[opensuse] Re: Gnome mounting CD-ROM twice (was CD-ROM mounting twice)

2005-11-21 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Gnome is doing it somehow! When I switched from Fedora, I was using Gnome,
so I have always used Gnome with SuSE. I tried out KDE and the problem
didn't occur. I switched back to Gnome and the problem's back.

So, I changed the subject of the email :) How does Gnome handle
auto-mounting devices? I can't find anything meaningful in Gnome Control
Center or in Gnome Configuration Editor.

I originally knew the drive was mounting twice, but I didn't know anything
about HAL because I've always used autofs/automount in the past. I tried to
troubleshoot the problem myself at first. The first place I looked was in
/var/log/messages. So, when I saw two mounting messages there from HAL, I
believed that was the culprit.

Please read below...

On 11/21/05, Danny Kukawka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sunday 20 November 2005 17:06, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
  The log message shows that it has been mounted twice.

 No this log messages are left for debug. This is normal.

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
  ...
  /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
  (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
  /dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
  (ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

 This is not normal. What say your fstab in this case? And what say
 'cat /proc/mounts'?


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /etc/fstab
/dev/hda3 / reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/hda1 /boot reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts mode=0620,gid=5 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/dvdrecorder subfs users,noauto,fs=cdfss,ro
,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs noauto,fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0
0
none /subdomain subdomainfs noauto 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /home reiserfs acl,user_xattr 1 2

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ cat /proc/mounts
rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
initramfsdevs /dev tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hda3 / reiserfs rw 0 0
eventfs /lib/klibc/events tmpfs rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw,nodiratime 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/hda1 /boot reiserfs rw 0 0
/dev/hdb1 /home reiserfs rw 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy subfs rw,sync,nosuid,nodev 0 0
/dev/hdc /media/dvdrecorder subfs ro,nosuid,nodev 0 0

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ umount /media/dvdrecorder
  umount: it seems /media/dvdrecorder is mounted multiple times

 Yes, look so.

  I don't know the difference between MOUNT_POINT and MOUNTPOINT,
  but I suspect that my DVD drive is in a configuration file somewhere
  twice. I haven't been able to find documentation on this, though.

 See above, this is normal.

  Does anyone have any idea how to configure hal?

 Yes, but I think this is not a problem with hal. To be sure start 'lshal
 --monitor' and insert the cd. Wait 10 seconds and post the last lines
 after
 the monitor line.


You're right, it's not a problem with hal, but just in case...
*** lshal: device_added, udi='/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG'
*** lshal: property_modified, udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG, key= volume.mount_point
is_removed=false, is_added=false
*** new value: '/media/dvdrecorder' (string)

*** lshal: property_modified, udi=/org/freedesktop/Hal
/devices/volume_label_XP2_PER_ENG, key=volume.is_mounted
is_removed=false, is_added=false
*** new value: true (bool)

What happens if you start udevmonitor and insert the CD?


udevmonitor only shows one message...
home:~ # udevmonitor
udevmonitor prints the received event from the kernel [UEVENT]
and the event which udev sends out after rule processing [UDEV]

UEVENT[1132621639] mount@/block/hdc

... but it's still mounted twice ...
home:~ # mount
...
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

Danny

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Thanks,
Vince


Re: [opensuse] no keyboard with KDE

2005-11-21 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Problem solved!! Thanks Christian :)

I guess I'm a little late, though, since SuSE has now completely abandoned
KDE in favor of Gnome (-- WooHoo!!! Flames... Flames... I Love Flames!! :)
) ... heheh... just kidding... I haven't read any of the press releases and
I don't know anything about the status of SuSE and KDE.

On 11/21/05, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Does anyone have any ideas where to look?

 Did you try logging in as a newly created test user?


This is what did it :) I really should have thought to try this sooner.

When I created the new user and logged in, everything worked fine. So, I
renamed the .kde directory in my own home directory so that it would be
re-created the next time I started KDE and everything worked fine :) I'm not
sure what could've been in there to break it because I haven't used KDE
before.

