[opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hi All Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! -- Regards Peter Cannon "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
El Domingo, 12 de Noviembre de 2006 10:36, Peter Cannon escribió: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > > I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! Not duplicate mails here. It seems is no a general problem Guillermo -- Guillermo Ballester Valor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ogijares, Granada SPAIN Public GPG KEY http://www.oxixares.com/~gbv/pubgpg.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 09:36, Peter Cannon wrote: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > > I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! I didn't get any duplicate e-mails. Hugo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 09:36, Peter Cannon wrote: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > > I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! Hi Peter Yep, I'm getting a lot too. I think it's down to the reconfiguration of the list - mails sent to opensuse@opensuse.org and suse-linux-e are arriving here twice due to the consolidation of lists. Cheers Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Peter Cannon wrote: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > No duplicates here. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr5/month/user. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 10:16, Per Jessen wrote: > No duplicates here. Hmm your was duplicated so was Guillermoo's, Hugo's and Pete Connolly's. I'm drowning in emails :( Have to go out for a bit but expect another 100+ when I get back. -- Regards Peter Cannon "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 10:29, Peter Cannon wrote: > On Sunday 12 November 2006 10:16, Per Jessen wrote: > > No duplicates here. > > Hmm your was duplicated so was Guillermoo's, Hugo's and Pete Connolly's. > > I'm drowning in emails :( > > Have to go out for a bit but expect another 100+ when I get back. Strange, I only got my own email, Hugo's, Per's and Guillermoo's once. The last duplicate I received was yesterday evening from Ed McCanless, sent to both lists... From: Ed McCanless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: suse-linux-e@suse.com, opensuse@opensuse.org Subject: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] Removing installed application Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:44:00 -0500 Apart from that (and there were a lot yesterday) most have been fine with just a single copy. Cheers Pete - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Pete Connolly a écrit : Strange, I only got my own email, i can see two reason. * not anybody takes the time to remove the original author adresse in the header * may be one can have two opensuse subscribtion if he was sunscribed both to opensuse and suse-e ? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 12:16 +0100, jdd wrote: > Pete Connolly a écrit : > > > Strange, I only got my own email, > > i can see two reason. > > * not anybody takes the time to remove the original author adresse in the > header No, not that. I filter them out and it is working correctly, I think. > > * may be one can have two opensuse subscribtion if he was sunscribed both to > opensuse and suse-e ? Maybe? No, then I would see every email duplicated, and I don't, only some of them. I haven't stopped to find a pattern. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFVwpatTMYHG2NR9URAoVkAJ4xx4UDRsjMQiEHtdGO1ppaZCC+fQCdHe4v 8yj5XzNDtYBbmfn9VzCu75s= =XYWL -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Carlos E. R. wrote: > > * may be one can have two opensuse subscribtion if he was sunscribed > both to > > opensuse and suse-e ? > > Maybe? No, then I would see every email duplicated, and I don't, only > some > of them. > > I haven't stopped to find a pattern. > My guess is perhaps some have a procmail filter to automatically put suse-linux-e in the reply, so now it gets sent to both. There are 2 emails since they are sent to both lists, which are now only one, so both come here. -- Joe Morris Registered Linux user 231871 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 11:16, jdd wrote: > i can see two reason. > > * not anybody takes the time to remove the original author > adresse in the header That ones thrown me I'll have to sit and think about it. > * may be one can have two opensuse subscribtion if he was > sunscribed both to opensuse and suse-e ? Now thats what I was thinking I'm not getting any suse-e mails so is the solution unsubscribe from suse-e? So far I have 16 email's on this subject (Including my own posts). -- Regards Peter Cannon "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
>Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > >I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! Apart from the list consolidation, there's also the crappy configuration (like LKML does) remarked by Eberhard. For LKML such a config is fine, not so for the suse lists IMO. -`J' -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
>> i can see two reason. >> >> * not anybody takes the time to remove the original author >> adresse in the header There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed. -`J' -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of > LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or > To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into > one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads > they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when > just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed. Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list sending me two of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one but its getting annoying I'm already on a number of differant mailing lists and the extra load is distracting, if while reading one list suddenley theres 37 new posts you brain thinks "Heads up whats going on over there" only to find that its double bluff. Has 10.1 flakyness crept into the list server? -- Regards Peter Cannon "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate mails
