Re: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT

2007-12-27 Thread Ed McCanless
Carlos E. R. wrote:


 The Tuesday 2007-12-25 at 23:36 -0500, Bob S wrote:

  Hello SuSE people

  Off topic. What can I say when I am frustrated.

  Does SUSE have an rpm for FlightGear, and if so, where can I find
 it. It's not
  on the DVD and I can't make the tar file compile.

 http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=FlightGeardistro=openSUSE_103

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I would like to add my thanks;
I've been looking for this, but didn't think to ask on this list.

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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT

2007-12-26 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Tuesday 2007-12-25 at 23:36 -0500, Bob S wrote:


Hello SuSE people

Off topic. What can I say when I am frustrated.

Does SUSE have an rpm for FlightGear, and if so, where can I find it. It's not
on the DVD and I can't make the tar file compile.


http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=FlightGeardistro=openSUSE_103

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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT

2007-12-26 Thread Bob S
On Tuesday 25 December 2007 11:48:33 pm Masaru Nomiya wrote:
 Hello,

 In the Message;

   Subject: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT
   Message-ID : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Date  Time: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:36:19 -0500

 [Bob] == Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

 Bob Does SUSE have an rpm for FlightGear, and if so, where can I find it.
 It's Bob not on the DVD and I can't make the tar file compile.

 Here it is;

   http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games:/action/openSUSE_10.3/

 Just add this to Yast2's repositories, then you can install FlightGear.

Thanks Masaru, Carlos.  Appreciated

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[opensuse] FlightGear - OT

2007-12-25 Thread Bob S
Hello SuSE people

Off topic. What can I say when I am frustrated.

Does SUSE have an rpm for FlightGear, and if so, where can I find it. It's not 
on the DVD and I can't make the tar file compile.

Bob S
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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT

2007-12-25 Thread Masaru Nomiya
Hello,

In the Message; 

  Subject: [opensuse] FlightGear - OT
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  Date  Time: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 23:36:19 -0500

[Bob] == Bob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] has written:

Bob Does SUSE have an rpm for FlightGear, and if so, where can I find it. It's 
Bob not on the DVD and I can't make the tar file compile.

Here it is;

  http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/games:/action/openSUSE_10.3/

Just add this to Yast2's repositories, then you can install FlightGear.

Regards,

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Re: FW: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-11 Thread jfweber
On Wed January 10 2007 9:23 pm, Curtis Rey scratched these words onto a 
coconut shell, hoping for an answer:
 On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:57, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
   http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#Packm
  an and then
  
   choose a mirror near you. In Konqueror I just mouse over the
   first USA mirror, right click, Copy Link Address and then go to
   YaST, Software, Installation Source. Click Add, HTTP, Next and in
   the Server Name either middle-click or Ctrl+V the copied link.
   Delete the http://. Then highlight the first slash after the
   server name and domain through the end of the directory list.
   Cut+Paste that into the Directory On Server area and delete the
   leading and trailing slashes. Click Next.
  
snip

 I've been getting a lot of server unreachable and access denied
 do to too many connections today.  I've also been getting these sorts
 of messages on and off over the last month or so.  Pair this with the
 fact that many of the mirrors report the same and in some instances
 flat out aren't there anymore such as the Packman Unixheads ftp
 server.  The kernel mirrors and many at the universities in the U.S.
 often aren't reachable.  This is either due to bandwidth restrictions
 and that limits in said bandwidth hits max during peak hours - such
 as during normal school hours when students (grads. post-docs) are
 using sys resources for their projects - or the University admins
 just set a flat bandwidth that simply max's out.

 The openSUSE sites are the ones that I personally find frustrating. 
 I can't understand why these are unreachable on a fairly regular
 basis.  A couple of reasons come to mind - that the servers are hit
 the max connections.  The repos are being updated (though that
 shouldn't really make a diff) or after updating permissions or
 repodata files aren't sync'ed as they might be.  One other issue may
 be with my ISP - but considering the complaints from others with
 differing providers I also find this unlikely.

 On some of the non-OSS/factory/ and third person repositories such as
 guru, suser, jacklab, etc.  I repeated find issues with gpg-keys not
 being accepted by apps such as yum, smart, etc (and I wonder if this
 may also have to do with YaST not being able to reach the repos).

 Eitherway, just keep checking and posting as to the problems your
 having.  If you've been following the list threads this is not a new
 complaint or issue apparently.

 So in otherwords:  Pt complaints continue, symptoms remain persistent
 and intermittent and cause/etiology undetermined at this time - more
 diagnostic recommended - will continue to follow.  :)

yup, I've had repeted problems reaching many sites w/ great frustration 
following close on. No matter if I try Yast, or Smart, or fill in the 
blank.. even going so far as to add a directory on the local drive. 
That in 10.2 boxed version insists it can't do that because it doesn't 
know what the type is.. even tho there is a way to add a local 
directory to the install sources. I get the same complaints as above.