Regards,

 Christian Boltz
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 Shit. Machst du 'nen Bugreport? :-)
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Re: [opensuse] CD-ROM mounting twice

2005-11-20 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
I'm sorry I didn't realize sooner that there was a response to this...

On 11/10/05, Danny Kukawka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thursday 10 November 2005 04:23, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
  HAL is (auto)mounting my DVD writer twice whenever I put a CD in.
  Here's from the /var/log/messages:
 
  Nov 10 11:02:00 home hal-subfs-mount[29729]: MOUNT_POINT::
  /media/dvdrecorder Nov 10 11:02:00 home hal-subfs-mount[29729]:
  MOUNTPOINT:: /media/dvdrecorder

 This is only a log message, there is no message that the device is mounted
 twice.

The log message shows that it has been mounted twice.

This is completely reproduceable.  Every time I put a CD or DVD into
my drive it's mounted twice and I cannot unmount or eject it without
switching to root first.

Here's a few more messages:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo tail /var/log/messages
...
Nov 20 23:48:55 home hal-subfs-mount[24353]: SYMLINKS::
disk/by-path/pci-:00:1f.1-ide-1:0 dvdrecorder cdrom dvd cdrecorder
Nov 20 23:48:55 home hal-subfs-mount[24353]: MOUNT_POINT:: /media/dvdrecorder
Nov 20 23:48:55 home hal-subfs-mount[24353]: MOUNTPOINT:: /media/dvdrecorder
Nov 20 23:48:55 home hal-subfs-mount[24353]: Collected mount options
and Called(0) /bin/mount -t subfs -o
fs=cdfss,ro,procuid,nosuid,nodev,exec,iocharset=utf8 /dev/hdc
/media/dvdrecorder
Nov 20 23:48:55 home kernel: ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
Nov 20 23:48:55 home kernel: ISOFS: changing to secondary root


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
...
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ umount /media/dvdrecorder
umount: it seems /media/dvdrecorder is mounted multiple times

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ eject
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
(the cd tray opens partially, then goes back in)

(still mounted twice ... :( )
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ mount
...
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)
/dev/hdc on /media/dvdrecorder type subfs
(ro,nosuid,nodev,fs=cdfss,procuid,iocharset=utf8)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo eject
(the cd tray opens partially, then goes back in ... but this time it's
not mounted anymore... temporarily :( )

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~ sudo umount /media/dvdrecorder
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~

(now it's only mounted once and everything works as it should)


 Danny

back to the original messages:
Nov 21 00:00:32 home hal-subfs-mount[24983]: MOUNT_POINT:: /media/dvdrecorder
Nov 21 00:00:32 home hal-subfs-mount[24983]: MOUNTPOINT:: /media/dvdrecorder

I don't know the difference between MOUNT_POINT and MOUNTPOINT,
but I suspect that my DVD drive is in a configuration file somewhere
twice.  I haven't been able to find documentation on this, though.

I already checked /etc/fstab, just in case.  The drive mounts twice
even if I take it out of that file completely.

Does anyone have any idea how to configure hal?

Thank you,
Vince Aggrippino
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Re: [opensuse] no keyboard with KDE

2005-11-20 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Thank you for your reply.  I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner.  Please
read below...

On 11/15/05, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 Am Freitag, 4. November 2005 11:52 schrieb Vincente Aggrippino:
 [Login using KDM]
  After I switched, using the Session link at the bottom of the
  greeter, I can't use the keyboard.  I know it works, I just can't use
  it from within KDE.  I can't type in a Konsole terminal... I can't
  use CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to the actual console.  I can't open the
  YaST Control Center properly because I can't type the root password
  when I'm prompted.
 
  If I use the mouse to log out, or end my session, I can type again...
  I can log in.  Everything works fine in Gnome.
 
  I read something from an old message that seems to describe this
  problem in relation to upgrading KDE, but this is the first time I've
  run KDE.

 There was a similar bug in 9.3 beta phase, but it was fixed (and not
 re-introduced, 10.0 works here :-)

 However, here's the bugreport I made at that time - maybe it contains
 some points that could be useful for you.

I found your bug report and read through it before posting my message.
 Unfortunately, the problem isn't the same.  I can log in without
difficulty.  It isn't until after I log in that I lose the ability to
use the keyboard.



