Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 47
Am Dienstag 20 November 2007 schrieb Daniele: Il martedì 20 novembre 2007, Marcus Meissner scrisse: I've got idea! What about a testing repo just for testing incoming updates ? If after some time (24/36h) updates dont show problems, become official updates. Well, far from perfect but could help preventing bug like boots. Expert users can deal with broken patch/system... So, what do you think about it ? Its not new. And in fact its internally already set-up, we are just not having configured the staging to sync it out I think. _internally_. Perhaps internally it's not enough.. Internally is always the first step. That's where everything comes from right now :) It's just not so easy to find a good place on our mirrors for this. And this is what we're working on. Greetings, Stephan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Dist Meeting at SUSE
Hi! Last thursday we had a dist meeting to discuss policy changes for our distributions that affect a lot of teams. So these are the minutes, if you have questions, feel free to ask - this is just me typing. Greetings, Stephan Present: jpr, holgi, matz, cfarrel, mls, kukuk, hvogel, meissner, radmanic, ro, coolo, adrian, nadvornik, jsrain, gekker Patchrpms considered harmful no consistency checkin, so created problems in the past update stack can not check the integrity (by design) delta rpms are better anyway, just little bigger in cases new patches for old or only new products? too dangerous to disable Marcus decided: go for = 10.3 and disable patch rpms Stricter checks for updates texlive update removed some manual pages some files were not marked as %noverify, which are changed by %post delta packages could not be applied, creating a 200MB update suggested policy: %post call in package build and rpm -Va output fails package Conclusion: rpm -V output is a critical bug (TODO: at least 257 packages in Factory affected) Sync build service with factory e.g. gnome team wants to maintain packages in build service time left out to discuss this Conclusion between those left in the room: GNOME team should go ahead, but should be aware that whoever submits a package to autobuild is responsible for reviewing the changes, no matter where they come from. Tools support earliest in spring 2008 according to build service road map -- SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: openSUSE Factory update (gcc 4.3)
Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Tue, Nov 20, 2007 at 10:08:57PM +, Sid Boyce wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Sid Boyce wrote: Problems compiling last Nvidia driver (100.14.23) and old one (100.14.19) since I updete to last gcc and kernel linux-2.6.24-rc2-4 I write a bug if somebody didn't it before I reported the problem to the NVidia forum on the basis of this report and they asked for nvidia-installer.log. When a few days later I got around to building 100.14.19 for a new kernel, it all went OK and still builds under 2.6.24-rc2-git6. Hmm, still doesn't work for me, neither on the 2.6.24-rc2-git4 from the factory repository nor on the 2.6.24-rc2-git6 from the build service. It seems it's a ix86 bug, perfectly OK on x86_64. Did you apply the patch given in the nvnews forum? [...] This is Takashi's patch. See Bug #341801. fglrx is affected as well. See Bug #341805. Thanks, actually works fine with the patch from bug 341801. Robert Kaiser - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] rkhunter 1.3.0
On Tue, 20 Nov 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:- snip The 1.3.0 one does not know either unless I patch another stupid 1 liner into its config file to detect 10.3. If you're referring to the os.dat file, it's unused by anything other than check_update.sh. I've been running 1.3.0, from the CVS release in July when I added bug #1713985 to the rkhunter/sourceforge bugzilla[0], and it's been fine on the various systems I've used it on[1][2]. One thing I did need to do after installation, and probably something that should have been added to the %post of the spec is to call rkhunter --propupd to create the rkhunter.dat database. [0] URL:http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1713985gro up_id=155034atid=794187 [1] 10.0 x86_64, where I initially found the script path bug, 10.1 x86_64, and more recently 10.3PPC. [2] I've just built the release version from sourceforge.net and installed it upon a 10.3 x86 system and there's no complaints about unknown OS versions there either. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: http://www.distributed.net/ OGR-P2 @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~15Mkeys | SUSE 10.1 32bit | openSUSE 10.2 32bit | openSUSE 10.3 32bit SUSE 10.0 64bit | SUSE 10.1 64bit | openSUSE 10.2 64bit | RISC OS 3.11 | RISC OS 3.6 | TOS 4.02| openSUSE 10.3 PPC - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Dňa Wednesday 21 November 2007 05:36:35 Aaron Kulkis ste napísal: This is why smart people make /home, /opt, and /local to be separate filesystems (or at least make /local a symbolic link to something like /home/local and/or /opt to be a symbolic link to /home/opt.) This should be the DEFAULT set-up for a new installation, because the uninitiated has absolutely no idea that having /home, /local and /opt on the root filesystem is setting them up for major headaches when they want to install the system. AFAIK /home is by default on a different partition. The other ones are rather special for people installing a lots of additional software. In fact, in the install, it would be REALLY super-nice if I could specify the creation of any symbolic links and target directories before ANY packages are installed. This sounds like super-expert stuff. You can do it with add-on product, but I don't think this will be ever implemented. Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: The installer is able to detect if there are old installations and get the list of the users also when doing a clean install side-by-side with other linux installation. I believe he referred to this functionality. I never see this when doing a fresh install (even with multi distro), may be I missed it jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] KDE updates smart
Hi, I'm running openSuSE 10.3 with KDE 3.5.8 release 21.2. I run smart on a regular basis but have not seen any updates to KDE for a long while. Below is my channel list from smart. Do I have all the correct channels? Thanks Phil [rpm-sys] type = rpm-sys name = RPM System [KDE:Qt] type = rpm-md name = Latest Qt4 packages (KDE:Qt) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Qt/openSUSE_10.3/ [OpenOffice.org] type = rpm-md name = Latest stable OpenOffice.org packages (OpenOffice.org:STABLE) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/STABLE/openSUSE_10.3/ [ruby] type = rpm-md name = Latest Ruby and Ruby on Rails packages baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/ruby/openSUSE_10.3/ [X11:XGL] type = rpm-md name = Repository for Xgl and related packages that give your Desktop some bling (X11:XGL) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/X11:/XGL/openSUSE_10.3/ [openSUSE:Tools] type = rpm-md name = openSUSE Tools Repository baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:/Tools/openSUSE_10.3/ [KDE:Backports] type = rpm-md name = Backports of KDE packages from Factory (KDE:Backports) baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Backports/openSUSE_10.3/ [opensuse] type = yast2 name = openSUSE-10.3-FTP disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/oss/ [KDE:Community] type = rpm-md name = Latest KDE packages contributed by the Community (KDE:Community) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Community/openSUSE_10.3/ [smart] type = rpm-md name = Latest smart packages for openSUSE priority = 10 baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/smart/openSUSE_10.3/ [packman] type = rpm-md name = Packman repository baseurl = http://packman.