I'm especially have problems getting the guru site added.. and the 
*problems* repete dosen't know the type, doesn't like the gpgkey... and 
on and on.. It won't even get added using konvenientSuse . I managed 
early on adding it to smart, but haven't got further since Smart also 
doesn't like the gpgkey. shrug

Patience is a virtue to be practised, I guess. And sooner or later I'm 
going to be very practised. 
;-)

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Re: FW: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-11 Thread Curtis Rey
On Thursday 11 January 2007 06:17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed January 10 2007 9:23 pm, Curtis Rey scratched these words onto a

 coconut shell, hoping for an answer:

 yup, I've had repeted problems reaching many sites w/ great frustration
 following close on. No matter if I try Yast, or Smart, or fill in the
 blank.. even going so far as to add a directory on the local drive.
 That in 10.2 boxed version insists it can't do that because it doesn't
 know what the type is.. even tho there is a way to add a local
 directory to the install sources. I get the same complaints as above.

 I'm especially have problems getting the guru site added.. and the
 *problems* repete dosen't know the type, doesn't like the gpgkey... and
 on and on.. It won't even get added using konvenientSuse . I managed
 early on adding it to smart, but haven't got further since Smart also
 doesn't like the gpgkey. shrug

 Patience is a virtue to be practised, I guess. And sooner or later I'm
 going to be very practised.
 ;-)


The gpg-keys have been especially problematic on a number of mirrors.  And 
I've had an especially hard time using V10.0 - since there was no way to 
override the gpg check via YaST (though negating the gpg checks isn't 
preferrable either because one could get nasties that way).  

There was a recent post on the Beta list about the problems with the mirrors 
and gpg/authentication checking - so they are aware of the issue.  And IMHO 
it's much improve since its first inception.  However, problems persist.   
So, we wait and hope for a resolution.  As they said on the Beta list - 
they're trying.

Cheers, Curtis.

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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-10 Thread J. Scott Thayer M.D.

  
   Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll get
   it. Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a new game
   that's a real time strategy game ported from windows is available as
   well - WarZone 2100 (command and conqueor type).  Works nicely as well
   and fun!
 
I have been unable to add a new installation source in YAST and  wondered if 
you could use adding the Packman Repo (an often mentioned resource) as an 
example of how this is done. I've not had success after reading the Start-Up 
guide and tinkering a fair bit. I am sure I am just missing something simple. 
Thanks.
S
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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-10 Thread S Glasoe
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 13:21, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll
get it. Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a
new game that's a real time strategy game ported from windows is
available as well - WarZone 2100 (command and conqueor type). 
Works nicely as well and fun!

 I have been unable to add a new installation source in YAST and  wondered
 if you could use adding the Packman Repo (an often mentioned resource) as
 an example of how this is done. I've not had success after reading the
 Start-Up guide and tinkering a fair bit. I am sure I am just missing
 something simple. Thanks.
 S

http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#Packman and then 
choose a mirror near you. In Konqueror I just mouse over the first USA 
mirror, right click, Copy Link Address and then go to YaST, Software, 
Installation Source. Click Add, HTTP, Next and in the Server Name either 
middle-click or Ctrl+V the copied link. Delete the http://. Then highlight 
the first slash after the server name and domain through the end of the 
directory list. Cut+Paste that into the Directory On Server area and delete 
the leading and trailing slashes. Click Next.

Any errors at this point are usually due to not getting rid of ftp:// or 
http:// in the Server Name and leading and trailing slashes in the 
Directory on Server areas. Or the server is down, misconfigured, in the 
middle of a mirror process, etc.

Stan
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Re: FW: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-10 Thread Curtis Rey
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 16:57, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
  http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories#Packman and
  then
 
  choose a mirror near you. In Konqueror I just mouse over the first USA
  mirror, right click, Copy Link Address and then go to YaST, Software,
  Installation Source. Click Add, HTTP, Next and in the Server Name either
  middle-click or Ctrl+V the copied link. Delete the http://. Then
  highlight the first slash after the server name and domain through the
  end of the directory list. Cut+Paste that into the Directory On Server
  area and delete the leading and trailing slashes. Click Next.
 
  Any errors at this point are usually due to not getting rid of ftp:// or
  http:// in the Server Name and leading and trailing slashes in the
  Directory on Server areas. Or the server is down, misconfigured, in the
  middle of a mirror process, etc.
 
  Stan

 You know, I followed your instructions and finally a server in Germany
 configured but all the other tries yield a message box that says
 Unable to create installation source...
 Unknown source type...