 === bugreport against 9.3 beta ===
 After booting, KDM does not accept any key press events. This means
 logging in is impossible.

 Ctrl-Alt-F1 is also impossible (switches back to X immediately).

Ctrl-Alt-F1 doesn't even work :(



 I have to kill X with SysRQ-K (Ctrl-Alt-backspace is disabled in my
 config) and calling rcxdm restart to make it working.

I tried Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.  It's not disabled on mine, but I still
had no result.

I didn't know about the SysRq-K key sequence.  It's worth a try.


 This seems to be related to the earlykdm service, see
 http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-kde/2005-Feb/0010.html
 http://lists.suse.com/archives/suse-kde/2005-Feb/0031.html

 === end old bugreport ===


 Regards,

 Christian Boltz
 --
 Die Borg sind einfach eine Allegorie auf M$: gross, toll und voller
 endloser Featuritis - aber wenn es ernst wird, sterben sie an einer
 Schutzverletzung. [Andreas Pohlke in drsst]

I knew it!!! ... :)  ... o well I only understand 2 words: Borg and
M$, but that sums it up pretty well :)

Well, I'd still like to try KDE out.  It's very wierd.  Gnome works
without problems.  There must be some log file somewhere that says
what's happening, but I don't know where.  I've already taken a look
at .xsession_errors, but I didn't see anything that looked important.

Does anyone have any ideas where to look?

Thanks,
Vince

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[opensuse] CD-ROM mounting twice

2005-11-09 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
SuSE 10.0

Has anyone else experience this?

HAL is (auto)mounting my DVD writer twice whenever I put a CD in. 
Here's from the /var/log/messages:

Nov 10 11:02:00 home hal-subfs-mount[29729]: MOUNT_POINT:: /media/dvdrecorder
Nov 10 11:02:00 home hal-subfs-mount[29729]: MOUNTPOINT:: /media/dvdrecorder

Thank you,
Vince

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[opensuse] no keyboard with KDE

2005-11-04 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
SuSE 10.0.

I recently switched from Fedora Core where I was used to Gnome.  So,
when I switched to SuSE, I made sure that all of the Gnome and GTK
stuff was installed and Gnome was the default.  I thought I'd give KDE
a try, since it's SuSE's default and there are a lot of programs that
I'm not using which are KDE based.

After I switched, using the Session link at the bottom of the
greeter, I can't use the keyboard.  I know it works, I just can't use
it from within KDE.  I can't type in a Konsole terminal... I can't use
CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to the actual console.  I can't open the YaST
Control Center properly because I can't type the root password when
I'm prompted.

If I use the mouse to log out, or end my session, I can type again...
I can log in.  Everything works fine in Gnome.

I read something from an old message that seems to describe this
problem in relation to upgrading KDE, but this is the first time I've
run KDE.

Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks,
Vince

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[opensuse] Downloader for X: Segmentation Fault

2005-10-17 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
Does anyone use Downloader for X? I used it on my previous Linux distro
(FC3). I found it in Yast and installed it, but it just gives me a
Segmentation Fault. I downloaded the latest version from Freshmeat. It's
newer than the Yast version and compiled without errors, but I get the exact
same results. Has anyone experienced similar problems?

I ran it with strace and dumped all of the output to a file. I'm not an
expert with that kind of output, but I at least know what I'm looking at. I
didn't see anything unusual. It was just reading
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/locale.alias when it died. I also checked the
binary (why is it named nt?) with ldd and all of the libraries are present.

Alternatively, can anyone recommend a different download manager which runs
natively in Linux? Basically, I want to make multiple connections to a
single server and/or make connections to many servers.

