Re: [opensuse] openSUSE Server Version?!

2005-09-12 Thread Marco Maske
jdd wrote:
> Marco Maske wrote:
> > That's not the question if I need it. I wan't to learn to use it.
>
> you know, the main question is documentation.

That's one reason why I use SuSE. I'm german and there are many books 
about SuSE and from SuSE Press itself (now millin) here in german and in 
my house, too.

But now I read that the SLES 9 for ppc is for 64bit only. And I have a 
32bit ppc :-(

I think the main question for _me_ is an OS able to running on my hardware 
without compiling myself.

But I think we come off topic here and Christoph has the answer given for 
me.

Ciao Marco.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE Server Version?!

2005-09-12 Thread Marco Maske
Rasmus Plewe wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:47:10AM +0200, Marco Maske wrote:
> > I wish the SLES 9 eval version can payed (licenced) for one user,
> > home use or students for little money.
>
> I don't think that for these uses (one user, home use, students) you
> are really needing the added value of SLES over SUSE Linux.

That's not the question if I need it. I wan't to learn to use it.

The other thing is that the last SuSE for my RISC-mashine is SuSE Linux 
7.3. (O.K. Now OpenSUSE is able to running on an RS/6000 and I'm very 
happy about :-)

The SLES is aviable for more processor platforms than SuSE Linux.

Ciao Marco.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE Server Version?!

2005-09-12 Thread Marco Maske
Christoph Thiel wrote:
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Marco Maske wrote:
> > I wish the SLES 9 eval version can payed (licenced) for one user,
> > home use or students for little money.
>
> Check out: http://www.suse.de/edu/

Great :-) Thank you very much.

Bevor, I only know that for the desktop version.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE Server Version?!

2005-09-12 Thread Marco Maske
Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:

> Just for the record: the SLES 9 eval version available at
> http://download.novell.com/ contains the full set of 6 CDs, two of
> which contain the src rpms. To say SLES is not open source is a bit
> far-fetched - but it is aimed at earning money with it, that's true.

I wish the SLES 9 eval version can payed (licenced) for one user, home use 
or students for little money.

Ciao Marco.

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Re: [opensuse] openSUSE confusion

2005-09-12 Thread Marco Maske
Pascal Bleser wrote:

> There already _is_ an opensource version of SUSE Linux: that's the one
> you downloaded the ISOs on the internet, it's the "SUSE Linux OSS"
> distribution.
> It does _not_ include proprietary packages like Opera, Realplayer, ...

Yep, that was so since years. SuSE Linux comes on ftp for free download, 3 
month after selling, without some proprietary packets.

In the last SuSE 9.3 there also the Kernel rpm's are splitted in GPL and 
non GPL packages.

And now that is OpenSUSE you can get on ftp, bevor it's selling in shops,  
and the comunity can help to develop it.

> The "other" distribution is "SUSE Linux", sold as a boxed set (soon for
> 10.0, has been announced recently). It's actually the same as "SUSE
> Linux OSS" + some proprietary packages like Realplayer and Java.

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Re: [opensuse] Packages from a user and Packager perspective

2005-09-06 Thread Marco Maske
Pascal Bleser wrote:

> Quality is definately the most important aspect, much more important
> than quantity. And to me, quality is:
> - having dedicated maintainers that update their packages when new
> releases come out, when bugfixes are needed
> - having experienced packagers, who know their distro, who know how to
> integrate it well into SUSE - having clearly defined policies and style
> guides 

Yep, I agree 100%.

I think a group like Packman, where the quality is perfect since years and 
packagers who I know, (all of them are well known if you worked with SuSE 
for a while ;-) is a good way.
I can trust them, add their install source to Yast and import their key to 
my RPM-database.
Same with some suser on:
http://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/misc/suser-*/


This smaller groups can easier managed, look for Quality, licences and so 
on. I think their is no a need for one big SuSE/openSUSE RPM Pakager 
Group.
.. But for a global one SuSE/openSUSE RPM www archive, database

It's easier to make one point in www for this. All small Packager groups 
around the world can have a base here. The user can chose what he want 
and then add their installsources in Yast.
There can be one database for all packages from all packager groups with a 
uservoting like on http://www.kde-apps.org/

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