Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-12 Thread Anders Johansson
On Sunday 12 November 2006 15:08, James Knott wrote:
> Andreas Hanke wrote:
> > John schrieb:
> >> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
> >> directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
> >> command, it only adds them or the current session.
> >>
> >> How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?
> >
> > Use /etc/profile.local.
> >
> > This file does not exist in a default installation. Just create it,
> > write your stuff into this file and it will be picked up for all
> > subsequent logins of all users.
>
> Assuming he's using bash, what's the difference between that and
> bash.bashrc.local?

Nothing, really. /etc/profile sources bash.bashrc when it runs, for bash 
specific settings

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Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-12 Thread James Knott
Andreas Hanke wrote:
> John schrieb:
>   
>> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
>> directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
>> command, it only adds them or the current session.
>>
>> How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?
>> 
>
> Use /etc/profile.local.
>
> This file does not exist in a default installation. Just create it,
> write your stuff into this file and it will be picked up for all
> subsequent logins of all users.
>
>   
Assuming he's using bash, what's the difference between that and
bash.bashrc.local?

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Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-12 Thread James Knott
John wrote:
> SuSE 10.0
>
> I've just added a utility to my SuSE installation which was built from
> scratch rather than an RPM. Consequently, it has put itself into the
> /opt directory.
>
> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the
> relevant directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use
> the 'export' command, it only adds them or the current session.
>
> How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?

>From /etc/bash.bashrc

# /etc/bash.bashrc for SuSE Linux
#
# PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE /etc/bash.bashrc There are chances that your changes
# will be lost during system upgrades.  Instead use /etc/bash.bashrc.local
# for your local settings, favourite global aliases, VISUAL and EDITOR
# variables, etc ...



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Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-11 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2006-11-11 at 09:52 -, John wrote:

> I've just added a utility to my SuSE installation which was built from scratch
> rather than an RPM. Consequently, it has put itself into the /opt directory.
> 
> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
> directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
> command, it only adds them or the current session.

The easiest way is to put locally made/compiled programs under /usr/local. 
The normal environment is prepared to use that tree by default.

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SOLVED - Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-11 Thread John

Pascal Bleser wrote:

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Andreas Hanke wrote:
  

John schrieb:


In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
command, it only adds them or the current session.

How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?
  

Use /etc/profile.local.

This file does not exist in a default installation. Just create it,
write your stuff into this file and it will be picked up for all
subsequent logins of all users.



Indeed.
e.g.:
- ---8<--
PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
export PATH MANPATH
- ---8<--

An alternative notation (but bash specific):
- ---8<--
export PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
- ---8<--

Though there's normally no need to export them, as they have already
been marked as exported in /etc/profile, so this should be sufficient:
- ---8<--
PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
- ---8<--

But better mark them as export again, just to make sure ;)

Anyhow, another option is to put it as a separate file under
/etc/profile.d/ with a filename that ends in ".sh"

Basically, what /etc/profile does:
- - looks for /etc/profile.local - if it exists, it sources it
- - looks for files as /etc/profile.d/*.sh - and sources those that are
readable

The interesting thing with /etc/profile.d/*.sh is that you can select
what users will get the stuff that's in there through user/group and
access rights.
e.g. if you want some variables/exports/functions/aliases to only be
defined for a certain group of people, you can:
- - create a group for them (groupadd or in yast), e.g. "staff"
- - put those people in that group
- - create e.g. /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh
- - put the export/function/alias definitions in there (e.g. the PATH and
MANPATH stuff as above)
- - chown root:staff /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh
- - chmod 0040 /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh

cheers
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Thanks for your help; I chose to follow Python's example and put a .sh 
file into profiles.d


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Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-11 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Andreas Hanke wrote:
> John schrieb:
>> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
>> directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
>> command, it only adds them or the current session.
>>
>> How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?
> 
> Use /etc/profile.local.
> 
> This file does not exist in a default installation. Just create it,
> write your stuff into this file and it will be picked up for all
> subsequent logins of all users.

Indeed.
e.g.:
- ---8<--
PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
export PATH MANPATH
- ---8<--

An alternative notation (but bash specific):
- ---8<--
export PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
export MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
- ---8<--

Though there's normally no need to export them, as they have already
been marked as exported in /etc/profile, so this should be sufficient:
- ---8<--
PATH=/opt/app/bin:$PATH
MANPATH=/opt/app/man:$MANPATH
- ---8<--

But better mark them as export again, just to make sure ;)

Anyhow, another option is to put it as a separate file under
/etc/profile.d/ with a filename that ends in ".sh"

Basically, what /etc/profile does:
- - looks for /etc/profile.local - if it exists, it sources it
- - looks for files as /etc/profile.d/*.sh - and sources those that are
readable

The interesting thing with /etc/profile.d/*.sh is that you can select
what users will get the stuff that's in there through user/group and
access rights.
e.g. if you want some variables/exports/functions/aliases to only be
defined for a certain group of people, you can:
- - create a group for them (groupadd or in yast), e.g. "staff"
- - put those people in that group
- - create e.g. /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh
- - put the export/function/alias definitions in there (e.g. the PATH and
MANPATH stuff as above)
- - chown root:staff /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh
- - chmod 0040 /etc/profile.d/staff-functions.sh

cheers
- --
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Re: [opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-11 Thread Andreas Hanke
John schrieb:
> In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant
> directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export'
> command, it only adds them or the current session.
> 
> How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?

Use /etc/profile.local.

This file does not exist in a default installation. Just create it,
write your stuff into this file and it will be picked up for all
subsequent logins of all users.

Andreas
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[opensuse] Handling Environment Variables

2006-11-11 Thread John

SuSE 10.0

I've just added a utility to my SuSE installation which was built from 
scratch rather than an RPM. Consequently, it has put itself into the 
/opt directory.


In order to run this app and read its manual, I need to add the relevant 
directories to PATH and MANPATH respectively, but if I use the 'export' 
command, it only adds them or the current session.


How can I add these two paths permanently for all users?

TIA

John
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