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/packman/suse/10.3/ [KDE:KDE3] type = rpm-md name = Latest KDE3 packages (KDE:KDE3) baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE3/openSUSE_10.3/ [OpenOffice.org:extras] type = rpm-md name = Latest stable add-ons for OpenOffice.org (OpenOffice.org:EXTRAS) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/OpenOffice.org:/EXTRAS/openSUSE_10.3/ [opensuse-nonoss] type = yast2 name = openSUSE-10.3-FTP-NonOSS disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3/repo/non-oss/ [opensuse-updates] type = rpm-md name = openSUSE-10.3 Updates baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/update/10.3/ [KDE:KDE4] type = rpm-md name = Latest KDE4 packages (KDE:KDE4) disabled = yes baseurl = http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/KDE4/openSUSE_10.3/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Aaron Kulkis wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Not only did I quit buying from RedHat -- I quit USING RedHat, too. I see that Novell's decision to imitate RedHat is causing my worst fears to be realized with the SuSE distro -- the one distro that I want...which I'm willing to pay around $100 US for... is not getting supported properly, and it's sounding like, even for the cost of burning a download, the value-proposition is somewhat iffy. This is totally sad. I've been a die-hard SuSE fan since the 6.x days, and I've forked over probably $400 over the years for the various incarnations which are now the opensuse distribution. Reviewing the boxes and manuals laying around the room, it looks like I spent about US $600 on Suse Professional distributions since the 6.x days. That is a lot of money. Otoh, imagine you started to use Windows in the Suse 6.x days. How much would you have spent on this? If you review those two figures, it gets clear, that opensuse cannot be the foundation for the Novell Business while windows licenses are (part of) the foundation for the MS business- So as sad as it is, we do not pay (sufficiently) for the software that we use. Therefore, our influence on it's development is very limited, financewise. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
On 11/21/2007 03:55 PM, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: The installer is able to detect if there are old installations and get the list of the users also when doing a clean install side-by-side with other linux installation. I believe he referred to this functionality. I pleasantly discovered that when I did an update from 10.2. I decided when I had 9.3, and upgraded to 10.2, to add some disks and install on a fresh root. This time, I installed 10.3 cleanly on the old and reformatted former 9.3 / (home is on its own). It obviously scanned the 10.2 root and copied over all the users, saving me a ton of work. Next time I will just upgrade 11 over the 10.2 root. I remember how long it took to re-enter everyone when I upgraded to 8.0. Well done! -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
Hi all! I am trying to migrate an imap dovecot-fedora server to an imap cyrus-suse. However, I do not know how to migrate the current emails and folders. Could anyone point me to somewhere where to find more information? Does anyone knows about tools for doing that? greetings, jordi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OOffice and sound in Impress [SOLVED]
On 19 November 2007 11:26, Lívio Cipriano wrote: Hi all, I'm using OO 2.0.4 in openSUSE 10.2 and I can't play a sound or music during a Impress presentation. Did I misconfigure the sound system or is a feature of Impress in Linux. In Windows works. -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano I just installed the fmj - Free replacement for the JMF (Java Media Framework) FMJ is an open-source project with the goal of providing a replacement or alternative to Java Media Framework (JMF). It aims to produce a single API/Framework which can be used to capture, playback, process and stream media across multiple platforms. and it worked. -- Regards, Lívio Cipriano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Eberhard Roloff wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Not only did I quit buying from RedHat -- I quit USING RedHat, too. I see that Novell's decision to imitate RedHat is causing my worst fears to be realized with the SuSE distro -- the one distro that I want...which I'm willing to pay around $100 US for... is not getting supported properly, and it's sounding like, even for the cost of burning a download, the value-proposition is somewhat iffy. This is totally sad. I've been a die-hard SuSE fan since the 6.x days, and I've forked over probably $400 over the years for the various incarnations which are now the opensuse distribution. Reviewing the boxes and manuals laying around the room, it looks like I spent about US $600 on Suse Professional distributions since the 6.x days. That is a lot of money. Not really Otoh, imagine you started to use Windows in the Suse 6.x days. How much would you have spent on this? For the same amount of software? $500,000 easily. Database engines that don't fall over just because 50 people are accessing the database are quite expensive in MS land. If you review those two figures, it gets clear, that opensuse cannot be the foundation for the Novell Business while windows licenses are (part of) the foundation for the MS business- Look at the figures above. So as sad as it is, we do not pay (sufficiently) for the software that we use. Therefore, our influence on it's development is very limited, financewise. I'm more than happy to pay $$$ to SuSE to put out a good distro. Kind regards Eberhard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: Dňa Wednesday 21 November 2007 05:36:35 Aaron Kulkis ste napísal: This is why smart people make /home, /opt, and /local to be separate filesystems (or at least make /local a symbolic link to something like /home/local and/or /opt to be a symbolic link to /home/opt.) This should be the DEFAULT set-up for a new installation, because the uninitiated has absolutely no idea that having /home, /local and /opt on the root filesystem is setting them up for major headaches when they want to install the system. AFAIK /home is by default on a different partition. The other ones are rather special for people installing a lots of additional software. In fact, in the install, it would be REALLY super-nice if I could specify the creation of any symbolic links and target directories before ANY packages are installed. This sounds like super-expert stuff. You can do it with add-on product, but I don't think this will be ever implemented. No, I doubt it ever will be... it's a wish list item. BTW, what add-on product is going to do this in the middle of installation? For example, I might not want /var/fonts on the /var partition... but would instead, prefer to put it in some place like /opt/fonts or /local/fonts ) Right now, it involves doing the install, then going into single user mode, moving the fonts directory and creating the symbolic link from /var/fonts to /local/fonts... Not much of a problem on all IDE systems, but when you're dealing with SCSI disks, partition size can still be a factor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
Dňa Wednesday 21 November 2007 11:17:02 Aaron Kulkis ste napísal: Stanislav Visnovsky wrote: Dňa Wednesday 21 November 2007 05:36:35 Aaron Kulkis ste napísal: This is why smart people make /home, /opt, and /local to be separate filesystems (or at least make /local a symbolic link to something like /home/local and/or /opt to be a symbolic link to /home/opt.) This should be the DEFAULT set-up for a new installation, because the uninitiated has absolutely no idea that having /home, /local and /opt on the root filesystem is setting them up for major headaches when they want to install the system. AFAIK /home is by default on a different partition. The other ones are rather special for people installing a lots of additional software. In fact, in the install, it would be REALLY super-nice if I could specify the creation of any symbolic links and target directories before ANY packages are installed. This sounds like super-expert stuff. You can do it with add-on product, but I don't think this will be ever implemented. No, I doubt it ever will be... it's a wish list item. BTW, what add-on product is going to do this in the middle of installation? For example, I might not want /var/fonts on the /var partition... but would instead, prefer to put it in some place like /opt/fonts or /local/fonts ) Right now, it involves doing the install, then going into single user mode, moving the fonts directory and creating the symbolic link from /var/fonts to /local/fonts... Not much of a problem on all IDE systems, but when you're dealing with SCSI disks, partition size can still be a factor. What you can do is to add additional steps during the installation to do whatever you need to do. You can do it easily for autoyast, for normal install,you need to create an add-on product with a workflow. Stano -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] amarok playlist