Peter Open 2 mails that are duplicates. This for instance. View the complete headers, are they being delivered to 2 different email addresses, meaning were you subscribed to both opensuse@opensuse.org and suse-linux-e@suse.com before the switch, but with 2 different email-addresses? Or even better, email 2 duplicates to this list with complete headers so we can try to make heads and tails of them. Bjørn - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sun, 12 Nov 2006 you said: > On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > > There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of > > LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or > > To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into > > one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads > > they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when > > just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed. > > Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list sending me > two > of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one but its getting > annoying I have yet to see a multiple instance of any mail. Put recipe this in your .procmailrc :0Wh: msgid.lock | formail -D 1024 $PMDIR/msgid.cache See procmailex(1) Theo (who loves the way *nix can delegate special tasks to specialized programs, instead of relying on one program to (be able to) do everything) -- Theo v. Werkhoven Registered Linux user# 99872 http://counter.li.org Voorhout ICQ: 277217131 ICBM 52 13 26N , 4 29 47E.Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voor GNUpg/pgp zie headers. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
* Peter Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 08:01]: ... > Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list > sending me two of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one > but its getting annoying Put this as the first recipe in your procmail rc and it will segragate duplicate msg's: # --- LOCKFILE = msgid.cache.lock :0 Whc: msgid.lock | $FORMAIL -D 16384 msgid.cache LOCKFILE ### save duplicates in case of error :0 a: $MAILDIR/duplicates # --- > Has 10.1 flakyness crept into the list server? Intelligent observation! -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Peter Cannon wrote: On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote: There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed. Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list sending me two of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one but its getting annoying I'm already on a number of differant mailing lists and the extra load is distracting, if while reading one list suddenley theres 37 new posts you brain thinks "Heads up whats going on over there" only to find that its double bluff. Has 10.1 flakyness crept into the list server? No, it is your setup. I am subscribed to several mailing lists, some have been redirected to the new list server, some haven't. No double posts have appeared on my server. I would suggest you do some more in-depth analysis, before you scream murder. - Is the message-id really the same in those double mails? - Are they delivered to the same address (again, look at the header)? Sandy -- List replies only please! Please address PMs to: news-reply2 (@) japantest (.) homelinux (.) com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Peter Cannon wrote: > On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > >> There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example >> of LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be >> Cc'ed or To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list >> mails into one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply >> for threads they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often >> ignored when just submitted to lkml without any persons directly >> cc'ed. > > Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list > sending me two of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one > but its getting annoying > Apologies - I've just been checking my mail-logs, and I AM getting all postings in duplo. I just feed all mailing-list mail into my news-server, which is really good at dealing with duplicate messages. In my case I am subscribed to both "opensuse@opensuse.org" and "suse-linux-e@suse.com", but with two different addresses. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- http://www.spamchek.com/ - managed email security. Starting at SFr5/month/user. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 14:33, Per Jessen wrote: > Apologies - I've just been checking my mail-logs, and I AM getting all > postings in duplo. I just feed all mailing-list mail into my > news-server, which is really good at dealing with duplicate messages. > > In my case I am subscribed to both "opensuse@opensuse.org" and > "suse-linux-e@suse.com", but with two different addresses. This made me check my cyrus IMAP logs as well, and yes, I'm getting duplicates as well. Cyrus is also very good at filtering them out Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out twice - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
* Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 09:19]: > This made me check my cyrus IMAP logs as well, and yes, I'm getting > duplicates as well. Cyrus is also very good at filtering them out > > Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out twice I don't believe that it is the list software, but individual client's list address function. Mutt will address mail originally sent to suse-linux-e to both addresses, which I then edit, since I *am* subscribed to both lists. note: this _only_ happens to mail which was sent to suse-linux-e originally. -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 15:28, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 09:19]: > > This made me check my cyrus IMAP logs as well, and yes, I'm getting > > duplicates as well. Cyrus is also very good at filtering them out > > > > Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out twice > > I don't believe that it is the list software, but individual client's > list address function. Mutt will address mail originally sent to > suse-linux-e to both addresses, which I then edit, since I *am* > subscribed to both lists. > > note: this _only_ happens to mail which was sent to suse-linux-e > originally. What are you talking about? It's just not true. I get even my own mail twice, and I know I'm not sending it to two lists, and I know I'm not sending it to suse-linux-e I would guess it happens for users who are/were subscribed to SLE. My guess is Henne migrated us to opensuse by simply cat:ing the subscribers file for SLE and appending it to the opensuse file, so we now have two entries each in the subscribers file for opensuse@opensuse.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hi, On Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 09:28:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 09:19]: > > This made me check my cyrus IMAP logs as well, and yes, I'm getting > > duplicates as well. Cyrus is also very good at filtering them out > > > > Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out twice It does not. > I don't believe that it is the list software, but individual client's > list address function. Mutt will address mail originally sent to > suse-linux-e to both addresses True. As we have the mailinglist headers pointing to opensuse and the "to" is to suse-linux-e mutt will insert both into your mail. > note: this _only_ happens to mail which was sent to suse-linux-e > originally. Exactly. Thats why posting to suse-linux-e is depreciated. Once all the old suse-linux-e threads run out we wont have that problem anymore (except someone uses the depreciated address). Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hi, On Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 15:38:44, Anders Johansson wrote: > I would guess it happens for users who are/were subscribed to SLE. My guess > is > Henne migrated us to opensuse by simply cat:ing the subscribers file for SLE > and appending it to the opensuse file, so we now have two entries each in the > subscribers file for opensuse@opensuse.org How stupid do you think i am man? Jeez :) Of course i didnt do it that way. I merged them. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sunday 12 November 2006 04:36, Peter Cannon wrote: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > > I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! no duplicate emails here, about 110 since last night. - -- 10:29am up 2 days 8:15, 1 user, load average: 0.55, 0.33, 0.17 Powered by: SuSE Linux 10.1 ~ Kernel 2.6.16.21-0.25-smp #1 ~ Kmail 1.9 ~ Registered Linux user: 412217 http://reillyblog.com http://norwichlinuxusersgroup.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFVz3xUomsJZB8WEYRAtUPAJ9mqswcvaFzpqfJTpp0R96aon7a4ACfUDm7 f5fuGmovwrxMldIbCdql7yk= =Q2FW -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 15:38 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > What are you talking about? It's just not true. I get even my own mail twice, > and I know I'm not sending it to two lists, and I know I'm not sending it to > suse-linux-e Did you get the above email twice? I didn't. I did receive some duplicates yesterday, but not today. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFVz+vtTMYHG2NR9URAgTlAJ0fc1AqFqnblhpOUdzPIyh3dmb8twCgluu4 bHofy0H3RAGftubkM/J/ZPs= =LPBc -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Peter Cannon wrote: > Hi All > > Is it just me or is everyone getting duplicate mails? > > I logged on this morning and had 300 mails!! > > I've seen a few - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 15:46 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > > Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out twice > > It does not. Not everything, but some of them. I have proof: 1) Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2) Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Both reached my ISP within 3 seconds one of the other. The entry points to SuSE are different: 1) Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2886312074 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:44:09 +0100 (CET) 2) Received: from imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net (imf17aec.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.59.65]) by mx1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE3212074 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 23:44:10 +0100 (CET) So, the problem is external to SuSE, you got two copies: one sent to opensuse@opensuse.org, and another to suse-linux-e@suse.com; both got posted, although I can find only one in the archive (and it is difficult to find, by the way). For this instance, the "culprit" is Ed McCanless, or rather, the merging process. | From: Ed McCanless | To: suse-linux-e@suse.com, opensuse@opensuse.org<== | Subject: [opensuse] Re: [SLE] Removing installed application | Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:44:00 -0500 ;-) Now, people, scan the duplicates each one of you got, and find out. I'm off to my well earned, delayed Siesta ;-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFV0MmtTMYHG2NR9URAqhcAJ9cmwnap9QyYa2AnEphiQwAwd3e3ACePUBf wTAIZF6B6rBeUko7BWdNabA= =bn/K -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 16:52 +0100, I wrote: > posted, although I can find only one in the archive (and it is difficult > to find, by the way). Update: the archive is stuck on Fri Nov 10 13:10:50 GMT 2006, it is not being updated. