DDR, Intel 852/855 
chipset.


Dean

On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 17:53:36 -0800 (PST)
 Martin Mielke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi there,

silly question: did you run a md5sum on the ISO images 
before burning the CDs/DVD?


This symptom you describe happened to me once when the 
ISO wasn't downloaded correctly...


Solution: download again and check the md5sum... 


HTH,
Martin


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Subject: [opensuse] Fresh install fails on CD and DVD

I have reformatted my hard drive and tried to install 
with both CD and 
DVD.  It boots fine and I choose install installation. 
It starts 
booting and then seems to hang every time on:


NET: Registered protocol family 2

Keep in  mind  I  had  no problems  installing  openSuse 
10.1



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Re: [opensuse] bugzilla unavailability rant

[Jon Nelson]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Felix Miata wrote:

> On 2006/12/17 14:36 (GMT-0600) Jon Nelson apparently typed:
> 
> > 6 of the last 7 times I have tried to access bugzilla.novell.com it has 
> > been inoperative. This, for me, has been an ongoing problem since before 
> > 10.2 was released. I try to do my part and file bugs so that they can 
> > get fixed and improve the quality of the SUSE and OpenSUSE products, but 
> > I cannot do this if bugzilla is down more often than not.
> 
> > Please, Novell, try to keep your bug tracking system up, it should be 
> > more than a little embarrasing that one of the largest tech companies in 
> > the world has a bug tracking system which is unavailable as often as 
> > this one appears to be.
> 
> What you might be seeing is incompatibility between your choice of
> browser and the way Novell's bugzilla https is configured. What browser
> and version are you using? Take a look at

I'm using firefox as it ships with OpenSUSE 10.2. I've also tried 
konquerer (again, OpenSUSE 10.2) and firefox with SUSE 10.1

This is a /resource availability/ problem as far as I can tell.


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[opensuse] 10.2

[James Lockie]

I installed opensuse-10.2 on another partition.
The install went mostly fine except  I have 2 problems. :-)
The "xorg-x11-fonts" package was not found on the DVD and yet I verified 
the md5sum.


The other problem is I can't boot it.
I set the /boot mount point to my existing ext3 grub partition but it 
didn't put a bzImage file anywhere that I can find. :-(


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Re: [opensuse] Zen updater

[Fred A. Miller]

On Sunday December 17 2006 8:45 am, Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Sun, 2006-12-17 at 02:31 -0500, Fred A. Miller wrote:
> > OkI lost it and am too tired to continue looking tonight. Someone
> > posted in the past couple of days, a web site that has all the data
> > needed to setup Zen correctly to update from various
> > repositories.like get a list auto. Could that kind soul please post
> > that address again?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Fred
>
> I think it was me, try this link:
> http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=43378
>
> It used to be RepoKommander but is now called konvenientSUSE. It allows
> you to select additional repos, download and install the latest Nvidia
> driver, install the needed software to watch protected DVDs and more.

Thanks, Ken..works well. One of the things I find interesting, is that one 
update package will offer diff. files than another update app. This SHOULDN'T 
happen, but it consistantly does.

Fred

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