primm wrote: On Tuesday 20 November 2007 04:41:23 Chee How Chua wrote: On Nov 20, 2007 10:54 AM, Joe Sloan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: clarge wrote: I think the problem is like mine. If I import and album into the play list and start to play the songs. It will just stop playing at one of the songs. start it again and it will play another few songs and then quite. Just won't complete a full play list. Yes, I've seen that problem, it appears to be a bug in the audio plugins shipped with the suse version of amarok. A trip to packman for a proper update of the multimedia stuff will set that right. Just go to the amarok configuration and choose the xine engine after you've updated all your multimedia stuff. Joe I'll back that up. Had the same problem till I changed to Xine. I prefer Xine anyway, the cross-fading effect is cool. Thanks. I now have a proper packman amarok which does exactly what I want. The SuSE version doesn't work very well at all. Thanks to all for your patience on what I sense is a trivial matter. Lynn x It's only a trivial matter if it's someone else's problem. Don Henson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Questions on 32-bit v. 64-bit
Hi guys, When I install openSUSE, how does it know whether it should install a 32-bit kernel or a 64-bit kernel? Does any part of the installation reflect that? The complication arises when the system originally has 2GB RAM but will later on be increased to 8GB RAM. If the installed kernel had been 32-bit, is it possible to upgrade the whole installation to 64-bit to support the increase in RAM? Let's take for example the Xeon 5130 processor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions on 32-bit v. 64-bit
Hi, I think that if you are sure about the architecture and the installation Media, then go for 64bit. However I would PERSONALLY say that do not try to go for 64 bit unless you are very sure about the installation disk or architecture. However, I have heard (though not tested it myself) that upgrading to 64 bit LATER ON may create complications. On Nov 21, 2007 7:07 PM, Chee How Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, When I install openSUSE, how does it know whether it should install a 32-bit kernel or a 64-bit kernel? Does any part of the installation reflect that? The complication arises when the system originally has 2GB RAM but will later on be increased to 8GB RAM. If the installed kernel had been 32-bit, is it possible to upgrade the whole installation to 64-bit to support the increase in RAM? Let's take for example the Xeon 5130 processor. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- There are 10 kinds of people in the world - those who understand binary ... and those who don't! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions on 32-bit v. 64-bit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Дана среда 21 новембар 2007, Chee How Chua је написао(ла): Hi guys, When I install openSUSE, how does it know whether it should install a 32-bit kernel or a 64-bit kernel? If you downloaded 64bit CD or DVD it will install 64bit kernel as well as 64bit applications with some 32bit packages (mostly libraries for supporting 32bit-only applications such as flash plugin). The complication arises when the system originally has 2GB RAM but will later on be increased to 8GB RAM. Nice :) I want 8GB RAM :) If the installed kernel had been 32-bit, is it possible to upgrade the whole installation to 64-bit to support the increase in RAM? In short: no. In longer answer: maybe you could change the master architecture in /etc/zypper/* and install tons of packages over the running system and then reboot into 64bit, but I don't think that would be a smart idea. It is much better to backup whatever configuration files you have (assuming you have /home in a separate partition which is a sane choice), wipe your root partition and install 64bit openSUSE. - -- Filip Brcic [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWWeb: http://purl.org/NET/brcha/home/ Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRDwpeugpoxYs6H8RAk0NAKDEH2OehUXpaNRSCoXenJBDM7AeAACgmAyE CFwahu/Trk9H46JivJPk7To= =19Ds -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] addresses
On Tuesday 20 November 2007 23:08:26 Doug McGarrett wrote: Using SuSE 9.3: There are a bunch of bad adresses in KMail, which are almost surely my own fault, but where are these stored, and how can I correct or eliminate them? Not sure this will work in 9.3, but worth a try. Try opening a compose window, right click in the To: field, and select Edit recent addresses. HTH, -- Jim Barnes -- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.-Lazarus Long -- Linux 2.6.20-16-generic -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Questions on 32-bit v. 64-bit
On Wed, 21 Nov 2007 21:37:09 +0800 Chee How Chua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, When I install openSUSE, how does it know whether it should install a 32-bit kernel or a 64-bit kernel? Does any part of the installation reflect that? 'uname -a' will show you whether you have a 32-bit or 64-bit kernel. The 64-bit kernel should show up as x86_64 where a 32-bit kernel will show up as i386 (and possibly the CPU type, such as athalon). The complication arises when the system originally has 2GB RAM but will later on be increased to 8GB RAM. If the installed kernel had been 32-bit, is it possible to upgrade the whole installation to 64-bit to support the increase in RAM? Upgrading from a 32-bit system to a 64-bit system is dangerous. The x86_64 architecture supports 32-bit, but you need a kernel that supports the 32-bit environment (Linux does) and a set of libraries for both 32-bit and 64-bit. You are much better doing a clean install of a 64-bit system when you can schedule it, then when you upgrade to 8GB your kernel will support it. -- Jerry Feldman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Boston Linux and Unix user group http://www.blu.org PGP key id:C5061EA9 PGP Key fingerprint:053C 73EC 3AC1 5C44 3E14 9245 FB00 3ED5 C506 1EA9 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
On 2007-11-21 10:54:45 +0100, Jordi Massaguer wrote: I am trying to migrate an imap dovecot-fedora server to an imap cyrus-suse. However, I do not know how to migrate the current emails and folders. Could anyone point me to somewhere where to find more information? Does anyone knows about tools for doing that? why not migrate it to a suse-dovecot server? always update packages for dovecot can be found at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/ darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-11-21 10:54:45 +0100, Jordi Massaguer wrote: I am trying to migrate an imap dovecot-fedora server to an imap cyrus-suse. However, I do not know how to migrate the current emails and folders. Could anyone point me to somewhere where to find more information? Does anyone knows about tools for doing that? I moved from cyrus to Scalix (Exchange replacement) using a tool called imapsync. Best part is that it's intelligent and only copies messages that aren't already present. That means you can do it on the live mailstore and have a relatively quick redo when the mailstore is disconnected. Kevin Thorpe, Purchasing Index (UK) Ltd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
On Wed, Nov 21, 2007 at 09:50:25AM +0100, Eberhard Roloff wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Aaron Kulkis wrote: Not only did I quit buying from RedHat -- I quit USING RedHat, too. I see that Novell's decision to imitate RedHat is causing my worst fears to be realized with the SuSE distro -- the one distro that I want...which I'm willing to pay around $100 US for... is not getting supported properly, and it's sounding like, even for the cost of burning a download, the value-proposition is somewhat iffy. This is totally sad. I've been a die-hard SuSE fan since the 6.x days, and I've forked over probably $400 over the years for the various incarnations which are now the opensuse distribution. Reviewing the boxes and manuals laying around the room, it looks like I spent about US $600 on Suse Professional distributions since the 6.x days. That is a lot of money. Otoh, imagine you started to use Windows in the Suse 6.x days. How much would you have spent on this? If you review those two figures, it gets clear, that opensuse cannot be the foundation for the Novell Business while windows licenses are (part of) the foundation for the MS business- So as sad as it is, we do not pay (sufficiently) for the software that we use. Therefore, our influence on it's development is very limited, financewise. No, not at all, for SuSE didn't pay (sufficiently) for the software that they sell :) And, your influence on its development is far greater than any closed operating system, as you can talk directly to the developers, and actually contribute code and features to it if you want to. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Demand for an Americas KDE meeting?