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFV0U9tTMYHG2NR9URAhQ+AJ46Bf/a4M2nmiIaBtJNBqxPVfqWUQCff8B6 Iviat8LTGvCH6qkixPyHh5c= =yhtm -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hi, To everyone that gets any duplicates. There are a couple of things you should check. 1. Are you subscribed with two different addresses? Check the header of the email. The "Return-Path" header contains your subscription address. It looks like this: Return-Path: opensuse-+bounces--@opensuse.org The subscribed address has the @ sign replaced by a = If you recive mails to two different accounts unsubscribe one. 2. Is this mail adressed to both list names? This list has 2 list names. opensuse@opensuse.org and [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you send a mail to both addresses at once it will be delivered twice. 3. Is this mail really a duplicate or did someone send the same mail twice? Also check the headers. Each mail includes a couple of "Received" headers. They usually contain the ESMTP id. If they are not the same then those are different mails. You can also check the Message-ID header, though it is not as reliable as the ESMTP id's. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 15:46, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > On Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 09:28:08, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Anders Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 09:19]: > > > This made me check my cyrus IMAP logs as well, and yes, I'm getting > > > duplicates as well. Cyrus is also very good at filtering them out > > > > > > Henne? It looks like the opensuse lists are sending everything out > > > twice > > It does not. After disabling duplicate suppression in cyrus (and repairing some mess in my postfix config) I'm not seeing dupes at all anymore. I guess I was misinterpreting what cyrus was saying - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hi, On Sunday, November 12, 2006 at 17:01:00, Carlos E. R. wrote: > The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 16:52 +0100, I wrote: > > > posted, although I can find only one in the archive (and it is difficult > > to find, by the way). The archive software is able to find duplicate msgid's and archive only one. > Update: the archive is stuck on Fri Nov 10 13:10:50 GMT 2006, it is not > being updated. Nope. Works like a charm. http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/date4.html Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, http://hennevogel.de "To die. In the rain. Alone." Ernest Hemingway - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 16:37 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 15:38 +0100, Anders Johansson wrote: > > > What are you talking about? It's just not true. I get even my own mail > > twice, > > and I know I'm not sending it to two lists, and I know I'm not sending it > > to > > suse-linux-e > > Did you get the above email twice? I didn't. > > I did receive some duplicates yesterday, but not today. I got a dupe from Patrick Shanahan timestamped about 9:42 a.m. from today. I am getting a few dupes. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:08 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > To everyone that gets any duplicates. There are a couple of things > you should check. > > 1. Are you subscribed with two different addresses? No. >Check the header of the email. The "Return-Path" header contains your >subscription address. It looks like this: > > Return-Path: opensuse-+bounces-- address>@opensuse.org Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >The subscribed address has the @ sign replaced by a = > >If you recive mails to two different accounts unsubscribe one. > > 2. Is this mail adressed to both list names? > >This list has 2 list names. opensuse@opensuse.org and >[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you send a mail to both addresses at once >it will be delivered twice. Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135]) by e450.mnsi.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kACFXtkN003287 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id E15B510255; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:31:20 + (GMT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135]) by e450.mnsi.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kACFXtkN003287 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id E15B510255; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:31:20 + (GMT) X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3. Is this mail really a duplicate or did someone send the same mail twice? > >Also check the headers. Each mail includes a couple of "Received" >headers. They usually contain the ESMTP id. If they are not the same >then those are different mails. You can also check the Message-ID >header, though it is not as reliable as the ESMTP id's. > > Henne Posted above are the relevant sections from the headers of a duplicate e-mail, the only one from my most recent mail poll. Note the ESMTP id's are the same. HTH, Mike - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
