Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Am Sonntag, 25. September 2005 03:01 schrieb Andy Choens: > On Saturday 24 September 2005 09:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Am Samstag, 24. September 2005 04:59 schrieb Andy Choens: > > > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the > > > past posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to > > > get my 200M up and running. > > the "radeon" driver works quite well for me. Hi Andy, sorry, I only have some older chips. But have you tried to explicitly set a ChipID of an older card? > Umm. Sax2 has to include > > Option"NoAccel" > > or X freezes when I boot. Thus, no 3D, and I'm not really using the > card. It's a fairly powerful video card, so I would like to really > use it. Yes, I am using the Radeon Driver. If you're running a > laptop with a 200M in it, I would love to see your xorg.conf file. Sorry only a X600. -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 01:54, Andy Choens wrote: > Yep. I've gotten *most* of the win32 codecs up and running. But, not > libdvdcss. But, I keep saying this and I keep getting the same comments. > Have a look at this site for libdvdcss http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/ It is i386 rpm but there is also a src rpm. -- Regards, Graham Smith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
> > None of your problems is x86_64-related. Nearly everything has been > discussed on this lists several times before. Look into the archive next > time. > Actually several have been. I did look into the archives (I'm not an idiot) and discovered most of this stuff was left unresolved. I've been googling quite a bit and have started to make some progress. The interaction between win32 codecs on 64 bit Linux platforms seems to be something all distros are coping with. Yast wanting to install a useless version of Java (at least as OpenOffice.org) was directly related to this being an amd64 machine. > All your problems are related to closed source or patent restriced software > that cannot belong to the OSS version of SUSE 10 because of it's policy to > use open software only. > Sortof. This fact makes the support less, but it still doesn't explain the difficulties I've been having. > > But, I digress. > > > > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the past > > posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get my 200M > > up and running. > > An ATI driver is included, but 3D is only supported for older ATI chips. > Get the closed source driver form ATI yourself or wait for the boxed > version of SUSE 10. > Yeah. Their's claims to support this chip, but Radeon seems to do a better job sadly, since it's only 1/2 working. > Compile kaffeine and/or xine yourself, or look for packages from other > sources, e.g. from Packman. You will not find libdvdcss there, but some > multimedia packages with otherwise less restrictions. Yep. I've gotten *most* of the win32 codecs up and running. But, not libdvdcss. But, I keep saying this and I keep getting the same comments. > > You have only tried boxed version before? > No, actually my other laptop runs kubuntu, and I have a desktop running slack. This is my first 64 bit machine though. If kubuntu ran half-way well on this thing, I'd use it. > Sorry for that, but reading some documentation on opensuse.org and a look > into the archives should have saved you much time. > The archives didn't help much. My problem wasn't mentionned. I know I need to install libdvdcss. In fact I have, several different ways, and I can't get it to work. If I manage to come up with something on my own, I'll be sure to post it here, but at this point I've given up hoping for some help from here. At some point I hope people read my posts and see the errors I've reported so they will post comments relating to them, and not the fact that DVD's are encrypted. Currently, I have libdvdcss compiled locally on the system. Thus, everything is in /usr/local/lib. I tried linking libdvdcss.so to /lib to see if it was something weird going on there, but it didn't help. I have also tried installing the rpm from pacman, et al. When I do that, XINe tells me it cant find the ogg-theora plugin. When I compile it myself, I get a drive read error. The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or the source doesn't contain any data. Error reading from DVD I ran xine as root (stupid, I know) to see if it got any farther. It didn't. Same error. I can read the drive just fine for data dvds, so I don't think my user permissions are really the problem. --andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Hi Andy! Am Samstag 24 September 2005 04:59 schrieb Andy Choens: > Linux is ready for the desktopbut not on amd64. Gettig this laptop up > and running has been a REAL PIA. None of