Dear all As you know we hold a biweekly KDE meeting. We're thinking of holding the next meeting (28 Nov) at a time to suit those of you in the Americas - probably 2200GMT = 6pm EST, 7pm CST, 3pm PST. Would this be useful to you http://home.kde.org/~binner/kde-four-live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-0.7.iso.torrent fnord or should we keep it at the Eurasian friendly time of 1700UTC? Please answer here or mail me privately. The following meeting will be back at the usual time, anyway. best Will -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer K Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Reading SDP memory data
Hi, looking at this topic found a Windows app (http://www.techpowerup.com/spdtool/) that can query/modify this data but can't find a way to query it on linux, hwinfo doesn't have that info and can't find anything alike on /proc. Comments? Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RAID5 Power outages
2007/10/27, Rui Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Ciro, Try to think of a RAID Array as a single partition. You put a filesystem on top of a partition or a RAID Array. I know it's logically a partition/disk, but the important bit there is logically, a real partition won't melt down or break into multiple unusable peaces. If the power fails, the -partition- DOES survive. The filesystem may have inconsistencies but it is probably recoverable. It is the same principle ( almost ) with a Soft-RAID array. If you have frequent power loss, IMHO, you should activate RAID write-intent bitmapping. The command is mdadm /dev/mdX -Gb internal That's what i'm talking about, i wonder if that has a performance penalty. This is the result of the last power outage: mainwks:~ # cat /proc/mdstat Personalities : [raid1] [raid0] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [linear] md0 : active raid1 sda1[0] sdb1[1] 104320 blocks [2/2] [UU] md1 : active raid1 sda3[0] sdb3[1] 241987008 blocks [2/2] [UU] [==..] resync = 11.0% (26760192/241987008) finish=315.0min speed=11384K/sec I assume that would look really nasty on a big raid5... If you are afraid about a RAID's inconsistency by issuing echo check /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action and check for failures wiht cat /sys/block/mdX/md/mismatch_cnt. If there are failures, correct it with echo repair /sys/block/mdX/md/sync_action You can also put it on a cron script... Hope it helps, Rui I will look further on the bitmapping topic. Thanks a lot Ciro -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] migrating imap dovecot to cyrus
Marcus Rueckert wrote: On 2007-11-21 10:54:45 +0100, Jordi Massaguer wrote: I am trying to migrate an imap dovecot-fedora server to an imap cyrus-suse. However, I do not know how to migrate the current emails and folders. Could anyone point me to somewhere where to find more information? Does anyone knows about tools for doing that? why not migrate it to a suse-dovecot server? always update packages for dovecot can be found at http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/server:/mail/ Exactly what I was going to say - dovecot on suse works marvelously for us, and unless you wanted a career as a cyrus administrator, I can't think of why you'd want to move the users to cyrus. Joe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
Stephan Binner wrote: On Tuesday, 20. November 2007 18:18:43 Ben Kevan wrote: I just upgraded to 3.96.00 which I thought would have been the desktop RC1, but it seems as though it's still labeled Beta 4 (Strange today was That was an oversight upstream, if it says it's 3.96 then it's RC 1. If you really care about this single string you can reupdate packages from KDE:KDE4. Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Conversions
Richard Creighton wrote: I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? Thanks in advance, Richard As I understand it, there is nothing else that can work with Publisher files, other than Publisher. -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Дана среда 21 новембар 2007, Philippe Landau је написао(ла): Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? KDE 4.0 is a complete rewrite of the KDE using Qt4 library. It introduces various improvements (go look techbase.kde.org), but it is still untested. I wouldn't be too hasty with tagging KDE4 as buggy software. I'd say that due to the complete rewrite of the API, KDE4 ought to have much less (serious) bugs than KDE4. What remains to be done is mostly polishing. Plasma desktop and applets are completely new and they are behind the schedule (let's say plasma is at betaX), but most of the other apps work fine right now and could be considered as rc1. - -- Filip Brcic [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWWeb: http://purl.org/NET/brcha/home/ Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHRHn4eugpoxYs6H8RAjySAKDvlwnALmRml0qfRUPvAssYcDRYEQCfdLSN L+3lR0b3+pqVVbzYpdtxfXU= =4xqJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] good notebook
I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Thanks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Conversions
I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? Thanks in advance, Richard -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] OpenOffice frozen at save command
On Tuesday 13 November 2007, Hans defaber wrote: hi folks, Suse 10.3 and the last version of openoffice. Sometimes I have to write a letter and want to use openoffice. but this time since some months it went wrong nice letter and save (or save as) it. At that moment the wordprocessor freezes completely the only thing I can do is logoff. I logged in as root, same problem I removed and re-installed open office, same problem I set back my 'immidiate after update to 10.3' imagebackup back, same problem I deleted the ooo-2.0 directory in my homedir, same problem. Has anybody an idea wat it can be ? It might be the bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=333815. It should work after you install the OpenOffice_org-kde package. If it does not help, please report a bug. As a workaround, you might try to enable the check box Tools/Options.../OpenOffice.org/General/Use OpenOffice.org dialogs. Note that I would like to fix the bug #333815 in a next maintenance update. -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Openoffice error after update
On Wednesday 14 November 2007, Hans defaber wrote: This is problem is yesterday mailed as openoffice freezes at save command. I re-edited the problem Used: Suse 10.3(x86-64) openoffice 2.3.0 I have upgraded my system from suse 10.2 to suse 10.3 After the upgrade i have the following problem using the wordprocessor or writing spreadsheets (other functionality not tested). 1. The exit command does nothing (menu File Exit or ctrl Q) 2. The save or save-as command freezes the whole application, logoff is the only solution. I believe that the exit command problem is related to the freeze. If there is a part of OOo freezed, the behavior of the whole application is undefined... -- Best Regards, Petr Mladek software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 952 190 00 Prague 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Demand for an Americas KDE meeting?
Will Stephenson wrote: Dear all As you know we hold a biweekly KDE meeting. Gee. I never knew that. ;-) -- Use OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Conversions
On Wednesday 21 November 2007, Richard Creighton wrote: I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? Thanks in advance, Richard I don't know Publisher that well, except it's a program people shouldn't use because of how bad it is. As with most things MS, they don't leave you many outs when using their software. One of their ways of locking the user into their programs. But, I digress! ;-) If she is able to use Publisher to print out the files to a postscript file, she should be able to reuse the files in either OOo or Scribus. Scribus, now there's another train wreck! Anyway, converting them to postscript should make them easier to handle. She may still have to do a bit of tweaking, but they will at least be in a better format. good luck, Lee -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Conversions
Richard Creighton wrote: I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? the only thing I know that can give something (but extremely ugly) is to export in html jdd -- http://www.dodin.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
El mié, 21-11-2007 a las 19:02 +0100, Philippe Landau escribió: Stephan Binner wrote: On Tuesday, 20. November 2007 18:18:43 Ben Kevan wrote: I just upgraded to 3.96.00 which I thought would have been the desktop RC1, but it seems as though it's still labeled Beta 4 (Strange today was That was an oversight upstream, if it says it's 3.96 then it's RC 1. If you really care about this single string you can reupdate packages from KDE:KDE4. Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? Kind regards Philippe Sorry to bother, but kde4, even fresh RC1 (I suppose) is unable to run. If within two weeks is the final date to release stable and final 4.0, is a very short time to fix this mess. It's my opinion, anyway. Thanks, AOP. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: good notebook