* Mike McMullin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [11-12-06 11:42]: ... > I got a dupe from Patrick Shanahan timestamped about 9:42 a.m. from > today. I am getting a few dupes. Please forward those with complete headers to me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tks, -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Sunday 2006-11-12 at 17:20 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > > Update: the archive is stuck on Fri Nov 10 13:10:50 GMT 2006, it is not > > being updated. > > Nope. Works like a charm. > > http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/date4.html Mmmm, you are right. It is links that stuck with the cached copy and doesn't check again. I have to exit the program, revisiting the link is not enough :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFV1wotTMYHG2NR9URAn39AJ0QHW6nUffZ/7IMymTec8MPqOjImwCeOtBm HCu5CGSPzkDeDmyLJISGWzE= =b1CC -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate mails
On Sunday 12 November 2006 13:19, Bjørn Lie wrote: > Open 2 mails that are duplicates. This for instance. View the complete > headers, are they being delivered to 2 different email addresses, > meaning were you subscribed to both opensuse@opensuse.org and > suse-linux-e@suse.com before the switch, but with 2 different > email-addresses? > Or even better, email 2 duplicates to this list with complete headers so > we can try to make heads and tails of them. Morning All It may be my fault I have two registrations 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now on this Laptop I'm not getting any duplicates but having said that its only got the peter@ account so theres something flaky going on with the lightstar@ account however I'm sure lightstar is not subscribed to opensuse. I cant check my SuSE box at home until Tuesday night P.S. My original and subsequent posts are not showing up on this machine which?? -- Regards Peter Cannon www.cannon-linux.co.uk MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
who didn't feed the hampster? -- Ryan McCain Northrop Grumman Corporation Linux System Administrator 3 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: 225.505.3832 Fax: 225.219.0540 Registered Linux User #364609 >>> Peter Cannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/12/06 7:00 AM >>> On Sunday 12 November 2006 12:33, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > There is also a good reason not to. Let's take the promiment example of > LKML, where you do not have to be subscribed. So you have to be Cc'ed or > To'ed somehow. Second case LKML: People throw all their list mails into > one folder (the unimportant stuff) and get a direct reply for threads > they have taken part in. That's why your patch is often ignored when > just submitted to lkml without any persons directly cc'ed. Aaah!! this is starting to 'P&*$' me off its got to be the list sending me two of everything, I've heard of two for the price of one but its getting annoying I'm already on a number of differant mailing lists and the extra load is distracting, if while reading one list suddenley theres 37 new posts you brain thinks "Heads up whats going on over there" only to find that its double bluff. Has 10.1 flakyness crept into the list server? -- Regards Peter Cannon "There is every excuse for not knowing there is no excuse for not asking" - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
On 2006-11-12 10:08, Henne Vogelsang wrote: > Hi, > > To everyone that gets any duplicates. There are a couple of things > you should check. > > > 2. Is this mail adressed to both list names? > >This list has 2 list names. opensuse@opensuse.org and >[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you send a mail to both addresses at once >it will be delivered twice. I received about 10 duplicates only, and in each case except 2, this was the reason. The remaining 2 were because the mail was sent twice. Well, I actually got about 39 or 40 more duplicates, but those were because I saw a couple of interesting threads in the previous opensuse list, and downloaded a couple of mboxes to get the whole threads -- merging them into the sle stuff I retain proved interesting :-) -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] Duplicate Mails
Hello, On Sun, 12 Nov 2006, Mike McMullin wrote: >On Sun, 2006-11-12 at 17:08 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote: [..] >> 2. Is this mail adressed to both list names? >> >>This list has 2 list names. opensuse@opensuse.org and >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] If you send a mail to both addresses at once >>it will be delivered twice. >Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135]) by > e450.mnsi.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kACFXtkN003287 for > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500 (EST) >Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de > (Postfix) with SMTP id E15B510255; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:31:20 + >(GMT) >X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135]) by > e450.mnsi.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kACFXtkN003287 for > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 10:33:55 -0500 (EST) >Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lists4.suse.de > (Postfix) with SMTP id E15B510255; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 15:31:20 + >(GMT) >X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] That means, that up the host e450.mnsi.net, there is only _one_ mail. The duplication has happend on a later host between e450.mnsi.net and your host. So there's nothing the list-owner can do about it, it is your or your mail-provider's problem. -dnh PS: Your Msg-Id is broken. See RfC 2822: "The message identifier (msg-id) itself MUST be a globally unique identifier for a message. The generator of the message identifier MUST guarantee that the msg-id is unique." -- BOFH excuse #391: We already sent around a notice about that. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
