Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-27 Thread Matthias Hopf
On Nov 25, 06 20:06:32 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
> > Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
> > Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
> > screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
> > and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
> > Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x. 
> 
> Which driver are you using?  Even though it says "Rage Mobility" it is
> actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
> in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,

Sad but true (about Mach64). The issue is that approximately noone
upstream is interested in these old cards anymore :-(
So yes, there could be some regression.

fbdev should work, if a graphical console is working.

CU

Matthias

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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 20:06 +0200, Hans du Plooy wrote:
> in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.
I'm actually not sure now.  I think it was the "ati" driver.  If I
remember correctly the problem was precisely that it didn't work
properly with the r128 driver.

Hans
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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread phantom21
On Sunday 26 November 2006 11:41, Reinhard Gimbel wrote:
> Hello !
>
> Hans du Plooy wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
> >> Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
> >> Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
> >> screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
> >> and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
> >> Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x.
> >
> > Which driver are you using?  Even though it says "Rage Mobility" it is
> > actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
> > in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,
> > that was SUSE 9.3, and I see in 10.1 there is a r128 and r128old
> > in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - not sure what the difference is.
> >
> > Either ways, if you really want to make it work very nicely, try to get
> > GATOS drivers going.  Again, I'm not sure what the current situation is,
> > but a couple of years ago that was the only way to get those cards to
> > function 100%, especially if you had the All-In-Wonder models.
>
> In addition I would advise to try either fbdev or vesa X11 drivers to
> get the system running in principal before doing the experiments with
> r128/r128old.
>
> Using fbdev or vesa drivers might not result in a system with a high
> graphics speed but should bring at least a right display screen.
>
> It is also a good idea to backup each state of the file
> /etc/X11/xorg.conf (with useful names ...). Thus you can fall back a
> before working setting.
> --
> Never give up !
>
> Best regards / Gruß, Reinhard.
>
> "Software is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open."

One of the things I like to do with older systems is use a Knoppix live boot 
disk and see how the system responds.  If the display works, I copy the 
configuration files for X to whatever distro I want to install.  This usually 
works.

Mark

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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-26 Thread Reinhard Gimbel
Hello !

Hans du Plooy wrote:

> On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
>> Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
>> Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
>> screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
>> and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
>> Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x. 
> 
> Which driver are you using?  Even though it says "Rage Mobility" it is
> actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
> in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,
> that was SUSE 9.3, and I see in 10.1 there is a r128 and r128old
> in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - not sure what the difference is.
> 
> Either ways, if you really want to make it work very nicely, try to get
> GATOS drivers going.  Again, I'm not sure what the current situation is,
> but a couple of years ago that was the only way to get those cards to
> function 100%, especially if you had the All-In-Wonder models.

In addition I would advise to try either fbdev or vesa X11 drivers to
get the system running in principal before doing the experiments with
r128/r128old.

Using fbdev or vesa drivers might not result in a system with a high
graphics speed but should bring at least a right display screen.

It is also a good idea to backup each state of the file
/etc/X11/xorg.conf (with useful names ...). Thus you can fall back a
before working setting.
-- 
Never give up !

Best regards / Gruß, Reinhard.

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Re: [opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-25 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sat, 2006-11-25 at 18:46 +0100, Alain Barthélemy wrote:
> Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
> Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
> screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
> and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
> Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x. 

Which driver are you using?  Even though it says "Rage Mobility" it is
actually a Mach64 (at least it was on my m700), which can be problematic
in Linux.  If I remember correctly I used the r128 driver.  However,
that was SUSE 9.3, and I see in 10.1 there is a r128 and r128old
in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers - not sure what the difference is.

Either ways, if you really want to make it work very nicely, try to get
GATOS drivers going.  Again, I'm not sure what the current situation is,
but a couple of years ago that was the only way to get those cards to
function 100%, especially if you had the All-In-Wonder models.

Hans
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[opensuse] Armada M700 SuSE-10.1 display problem

2006-11-25 Thread Alain Barthélemy
Was there an answer to this mail (in september)? Because I have exactly
the same problem.

Original mail:

Hi, I'm new to Linux. I just installed suse 10.1 on my old laptop,
Armada M700 and found the display problem. It's like the top part of the
screen is shown at the bottom. I tried to change the resolution, monitor
and frequency around but couldn't get it to work. The VGA card is ATI 3D
Rage P/M Moility AGP 2x. 

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