Jack Malone wrote: I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Thanks http://new.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Acer9410z this one is very good (modem and IR not tested) the only problem I have for now is the caps lock led not working :-)) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hudibras schreef: El mié, 21-11-2007 a las 19:02 +0100, Philippe Landau escribió: Stephan Binner wrote: On Tuesday, 20. November 2007 18:18:43 Ben Kevan wrote: I just upgraded to 3.96.00 which I thought would have been the desktop RC1, but it seems as though it's still labeled Beta 4 (Strange today was That was an oversight upstream, if it says it's 3.96 then it's RC 1. If you really care about this single string you can reupdate packages from KDE:KDE4. Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? Kind regards Philippe Sorry to bother, but kde4, even fresh RC1 (I suppose) is unable to run. If within two weeks is the final date to release stable and final 4.0, is a very short time to fix this mess. It's my opinion, anyway. Thanks, AOP. What you could try is back-up ~/.kde4 to fi ~/.kde4-backup, and let these files renew themselves.. This is what worked for me few weeks ago.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRJSlX5/X5X6LpDgRAjzQAJ9V7sGmByPOvQygQpBrRzoXuggU+gCfS3jx kaP2oAn36LkqDHFhGla7zxg= =bjXY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: good notebook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 jdd schreef: Jack Malone wrote: I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Thanks http://new.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Acer9410z this one is very good (modem and IR not tested) the only problem I have for now is the caps lock led not working :-)) jdd Helas is the Acer service realy bad ;-( It took me 4 months (!) to get a new powerbrick...for an Aspire 1710.. (but the new toshibas are allright, broken screen replaced, Pick-up and deliver fixed within 12 days, ) - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRJcMX5/X5X6LpDgRAkbpAKCUvW1Q/KErr3cxHTkPaunoEqmQaQCeLAyA aE20pL38v4ScJXOH4/7sZjA= =3a+y -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:33:19 am Filip Brcic wrote: Дана среда 21 новембар 2007, Philippe Landau је написао(ла): Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? KDE 4.0 is a complete rewrite of the KDE using Qt4 library. It introduces various improvements (go look techbase.kde.org), but it is still untested. I wouldn't be too hasty with tagging KDE4 as buggy software. I'd say that due to the complete rewrite of the API, KDE4 ought to have much less (serious) bugs than KDE4. What remains to be done is mostly polishing. Plasma desktop and applets are completely new and they are behind the schedule (let's say plasma is at betaX), but most of the other apps work fine right now and could be considered as rc1. But unfortunatly what we see is Plasma and the Plasmoids giving us the impression of a very unusable work space. I have been running KDE 4 for a while now on a Dev box for many daily tasks and like you said many of the apps are solid.. but what holds them all (Plamsa) is far from even the Polishing stage. KNotes isn't ready (doesn't have the Fancy look as it did previously due to differences in QT4), Dolphin Folder icons etc (in Oxygen) are not all scalable. KPercentage is unusable due to font coloring and background coloring. KDESU is broken and they have moved the binary so you have to point to it (they should move it or at least add a symlink so that all users can use it). Oxygen themes menu's are Floating when the optoin you clicked should get highlighted. Some of those are more then Polishing to me. Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Mittwoch 21 November 2007, Ben Kevan wrote: KNotes isn't ready (doesn't have the Fancy look as it did previously due to differences in QT4), Dolphin Folder icons etc (in Oxygen) are not all scalable. KPercentage is unusable due to font coloring and background coloring. KDESU is broken and they have moved the binary so you have to point to it (they should move it or at least add a symlink so that all users can use it). Oxygen themes menu's are Floating when the optoin you clicked should get highlighted. Some of those are more then Polishing to me. Yeah and what's about kicker or a kicker replacement? Actual screenshots looks like something is broken. Like here: http://home.kde.org/%7Ebinner/kde-four-live/ The taskbar is looking like of version 1 of KDE! The icons must be nearly of the same size as the fonts. Ugly, hope that will be replaced! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] good notebook
From: Jack Malone I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Linux on Laptops maintains reports of linux compatibility for a wide variety of laptops: http://www.linux-on-laptops.com I have recently installed openSuse on several Dell notebooks -- an Inspiron 1501, a 1505, and a Precision M90. They all work well with openSuse 10.2/10.3 out of the box. The Precision M90 is older hardware and worked particularly well: http://www.kenjennings.cc/m90/M90_openSuse_10_2.html -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 19:02:51 Philippe Landau wrote: Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ That's Beineri's personal opinion. Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, I'll assume you are mixing usability with functionality. ? if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? short version You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. long version Sure, KDE 4.0 is less functional in some areas than KDE 3.5.8. We (the KDE developers as well as the SUSE KDE team) know it's not possible to port to Qt 4, rework all of the foundations of KDE 3, add new technologies, maintain the features and polish of KDE 3.5.8, and release in a reasonable period. It doesn't work out. Look at the last item in that list. If you fulfil every other item, by the time you release would be irrelevant. There are plenty of Free Software projects you can think of as examples of this, but no names, no pack drill. One of the signs of Free Software's success is that people now accept it on the same terms as any other product. They want it to be great, perfect and better in every way, and in time for Christmas. Unfortunately, it is not the same as other products. A large part of the process is getting people out there using it, finding the bugs and being inspired to actively join projects. In this way we gain the manpower needed to make our software great. Unfortunately, to do this you have to release. We've been putting out alphas and betas for several months now, and they have not attracted the mass uptake required to get KDE 4 over the threshold - despite many of the apps being usable. So, a project has to compromise. Some do it by releasing never (see above). Others are equally conservative, but choose to compromise on features and innovation. KDE chooses as a project to accept that KDE 4.0 != KDE 3.5.8 - it's better in many ways, worse in some [very visible] others. Most of us feel that this will see acceptance and create enough momentum to make KDE 4.1 and its successors exceed KDE 3 and establish the basis for the next 10* years of the Free Software desktop. Some don't, but that's ok, KDE is a friendly project and consists of many diverse points of view. And we're seeing that this strategy works - the volume of downloads of RC1 is several times that of any of the earlier betas and IRC action is up a lot. The bottom line for the openSUSE user is that you won't be forced into accepting buggy software in the form of KDE 4.0. The next openSUSE release will include a later version, and experience shows that for all the rotten tomatoes 4.0 will get (as well as some praise hopefully) KDE 4 will improve extremely rapidly and the next openSUSE will reflect that. Everyone is welcome to try the packages from KDE:KDE4 in the buildservice and the liveCDs and help us make it great sooner, but if the compromise I described above is unacceptable for you, wait it out, watch and join us at 4.0.x or 4.1. Oh, and this is my personal opinion, but I think others share it too. Will *Actually 11, we started this business on 14 Oct 1996, but 10 flowed better. -- Will Stephenson Desktop Engineer Interfaces and Applications -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Re: good notebook
I went with a dell latitude D830N Will see what happens when I get in a week or so. thanks all Jack jdd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/07 2:23 PM Jack Malone wrote: I'm needing to spend money this week on a notebook. I'm planning on running both opensuse an SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop it. Can someone here running Linux on a new laptop care to share what model you have. I'm trying to spend the money while I have the permission to spend an need to buy before end of week. Thanks http://new.dodin.org/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Main.Acer9410z this one is very good (modem and IR not tested) the only problem I have for now is the caps lock led not working :-)) jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3 Review
On 11/21/2007 jdd wrote: and about of popularity, don't forget the most popular distribution now (ubuntu) is * debian based with the good of Debian but openSUSE friendlyness * send for free as many cd's as one want anywhere in the world... The only gripe I have with Ubuntu is a tool like Yast, and Sax. Those two would be high on my wish list. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Converting CPU temp in sysinfo:/
Is it possable to change the CPU temperature reading in sysino:/ from reading in Celsius to Fahrenheit? Its not hard to do the conversion myself but I think it would be nice to have it reading in Fahrenheit, which is what I am use to. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] SAMBA options definitions
When using YaST2 to configure Samba shares, there are many many options available. Where can I get just a simple list of definitions for each option? Man samba or smb.conf doesn't offer a complete listing. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SAMBA options definitions
On 11/22/2007 07:31 AM, Bryen wrote: When using YaST2 to configure Samba shares, there are many many options available. Where can I get just a simple list of definitions for each option? Man samba or smb.conf doesn't offer a complete listing. I would suggest installing (if it isn't) samba-doc for the documentation, and the easiest way to get the details for each setting is to use swat, i.e. enable it in xinted and point a browser to http://localhost:901 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Converting CPU temp in sysinfo:/