your problems is x86_64-related. Nearly everything has been discussed on this lists several times before. Look into the archive next time. All your problems are related to closed source or patent restriced software that cannot belong to the OSS version of SUSE 10 because of it's policy to use open software only. > But, I digress. > > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the past > posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get my 200M up > and running. An ATI driver is included, but 3D is only supported for older ATI chips. Get the closed source driver form ATI yourself or wait for the boxed version of SUSE 10. > Installing libdvdcss seems to be a real joy. I downloaded the source and > installed it. But, Kaffeine won't look at the DVD drive b/c it is the > special SUSE version. Do I have to recompile kaffeine? I deleted > everything in ~/.kde3/share/apps/kaffeine and restarted kaffeine. It > recognizes libdvdcss, but refuses to use it. So, I figured I'd just > install xine (gui) as a work-around. No dice. It fails out telling me I > don't have permisions to view my dvd. Compile kaffeine and/or xine yourself, or look for packages from other sources, e.g. from Packman. You will not find libdvdcss there, but some multimedia packages with otherwise less restrictions. > I've never had this much trouble getting that to work. You have only tried boxed version before? > But, the kicker is this. I really like the program basket. It's not on > the CD's, but the source rpm is on novell's FTP site for 10. So, I > download it and try to rpmbuild. Not surprisingly, I get some dependency > errors yast. No problem, I fire up YAST and start installing them. I > expected this. What I did NOT expect was to not find the devel package for > gettext OR the update-desktop-files rpms. Now this really pissed me off. > I can't find these anywhere. I don't mind compiling, but this is > ridiculous! There is no need to rebuild the rpm. There is a binary rpm, too. Use the the Install-Source on the FTP-server to install the program and all dependencys will resolve automatically. > Alright, I'll stop my rant there. This laptop has annoyed me enough for > this evening. Sorry for that, but reading some documentation on opensuse.org and a look into the archives should have saved you much time. Cheers, herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Andy Choens wrote: If anyone has any insight into why the DVD starts to play, and then, after getting a brief image it tells me I no longer have rights to the DVD drive (Which I do) then feel free to toss me a bone. But PLEASE don't tell me to install it again. I do not have an answer to your question, but I am able to play DVDs with kaffeine from packman (updated the original version from opensuse with the one from packman) and the libdvdcss2 installed from packman after the rebuild they mention on their webpage as they are unable to ship the compiled rpm. Your problem could be related to a faulty dvd drive. I had one in my machine which would start reading a disk (data disk in this case) and then stop after some time. It was a real pain to install SuSE on this machine. Could not figure out why the installation kept stopping. Although it managed to get through the installation, it just died shortly after that. Hope that helps. Gulli - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
On Saturday 24 September 2005 11:13 pm, Cristian Rodriguez wrote: > Andy Choens wrote: > > On Friday 23 September 2005 11:53 pm, BandiPat wrote: > >> Remember, and this has been discussed much here, the included open > >> source files for multimedia are somewhat crippled and will not work > >> with many things, especially dvd movies! If want such things to work, > >> you will need to download the needed files from the Packman site and > >> replace all your files installed with 10.x! The boxed package for 10.x > >> will have working multimedia for most things, but those of us that get > >> that will still need to compile the DVD movie stuff. It's not that > >> 64bit isn't ready for SuSE, it's just the rest of the software world > >> is not ready for the 64 yet. Maybe when Windows catches up to 64bit, > >> the 64bit will catch up to Linux! ;o) > > > > Yep. My beef is that I can't get libdvdcss to work at all. I knew I had > > to install it myself. This ain't my first time using linux. Packman -- > > no dice. It didn't work. I assumed I was looking at a lib64 issue. So, > > I then downloaded the source code and compiled it myself. Everything > > seems nice. I don't get any errors. Still doesn't work. > > > > I also find it interesting that kaffeine won't even look at the DVD drive > > even though it recognizes the installation on libdvdcss. > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wget > http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 > > rpmbuild -tb libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 > > install the compiled RPM :-) > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Trying really hard to not sound annoyed I already installed it. How many times do I have to say this? To quote myself. > > I then downloaded the source code and compiled it myself. Everything > > seems nice. I don't get any errors. Still doesn't work. I love it when advice goes round and round. If anyone has any insight into why the DVD starts to play, and then, after getting a brief image it tells me I no longer have rights to the DVD drive (Which I do) then feel free to toss me a bone. But PLEASE don't tell me to install it again. --andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Andy Choens wrote: > On Friday 23 September 2005 11:53 pm, BandiPat wrote: >> Remember, and this has been discussed much here, the included open >> source files for multimedia are somewhat crippled and will not work >> with many things, especially dvd movies! If want such things to work, >> you will need to download the needed files from the Packman site and >> replace all your files installed with 10.x! The boxed package for 10.x >> will have working multimedia for most things, but those of us that get >> that will still need to compile the DVD movie stuff. It's not that >> 64bit isn't ready for SuSE, it's just the rest of the software world >> is not ready for the 64 yet. Maybe when Windows catches up to 64bit, >> the 64bit will catch up to Linux! ;o) > > > Yep. My beef is that I can't get libdvdcss to work at all. I knew I had to > install it myself. This ain't my first time using linux. Packman -- no > dice. It didn't work. I assumed I was looking at a lib64 issue. So, I then > downloaded the source code and compiled it myself. Everything seems nice. I > don't get any errors. Still doesn't work. > > I also find it interesting that kaffeine won't even look at the DVD drive > even > though it recognizes the installation on libdvdcss. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wget http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 rpmbuild -tb libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.bz2 install the compiled RPM :-) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
On Friday 23 September 2005 11:53 pm, BandiPat wrote: > Remember, and this has been discussed much here, the included open > source files for multimedia are somewhat crippled and will not work > with many things, especially dvd movies! If want such things to work, > you will need to download the needed files from the Packman site and > replace all your files installed with 10.x! The boxed package for 10.x > will have working multimedia for most things, but those of us that get > that will still need to compile the DVD movie stuff. It's not that > 64bit isn't ready for SuSE, it's just the rest of the software world > is not ready for the 64 yet. Maybe when Windows catches up to 64bit, > the 64bit will catch up to Linux! ;o) Yep. My beef is that I can't get libdvdcss to work at all. I knew I had to install it myself. This ain't my first time using linux. Packman -- no dice. It didn't work. I assumed I was looking at a lib64 issue. So, I then downloaded the source code and compiled it myself. Everything seems nice. I don't get any errors. Still doesn't work. I also find it interesting that kaffeine won't even look at the DVD drive even though it recognizes the installation on libdvdcss. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
On Saturday 24 September 2005 09:00 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Am Samstag, 24. September 2005 04:59 schrieb Andy Choens: > > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the > > past posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get > > my 200M up and running. > > Hi Andy, > > the "radeon" driver works quite well for me. > Umm. Sax2 has to include Option "NoAccel" or X freezes when I boot. Thus, no 3D, and I'm not really using the card. It's a fairly powerful video card, so I would like to really use it. Yes, I am using the Radeon Driver. If you're running a laptop with a 200M in it, I would love to see your xorg.conf file. --andy Has anyone had any lucjk getting libdvdcss to work on their 64 bit machine? I'm sure there's a little trick to it that I'm just overlooking. If anyone is trying to get OpenOffice to recognize Java, there's a really subtle trick. Yast wants to install the "64 bit" version of Java. But, OpenOffice is only a 32 bit application. At least, this is what Im currently thinking. Looks like they've never ported it on over. Thus, when you install Java, OpenOffice doesn't acknowledge that you've installed Java. If you have it reinstall Java and get the 586 version, all is well. That was