Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-08 Thread scsijon

At 11:07 AM 6/06/2006, you wrote:

Martin Schlander wrote:
 snipHenne's proposal is
 good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit.

 opensuse-users@ - opensuse-help


maybe this would be better if it was - opensuse-helpusers

so people know it's help for users and not help for the opensuse 
mailing system?


Oh, yes, and I think the base list should still exist, but only as a 
autoreply explaining

the different lists and what they are for.


scsijon  



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Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

On Tuesday, June 06, 2006 at 03:07:51, Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no wrote:
 Martin Schlander wrote:
  snipHenne's proposal is 
  good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit.
 
  opensuse-users@ - opensuse-help
 
  opensuse@ - opensuse-project
 
  Who's gonna misunderstand that?
 This is the best suggestion so far.
 
 To get rid of of all confusion we must kill opensuse. - And by that I
 mean the list, and not the other thingy. ;-)

 Henne: I hope you are reading and agree to this. I don't think it's such
 a good idea to first change it to opensuse-technical and then discuss it
 again, a better soulution has presented itself (IMO)... So we owe it to
 ourselves to do it right when we set this plan in motion.

Im not against any idea to change the mailinglist layout we are going to
use. What i need is a layout that scales. Scales over projects and
languages. I proposed such a layout a while ago.

If we exchange names in there (foo-help instead of foo-users or
foo-project as default instead of foo) does not matter too much. From
the technical side this is a no-brainer. I just need an overall layout i
can follow. 

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread jdd

Henne Vogelsang wrote:


If we exchange names in there (foo-help instead of foo-users or
foo-project as default instead of foo) does not matter too much. From
the technical side this is a no-brainer. I just need an overall layout i
can follow. 


the most evident word (internationally accepted) is help. 
So there should be an opensuse-help list. This one will 
probably be used default by most users.


added to the new template (see other thread) that advetise 
only this list (suse-linux-e for the moment, but we may 
change that at will), most post should go there.


and if anybody go there and need an other list, people 
should say it to him.


Henne, sorry to stole the thread, but, I'm fairly sure you 
will read this, and it's for you. Writting the template I 
notice that to unsubscribe, one must look at the headers. 
why not give directly the link in the mail footer? 
advertising that it's easy to unsubscribe may make people join.


jdd


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Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-06 Thread Thomas Hertweck

jdd wrote:
 [...]
 
 the most evident word (internationally accepted) is help. 
 So there should be an opensuse-help list. 

.From my point of view, this is not such a good idea. For many mailing
lists the address name-help@ is used to automatically send a short
help with instructions on how to use the mailing list software and/or a
short FAQ to a user. For instance, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is such an
address. Thus, IMO there should be no actual list with that name, that's
again misleading (at least for people having some experiences with
mailing lists).

Two additional comments on some related subjects: a) I can understand
Randall's arguments and I think he's technically correct. I won't
comment on the tone of the whole discussion. b) I don't think that
renaming etc. or removing this list will solve all problems. There
should be a list where users can ask all general questions about
openSUSE, whether these questions are about the project or whatever.
Most people with general questions do not subscribe to all the different
mailing lists. This is a fact. In Principle, I can't see a problem with
some technical questions here; the useless discussions, flames, and all
the unnecessary blabla are much more annoying than technical questions.

Cheers,
Th.




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Re: [opensuse] [EMAIL PROTECTED] = opensuse-help gets my vote

2006-06-05 Thread Kenneth Aar, Grafikern.no
Martin Schlander wrote:
 snipHenne's proposal is 
 good - but we should learn from our mistakes and enhance it a little bit.

 opensuse-users@ - opensuse-help

 opensuse@ - opensuse-project

 Who's gonna misunderstand that?
This is the best suggestion so far.

To get rid of of all confusion we must kill opensuse. - And by that I
mean the list, and not the other thingy. ;-)

Henne: I hope you are reading and agree to this. I don't think it's such
a good idea to first change it to opensuse-technical and then discuss it
again, a better soulution has presented itself (IMO)... So we owe it to
ourselves to do it right when we set this plan in motion.

-- 
Regards
Kenneth Aar

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