Adam Jimerson wrote: Is it possable to change the CPU temperature reading in sysino:/ from reading in Celsius to Fahrenheit? Its not hard to do the conversion myself but I think it would be nice to have it reading in Fahrenheit, which is what I am use to. Well, I'm sure the underlying gadgetry is sensors which is really lm-sensors. Try running the KSensors frontend and right-click the icon, select configure, select the preferences tab and here you can select what units to display. This may or may not change what is displayed in the sysinfo:/ screen; I myself do not see temperature here so I cannot test this idea. As a bonus, if all you are looking for is temperature monitoring, then the KSensors program itself may be your solution. --Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
El mié, 21-11-2007 a las 21:27 +0100, M9. escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hudibras schreef: El mié, 21-11-2007 a las 19:02 +0100, Philippe Landau escribió: Stephan Binner wrote: On Tuesday, 20. November 2007 18:18:43 Ben Kevan wrote: I just upgraded to 3.96.00 which I thought would have been the desktop RC1, but it seems as though it's still labeled Beta 4 (Strange today was That was an oversight upstream, if it says it's 3.96 then it's RC 1. If you really care about this single string you can reupdate packages from KDE:KDE4. Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? Kind regards Philippe Sorry to bother, but kde4, even fresh RC1 (I suppose) is unable to run. If within two weeks is the final date to release stable and final 4.0, is a very short time to fix this mess. It's my opinion, anyway. Thanks, AOP. What you could try is back-up ~/.kde4 to fi ~/.kde4-backup, and let these files renew themselves.. This is what worked for me few weeks ago.. ;-) - -- Have a nice day, Thanks for your answer. Yes, indeed. I've done it so many times I can't recall them all... And nothing. It's always the same story. I've even deleted the whole .kde4 directory. What else? Bye, AOP. M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.22.5-31-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systeem: openSUSE 10.3 (x86_64) KDE: 3.5.8 release 21.2 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4-svn0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHRJSlX5/X5X6LpDgRAjzQAJ9V7sGmByPOvQygQpBrRzoXuggU+gCfS3jx kaP2oAn36LkqDHFhGla7zxg= =bjXY -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SAMBA options definitions
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 07:45 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 11/22/2007 07:31 AM, Bryen wrote: When using YaST2 to configure Samba shares, there are many many options available. Where can I get just a simple list of definitions for each option? Man samba or smb.conf doesn't offer a complete listing. I would suggest installing (if it isn't) samba-doc for the documentation, and the easiest way to get the details for each setting is to use swat, i.e. enable it in xinted and point a browser to http://localhost:901 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 Never mind... I misread your email. Now that I've tried SWAT, I see cool option explanations. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] SAMBA options definitions
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 07:45 +0800, Joe Morris (NTM) wrote: On 11/22/2007 07:31 AM, Bryen wrote: When using YaST2 to configure Samba shares, there are many many options available. Where can I get just a simple list of definitions for each option? Man samba or smb.conf doesn't offer a complete listing. I would suggest installing (if it isn't) samba-doc for the documentation, and the easiest way to get the details for each setting is to use swat, i.e. enable it in xinted and point a browser to http://localhost:901 -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 running openSUSE 10.3 x86_64 Still not what I'm looking for, although some of the options listed in YaST can be found scattered about in the documentation. I just need a simple quick list reference of what each option is, not hunting all over the documents to find that option. -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Conversions
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:19:50 Richard Creighton wrote: I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? The only thing I've been able to do is get MS Publisher 2000 running under CrossOver Linux (currently 6.2). I'll be following the answers to your question with a great deal of interest. Actually, regardless of what others say, I do find Pubisher quite easy to use, something I can't say yet about Scribus. I wish there were more newsletter templates for it. -- Bob Smits [EMAIL PROTECTED] A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
Thank you to all the list members, you are so considerate and helpful, a great experience that has become rare online and testifies to many great people cultivating kindness over years. Filip Brcic wrote: KDE 4.0 is a complete rewrite of the KDE using Qt4 library. It introduces various improvements (go look techbase.kde.org), but it is still untested. I wouldn't be too hasty with tagging KDE4 as buggy software. I'd say that due to the complete rewrite of the API, KDE4 ought to have much less (serious) bugs than KDE4. Great, thanks to all developers. Will Stephenson wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2007 19:02:51 Philippe Landau wrote: Stephan Binner has announced the availability of KDE Four Live 0.7, an openSUSE-based live CD featuring the newly released KDE 4.0 RC1. One interesting point of the announcement is the author's frustration over the quality of KDE 4, expressing strong doubts about the suitability of KDE 4.0 final for production use http://distrowatch.com/ Originally a version with limited usability was called alpha, I'll assume you are mixing usability with functionality. ? For me an app is usable when i can use it. If the front end is broken that can be hard for simple users. if they now call it release candidate that says a lot. Is buggy software good for business ? short version You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Right :-) And serving the omelette raw needs labeling to avoid disappointments :-) Even if it can be healthy as you describe: long version Sure, KDE 4.0 is less functional in some areas than KDE 3.5.8. We (the KDE developers as well as the SUSE KDE team) know it's not possible to port to Qt 4, rework all of the foundations of KDE 3, add new technologies, maintain the features and polish of KDE 3.5.8, and release in a reasonable period. It doesn't work out. Look at the last item in that list. If you fulfil every other item, by the time you release would be irrelevant. There are plenty of Free Software projects you can think of as examples of this, but no names, no pack drill. Right :-) One of the signs of Free Software's success is that people now accept it on the same terms as any other product. They want it to be great, perfect and better in every way, and in time for Christmas. Unfortunately, it is not the same as other products. A large part of the process is getting people out there using it, finding the bugs and being inspired to actively join projects. In this way we gain the manpower needed to make our software great. Unfortunately, to do this you have to release. We've been putting out alphas and betas for several months now, and they have not attracted the mass uptake required to get KDE 4 over the threshold - despite many of the apps being usable. Will, that's not because it lacks the RC label. That's because it was so hard to use for simple users. I'm just one of many, i look forward to KDE4 with great anticipation since months but as long as reviewers report serious problems i refrain from testing it. So, a project has to compromise. Some do it by releasing never (see above). Others are equally conservative, but choose to compromise on features and innovation. KDE chooses as a project to accept that KDE 4.0 != KDE 3.5.8 - it's better in many ways, worse in some [very visible] others. Most of us feel that this will see acceptance and create enough momentum to make KDE 4.1 and its successors exceed KDE 3 and establish the basis for the next 10* years of the Free Software desktop. Some don't, but that's ok, KDE is a friendly project and consists of many diverse points of view. Now that is great. Freedom of expression :-) Just the opposite of Ubuntu Canonical's New Age deception where everybody is subjugated to a (facilitated) consensus which imposes the group will (actually the will of the facilitator). And we're seeing that this strategy works - the volume of downloads of RC1 is several times that of any of the earlier betas and IRC action is up a lot. Great. You see most open source projects i used are very reluctant to fix bugs. Ubuntu for example over years refused to fix a bug where you could not empty the trash when you had write protected items in it. Thunderbird and many others made me give up reporting because they too never fixed important bugs. I understood it as part of a corporate attitude (AOL, Microsoft etc. making more money with buggy and crippled software). Is the KDE4 desktop also improving rapidly and would you recommend KDE4 RC1 to simple users already ? The bottom line for the openSUSE user is that you won't be forced into accepting buggy software in the form of KDE 4.0. The next openSUSE release will include a later version, and experience shows that for all the rotten tomatoes 4.0 will get (as well as some praise hopefully) KDE 4 will improve extremely rapidly and the next openSUSE will reflect that. Everyone is welcome
Re: [opensuse] Converting CPU temp in sysinfo:/
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 06:53:02 pm Jason Craig wrote: Adam Jimerson wrote: Is it possable to change the CPU temperature reading in sysino:/ from reading in Celsius to Fahrenheit? Its not hard to do the conversion myself but I think it would be nice to have it reading in Fahrenheit, which is what I am use to. Well, I'm sure the underlying gadgetry is sensors which is really lm-sensors. Try running the KSensors frontend and right-click the icon, select configure, select the preferences tab and here you can select what units to display. This may or may not change what is displayed in the sysinfo:/ screen; I myself do not see temperature here so I cannot test this idea. As a bonus, if all you are looking for is temperature monitoring, then the KSensors program itself may be your solution. --Jason Using KSensors did not effect sysinfo:/ but it does read in right units thanks. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] addresses