a problem for a little while until I figured it out quite by accident. --andy It's probably as obvious as the Java trick for getting OpenOffice to recognie Java. Yast tries - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Am Samstag, 24. September 2005 04:59 schrieb Andy Choens: > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the > past posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get > my 200M up and running. Hi Andy, the "radeon" driver works quite well for me. > Installing libdvdcss seems to be a real joy. I downloaded the source > and installed it. But, Kaffeine won't look at the DVD drive b/c it try compiling lib-xine from xinehq.de on your own. Do a "ldconfig" and kaffeine will use it. -- mdc - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Config questions on amd64
On Friday 23 September 2005 10:59 pm, Andy Choens wrote: > Wow. > > Linux is ready for the desktopbut not on amd64. Gettig this > laptop up and running has been a REAL PIA. > > But, I digress. > > Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the > past posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get > my 200M up and running. > Andy, The included ATI kernel modules/drivers should be quite sufficient to get your ATI card up and running well, even 3D for it! I'm not sure that installing the ATI specific drivers add that much to your graphics, they never have for me, although some other cards may like it better than the ones I've compared it on. -- > Installing libdvdcss seems to be a real joy. I downloaded the source > and installed it. But, Kaffeine won't look at the DVD drive b/c it > is the special SUSE version. Do I have to recompile kaffeine? I > deleted everything in ~/.kde3/share/apps/kaffeine and restarted > kaffeine. It recognizes libdvdcss, but refuses to use it. So, I > figured I'd just install xine (gui) as a work-around. No dice. It > fails out telling me I don't have permisions to view my dvd. > > I've never had this much trouble getting that to work. > > But, the kicker is this. I really like the program basket. It's not > on the CD's, but the source rpm is on novell's FTP site for 10. So, > I download it and try to rpmbuild. Not surprisingly, I get some > dependency errors yast. No problem, I fire up YAST and start > installing them. I expected this. What I did NOT expect was to not > find the devel package for gettext OR the update-desktop-files rpms. > Now this really pissed me off. I can't find these anywhere. I don't > mind compiling, but this is ridiculous! > > Alright, I'll stop my rant there. This laptop has annoyed me enough > for this evening. > > -andy > > - Remember, and this has been discussed much here, the included open source files for multimedia are somewhat crippled and will not work with many things, especially dvd movies! If want such things to work, you will need to download the needed files from the Packman site and replace all your files installed with 10.x! The boxed package for 10.x will have working multimedia for most things, but those of us that get that will still need to compile the DVD movie stuff. It's not that 64bit isn't ready for SuSE, it's just the rest of the software world is not ready for the 64 yet. Maybe when Windows catches up to 64bit, the 64bit will catch up to Linux! ;o) end of line Lee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] Config questions on amd64
Wow. Linux is ready for the desktopbut not on amd64. Gettig this laptop up and running has been a REAL PIA. But, I digress. Any tips for installing ATI drivers on this thing? I've read the past posts of every distro on earth and don't seem to be able to get my 200M up and running. Installing libdvdcss seems to be a real joy. I downloaded the source and installed it. But, Kaffeine won't look at the DVD drive b/c it is the special SUSE version. Do I have to recompile kaffeine? I deleted everything in ~/.kde3/share/apps/kaffeine and restarted kaffeine. It recognizes libdvdcss, but refuses to use it. So, I figured I'd just install xine (gui) as a work-around. No dice. It fails out telling me I don't have permisions to view my dvd. I've never had this much trouble getting that to work. But, the kicker is this. I really like the program basket. It's not on the CD's, but the source rpm is on novell's FTP site for 10. So, I download it and try to rpmbuild. Not surprisingly, I get some dependency errors yast. No problem, I fire up YAST and start installing them. I expected this. What I did NOT expect was to not find the devel package for gettext OR the update-desktop-files rpms. Now this really pissed me off. I can't find these anywhere. I don't mind compiling, but this is ridiculous! Alright, I'll stop my rant there. This laptop has annoyed me enough for this evening. -andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