Thanks,
Vince


Re: [opensuse] MD5s match MD5SUMS file, but not installation MD5 check

2005-10-13 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
I have successfully installed 10.0!! I bought 5 new CD-RWs and burned them
directly with cdrecord using a slight variation of the cdrecord command from
Damian's response. It worked the first time. I think the -pad option is the
key. To increase my confusion, though, 10.0 doesn't seem to do a media check
::shrug::

I have other questions. After over 3 years of using almost nothing but
Redhat, I guess I'm a noob again :) I'll figure it out :)

Thanks for the replies
On 10/11/05, houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2005 at 09:08:34AM +0100, Simon Dales wrote:
  On Tuesday 11 October 2005 7:34 am, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
 
   I still haven't had any luck. I won't admit how many CDs I've thrown
 away
   :( I know I'm not the only one with this problem... Google is my
 friend,
   but I still don't know a solution.
 
  Don't bother with CD burning; mount the ISOs on your local server and
 then
  install from there. You will need a boot image CD, which does need
 burning,
  unless you have a floppy drive etc.


I started to try the disc-less installation method from the link posted by
houghi. I'm sure it would've worked okay, but there were some prerequisites
for the makeSUSEdvd script which I didn't have and I didn't take the time to
track down all of them. I understand that I may have been able to mount the
ISOs via a loop device and install straight from them using the Manual
installation, but I went with the method that was most familiar to me.


Not everybody has a server. What I do is a discless instalation :
 http://www.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD


I sort of have a server on my small home network which consists of my server
and my wife's Windoze laptop. I was trying to do the install on the server,
though :)

Also mounting the CD's is not really needed. Just use `makeSUSEdvd -i -s
 /dir/to/go` and it puts itself in e.g. /srv/www/htdocs/suse/10.0 and you
 will be able to use it to install of http.

 houghi
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Thanks to all of your replies on getting me going with SuSE.

-- Vince


Re: [opensuse] MD5s match MD5SUMS file, but not installation MD5 check

2005-10-13 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
On 10/14/05, houghi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 11:12:35AM +0800, Vincente Aggrippino wrote:
  I started to try the disc-less installation method from the link posted
 by
  houghi. I'm sure it would've worked okay, but there were some
 prerequisites
  for the makeSUSEdvd script which I didn't have and I didn't take the
 time to
  track down all of them.

 What extra's were required? What I know the script needs only the
 following:
 create_package_descr This can be downloaded from
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/makesusedvd as indicated in the last
 version of the script.
 mkisofs wich should be easily installable with RedHat.
 rpm and I am not sure what distro you are using, so I do not know wether
 or not it is available. As you say you are a longtime RedHat user, I useme
 you run that and then it is availble.

 I am really curious what prerequirements you did not meet.


The deal-breaker for me was RPM. (
http://www.opensuse.org/Making_a_DVD_from_CDs#You_do_not_have_SUSE_running)
At the time, I was on Ubuntu: a Debian based distro which doesn't have RPM.
I installed Ubuntu because I had formatted my hard drive earlier without
thoroughly checking my discs. So, I was without an OS. The install disc cam
with an issue of Linux Format magazine.

In a way, I'm glad it happened. Ubuntu is a nice distro. I think it's ideal
for someone new who is past the LiveCD phase of trying out Linux and wants
to put Linux on their system. The installation doesn't give you any
choices... it just installs Linux and there you are... everything works.

I like choices... I spend an hour just going through package selections when
I do an installation for myself, but I think that most people migrating from
Windows want it to just install and work.

-- Vince

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[opensuse] How do I find/install packages

2005-10-13 Thread Vincente Aggrippino
I just switched from Fedora Core to SuSE. My first growing pain...

My problem is that I need to find and install the following packages:
cups-devel
python-devel
python-xml
PyQt
net-snmp-devel
openssl

I'm new to YaST, but my goal is to install the driver that will make my
printer and scanner (HP PSC1315) work. Ref:
http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php. The instructions are actually
pretty straight-forward and they make sense, with only a few minor
glitches... but the search results don't include the packages.

One of the minor glitches I noticed is that I can't just add a mirror to
YaST as it is on the mirrors page. I must find the directory which has a
subdirectory named media.1. Did I understand that correctly?

I've noticed that SuSE does have RPM. That's great! I know how to use rpm
-ivh blah.blah_1.2.3-4.rpm. But should I just search Google for SuSE RPMs
for each of the packages? I'd prefer to get the ones released by Novell for
SuSE.

Thank you,
Vince Aggrippino