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 09:59, jim barnes wrote: On Tuesday 20 November 2007 23:08:26 Doug McGarrett wrote: Using SuSE 9.3: There are a bunch of bad adresses in KMail, which are almost surely my own fault, but where are these stored, and how can I correct or eliminate them? Not sure this will work in 9.3, but worth a try. Try opening a compose window, right click in the To: field, and select Edit recent addresses. HTH, -- Jim Barnes I can't find a compose window. Is it supposed to be in KMail, or somewhere else, and if so, where? This has to be a file, somewhere, and unless it's encripted, it should be possible to bring it up to date, or even just erase it, and start over. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] addresses
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 14:00, Jan Ritzerfeld wrote: Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2007 schrieb Doug McGarrett: [...] There are a bunch of bad adresses in KMail, which are almost surely my own fault, but where are these stored, and how can I correct or eliminate them? [...] ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc-[General]-Recent Addresses HTH Jan In either my directory, or as root, the answer is No such file or directory I'm running 9.3--don't know as that's the problem. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] RAID5 Power outages
Ciro Iriarte wrote: I assume that would look really nasty on a big raid5... A UPS battery costs less then 80 euro. It gives your computer 3 minutes to shut down properly. Kind regards Philippe -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 07:50:27 pm Philippe Landau wrote: Will, that's not because it lacks the RC label. That's because it was so hard to use for simple users. I'm just one of many, i look forward to KDE4 with great anticipation since months but as long as reviewers report serious problems i refrain from testing it. The problem with alpha, beta naming is real. The 10.3 was tested in relative small group until GM, and than with mass downloads more bugs become visible. The same I can tell for any previous version of openSUSE/SUSE Linux. People are afraid to install test versions. They do the very same as you stated: ... as long as reviewers report serious problems i refrain from testing it. Once software is released, everyone want to install it and then actually starts real testing. -- Regards, Rajko. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Conversions
Robert Smits wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2007 10:19:50 Richard Creighton wrote: I have a friend that has a huge investment in Microsoft Publisher files. She desperately would like to somehow be able to convert/import the projects into OpenOffice or other LINUX program like Scribus perhaps. Does anyone know of a program that can take a *.pub file and split it out into its' components or convert it into something OpenOffice or other package running under Linux can use? The only thing I've been able to do is get MS Publisher 2000 running under CrossOver Linux (currently 6.2). So the documents can be (painfully) converted by hand using Cut and Paste methods? OIf course, this whole situation demonstrates the problem with investing too much effort into creating data in closed formats in the first place. Your client/associate has nobody except herself to blame. I'll be following the answers to your question with a great deal of interest. Actually, regardless of what others say, I do find Pubisher quite easy to use, something I can't say yet about Scribus. I wish there were more newsletter templates for it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] nVidia GeForce 8500GT not active at boot after nvidia-xconfig tweak
Dear List Members, openSuSE 10.3 on x86_64 system with Intel Core2Duo CPU and nVidia GeForce 8500GT video card and ASUS P5K motherboard. Forgive the long post but I figure it will save time in the long run if I give as much info as possible at day one. Installation went well from downloaded and burned DVD iso. Updates not a problem. But 3D not enabled and I wanted to implement Xgl and Compix for use with medical imaging software - this will be a scientific workstation machine. Information on http://en.opensuse.org/NVIDIA suggested a one click approach to installing the new nVidia driver which theoretically activates 3D, allows Xgl and so forth. The one click method appeared to work correctly - no error messages. Subsequent instructions said to run nvidia-xconfig with some options. With each of the three invocations the xorg.conf file was overwritten - I expected this would be the case. There was one instance of screen went black and evidently lost synch during this process - IIRC it was during the first of the nvidia-xconfig operations but I could be wrong. That was the only unexpected event. So far no error messages or other abnormal behaviour. However upon logout and logon again, as per instructions, there was no video output from the nVidia card! SSH'ed into the machine and restored xorg.conf from a backup copy, restarted the X system (ctrl-alt-backspace) and had video again. Attempted to use sax2 to sort things out but similar results - had to SSH in again and rescue the system. And I still do not have 3D, nor can I get info out of glxinfo - claims the display 0:0 does not exist. Consequently things like glxgears do not run. At this point a cold boot. Disturbingly during the POST there was *no* video on screen. The card and monitor have dual (analogue and digital) connections but video did not appear on either. Once the POST was over and Linux took over things, I get the log-on screen. Subsequent cold starts repeat this behaviour - it is as if the video card has had a personality change and now only works in conjunction with the Linux OS and the nVidia drivers... it no longer functions stand alone with just the motherboard BIOS. I assume the on-board firmware has been tweaked by the actions of X, sax2 and/or nvidia-xconfig such that it is now reliant on the Linux environment.If so, is there a way forward which will allow the card to return to its native state from whence I can start afresh? I have seen reference on the web to others' experiences with nVidia and openSuSE which suggests that the one click method is sometimes inappropriate - for non-specific reasons. I am happy to use the long method such as running the nVidia installer in init3 mode (non graphical) and withstand the pain of Linux kernel upgrades if that in fact solves the problem :-) Your help and patience are appreciated! Kind regards, Denis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE updates smart
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 09:42:56 Phil Burness wrote: I'm running openSuSE 10.3 with KDE 3.5.8 release 21.2. I run smart on a regular basis but have not seen any updates to KDE for a long while. Not many changes are done to KDE3 packages anyway, much focus on KDE4 atm. Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] NFS misconfig problem w/files 2GB
On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 20:25 -0800, Linda Walsh wrote: I'm exporting some files (10GB files) via NFS from a 2.6.23.1-kernel, SuSE system, and mounting on another (same kernel). All of my files 2GB (not exactly sure if break point is at 2 or 4GB's, all the large files I look at on the source are over 20G) give stat errors over NFS. Both kernels have nfs v4 as well as v3 compiled in. I've heard v2 has a 2GB limit, but v3 should be fine. Have been playing with tags 'nfsvers=[3 or 4]' in the /etc/exports file, but exports doesn't recognize nfsver=4, and gives out of range error message on nfsver=3 saying allowed values are Min=1, Max=2. !? I'm not sure if it is using V3 or 4 (am trying to use 'tcp' tag as well, but not using the tcp isn't the prob, as that was the default before I started looking at this problem. I don't have problems over CIFS from a windows box, but so far, limited benchmarks show better linux-to-linux perf over NFS (assuming I stay under 2GB files, but that's sorta limiting...). Underlying filesystem on the server box is XFS -- been serving Win clients for years, so haven't had alot of experience using NFS, recently, since 2G files became fairly common place. Any ideas how I could be serving up NFS and not 2GB files with a modern kernel and client? *scratching head* ;^? Thanks, Linda I routinely move files 3 to 4 Gbytes from xfs to jfs system with no problems. I am running the 2.6.22 kernel thugh and using open suse 10.3 Could you list the /etc/exports file and the rpms associated with the nfs server and the nfs client. Another thing you could do is to enable automount and uncomment the /net. There you can try to copy a large file say your machine is hello via cp /net/hello/big.file /net/hello/big,file.copy This will help to determine if your nfs server is properly configured. -- Joseph Loo [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] nVidia GeForce 8500GT not active at boot after nvidia-xconfig tweak
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 20:49, Denis Brown wrote: Dear List Members, snip At this point a cold boot. Disturbingly during the POST there was *no* video on screen. The card and monitor have dual (analogue and digital) connections but video did not appear on either. Once the POST was over and Linux took over things, I get the log-on screen. Subsequent cold starts repeat this behaviour - it is as if the video card has had a personality change and now only works in conjunction with the Linux OS and the nVidia drivers... it no longer functions stand alone with just the motherboard BIOS. What is the vga= parameter in your grub menu, (/boot/grub/menu.lst). Try putting vga=normal there and see if you get the startup messages. Alternatively, what happens if boot in failsafe mode, any difference? -- Don -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] KDE4 usable?