I've been getting a lot of server unreachable and access denied do to too 
many connections today.  I've also been getting these sorts of messages on 
and off over the last month or so.  Pair this with the fact that many of the 
mirrors report the same and in some instances flat out aren't there anymore 
such as the Packman Unixheads ftp server.  The kernel mirrors and many at the 
universities in the U.S. often aren't reachable.  This is either due to 
bandwidth restrictions and that limits in said bandwidth hits max during peak 
hours - such as during normal school hours when students (grads. post-docs) 
are using sys resources for their projects - or the University admins just 
set a flat bandwidth that simply max's out.  

The openSUSE sites are the ones that I personally find frustrating.  I can't 
understand why these are unreachable on a fairly regular basis.  A couple of 
reasons come to mind - that the servers are hit the max connections.  The 
repos are being updated (though that shouldn't really make a diff) or after 
updating permissions or repodata files aren't sync'ed as they might be.  One 
other issue may be with my ISP - but considering the complaints from others 
with differing providers I also find this unlikely.

On some of the non-OSS/factory/ and third person repositories such as guru, 
suser, jacklab, etc.  I repeated find issues with gpg-keys not being accepted 
by apps such as yum, smart, etc (and I wonder if this may also have to do 
with YaST not being able to reach the repos). 

Eitherway, just keep checking and posting as to the problems your having.  If 
you've been following the list threads this is not a new complaint or issue 
apparently.

So in otherwords:  Pt complaints continue, symptoms remain persistent and 
intermittent and cause/etiology undetermined at this time - more diagnostic 
recommended - will continue to follow.  :)

Cheers, Curtis.

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Re: FW: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-10 Thread S Glasoe
On Wednesday 10 January 2007 18:57, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
 You know, I followed your instructions and finally a server in Germany
 configured but all the other tries yield a message box that says
 Unable to create installation source...
 Unknown source type...

What Curtis said too. Opening those links in a browser should get you to the 
server/directory. The key sub-directory is the repodata one. If that's 
visible then YaST _should_ be able to handle it. I am having no problems 
with any repo's I have defined, today at least. Last week and over the 
weekend I had trouble with one site because the permissions in their 
directory structure were messed up so I couldn't access it. Fixed Monday AM 
though.

Not sure what all the troubles are except to guess that possible bad 
permissions get replicated out from Novell/SUSE, the load is too high on 
the mirror servers for any number of reasons, human error somewhere in the 
mix, etc. 

I don't think its a client side issue where our installs of openSUSE 10.2 
are bad, there's a YaST bug, another zmd headache, etc. I perceive it to be 
on the server side because I don't see comments about chicken sacrifices 
fixing anything. Well, at least mine haven't worked...

Stan
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[opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-09 Thread J. Scott Thayer M.D.

Is FlightGear included in 10.2? I didn't see it on a quick check of YAST.
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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-09 Thread Curtis Rey
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:22, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
 Is FlightGear included in 10.2? I didn't see it on a quick check of YAST.

Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll get it.  
Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a new game that's a 
real time strategy game ported from windows is available as well - WarZone 
2100 (command and conqueor type).  Works nicely as well and fun!

Cheers, Curtis.

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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-09 Thread Bruce Ferrell



Curtis Rey wrote:

On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:22, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:


Is FlightGear included in 10.2? I didn't see it on a quick check of YAST.



Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll get it.  
Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a new game that's a 
real time strategy game ported from windows is available as well - WarZone 
2100 (command and conqueor type).  Works nicely as well and fun!


Cheers, Curtis.



I have the packman repo and no dice when I look with yast
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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-09 Thread Pete Connolly
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 22:27, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
 Curtis Rey wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:22, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
 Is FlightGear included in 10.2? I didn't see it on a quick check of YAST.
 
  Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll get
  it. Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a new game
  that's a real time strategy game ported from windows is available as well
  - WarZone 2100 (command and conqueor type).  Works nicely as well and
  fun!
 
  Cheers, Curtis.

 I have the packman repo and no dice when I look with yast

Hi Bruce

Checking with smart, I get flightgear from:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/i586/FlightGear-0.9.10.29.i586.rpm

and the data file as:

http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.2/repo/oss/suse/noarch/FlightGear-data-0.9.10-21.i586.rpm

or something pretty close to that - I had to type it out rather than cutting 
and pasting :(

Good luck

Cheers

Pete





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Re: [opensuse] FlightGear

2007-01-09 Thread Kai Ponte
On Tuesday 09 January 2007 14:16, Curtis Rey wrote:
 On Tuesday 09 January 2007 11:22, J. Scott Thayer M.D. wrote:
  Is FlightGear included in 10.2? I didn't see it on a quick check of YAST.

 Yep, if you add the Packman repo to the installation source you'll get it.
 Works much better than previous iterations IMHO.  Also a new game that's a
 real time strategy game ported from windows is available as well - WarZone
 2100 (command and conqueor type).  Works nicely as well and fun!

Oooh, nice, thanks! Just installed with SMART.

Just out of curiosity - is there a full-screen mode?


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