On Thursday 22 November 2007 03:53:58 Rajko M. wrote: The problem with alpha, beta naming is real. People are afraid to install test versions. You don't fix that by calling something Release Candidate. In the case of 10.3, the Beta releases were imho usable. Most major problems were reported and fixed. Sadly some people started to test only when it was in Release Candidate state (note the difference to just calling it that) and expected new reports to get fixed when only blocker fixes were allowed. In the case of KDE 4.0, nobody tested/used it as daily desktop environment (in opposite to runing a single application) during the Beta releases. One observation was that people who participated in the KDE2 or KDE3 beta testing completely missed the KDE4 beta cycle (because it was as desktop environment unusable until recently). Why not just continue to have 2 or 3 months Betas? Bye, Steve -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] addresses
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 19:00, Doug McGarrett wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2007 09:59, jim barnes wrote: On Tuesday 20 November 2007 23:08:26 Doug McGarrett wrote: Using SuSE 9.3: There are a bunch of bad adresses in KMail, which are almost surely my own fault, but where are these stored, and how can I correct or eliminate them? Not sure this will work in 9.3, but worth a try. Try opening a compose window, right click in the To: field, and select Edit recent addresses. HTH, -- Jim Barnes I can't find a compose window. Is it supposed to be in KMail, or somewhere else, and if so, where? This has to be a file, somewhere, and unless it's encripted, it should be possible to bring it up to date, or even just erase it, and start over. --doug Assuming you have Kmail in focus, Compose window: As in I want to create an email. File New New message Now you're in a compose window. right click in the To: field, and select Edit recent addresses. HTH, -- jim barnes -- Certainly the game is rigged. Don't let that stop you; if you don't bet, you can't win.-Lazarus Long -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] nVidia GeForce 8500GT not active at boot after nvidia-xconfig tweak
At 01:24 PM 22/11/2007, Don Raboud wrote: On Wednesday 21 November 2007 20:49, Denis Brown wrote: Dear List Members, snip At this point a cold boot. Disturbingly during the POST there was *no* video on screen. The card and monitor have dual (analogue and digital) connections but video did not appear on either. Once the POST was over and Linux took over things, I get the log-on screen. Subsequent cold starts repeat this behaviour - it is as if the video card has had a personality change and now only works in conjunction with the Linux OS and the nVidia drivers... it no longer functions stand alone with just the motherboard BIOS. What is the vga= parameter in your grub menu, (/boot/grub/menu.lst). Try putting vga=normal there and see if you get the startup messages. Alternatively, what happens if boot in failsafe mode, any difference? Thanks Don. Will try the grub vga=normal parameter. I do not get a chance to boot in failsafe mode because I can see no video to know what to press / click. :-( Kind regards, Denis -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Package files
If I install a package from an online repository, through Yast or Smart, (as I have just installed MediaWiki), are those files kept so I could copy them to another PC and install, or are they deleted after a successful installation?? Thanks, John. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Package files
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 09:55:10 pm John Bennett wrote: If I install a package from an online repository, through Yast or Smart, (as I have just installed MediaWiki), are those files kept so I could copy them to another PC and install, or are they deleted after a successful installation?? Thanks, John. They are not saved and there has been talk in the mailing list about adding keeping the updates as an option. You can download the rpm file from the repository via HTTP if you wish.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo zypper search wiki root's password: * Reading installed packages [100%] S | Repository| Type| Name | Version | Arch --+---+-+---+---+--- | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/ | package | mediawiki | 1.10.0-32 | i586 | http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/openSUSE:10.3/standard/ | package | mediawiki-plugins | 1.7.1-105 | noarch Which tells me you can install from the CD / DVD Ben -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Mysql problem.
Hallo all, i have a big problem here with my server, after i upgraded mysql from 4 to 5, i found that there are two pid files in /var/lib/mysql which mean i have two mysql servers, and mysql is failing at startup with error regarding the .sock file, please help. Regards, Mahmoud Abdelsalam. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-packaging] Requires in -devel packages
Hi, while OBS reconfiguration and brief internal discussion, I figured out that we do use Requires: in -devel packages inconsistend atm. A -devel package should Require: all other packages what provides header files or other stuff needed at compile time. It should NOT require a compiler package like gcc or gcc-c++. Also not Require the SUSE only alias like c_compiler or c++-compiler. I know that our packages are inconsistend in this regard atm. bye adrian -- Adrian Schroeter SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-packaging] automatic BuildRequires and Requires
Hallo. I am just starting to work on my idea of automatic generating of devel BuildRequires and Requires. The goal is: - Increase quality of packages preventing unwanted failed checks and consequent building of feature stripped packages. - Drop obsolete dependencies (now added manually, removed after bug report) 1) As I wrote in past, I created a pkg-buildrequires package, which should help with automatic generating of BuildRequires. 2) Next idea would be automatic creating of devel Requires/Provides using information provided by pkg-config files. 1) Package pkg-buildrequires with a simple documentation is available for download from OBS home:sbrabec. https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?project=home%3Asbrabecpackage=pkg-buildrequires I just started to experiment with pkg-buildrequires it in OBS GNOME:UNSTABLE repository with it. https://build.opensuse.org/project/show?project=GNOME%3AUNSTABLE There is still a lot of failures, but low level packages (glib2, cairo, pango) are already built using pkg-buildrequires. It creates BuildRequires automatically in following form compatible with RPM: BuildRequires: list of packages added manually #BEGIN pkg-buildrequires # Created by pkg-buildrequires. Do not edit by hand. BuildRequires: list of packages added by pkg-buildrequires %define pkg_buildrequires_checksum b49abeb28e08721413a59a3d53324613 %define pkg_buildrequires_unknown_checksum cb977b8752a03a75a077316c2efdd439 #END pkg-buildrequires One checksum includes all needed packages. If the list changes, special type of failure will happen. It can be detected, BuildRequires automatically updated and package built again. Second (optional) checksum sums list of all failed pkg-config checks and its presence should confirm, that packager reviewed all failed checks and confirms, that it is correct. If this number changes, user will be notified to take manual action (i. e. add missing package, rebuild and update values). Currently I have no idea, how to do it better and still stay RPM compatible (i. e. in one step). 2) Second idea would require modification of %find_provides and %find_requires to provide/require symbols like PC(libIDL-2.0), which could create devel dependency chain automatically. I see no chance to convert these symbols to package names - if you are building two devel packages from one spec file, there is no way to generate dependencies between them - script does not know file lists of other sub-packages. I plan to extend my experiments in GNOME:UNSTABLE with this (not yet written) script. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer - SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lihovarská 1060/12tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republichttp://www.suse.cz/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-packaging] Re: [opensuse-gnome] automatic BuildRequires and Requires
On Wed, 2007-11-21 at 14:54 +0100, Stanislav Brabec wrote: I plan to extend my experiments in GNOME:UNSTABLE with this (not yet written) script. Maybe you should perform experiments in a different repository first -- I create experimental, unfit-for-use packages in home:maw:playground, for instance. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-wiki] Please delete /dev/null in german wiki
On Wednesday 21 November 2007 00:59:24 Christian Boltz wrote: Hello, on Dienstag, 20. November 2007, Martin Lasarsch wrote: [...] But really strange that the wiki accepts /dev/null as pagename. Indeed. IMHO it's worth a bugreport because it breaks wikis with nice pagetitles. Lars, since you invented this bug, please also open a bugreport at bugzilla.mediawiki.org. You can add a note that this still happens in 1.11, I tested on a local wiki. BTW: There is an easier way to reach this infamous page: http://de.opensuse.org/index.php?title=/dev/nullredirect=no It still has the redirect to Education/tmp2. Martin, please finally delete it using the above link ;-) done, thanks for the tip -- with kind regards, Martin Lasarsch, Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
