Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-24 Thread James Knott
Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Thursday 23 November 2006 08:59, Chris Carlen wrote:
   
 Hi:

 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie, are
 all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If
 so, which ones?
 

 NNTP is Usenet. It is a cesspool of miscreants, trolls, and over-analytical 
 geeks.

 Don't go there.


 ...wait.



 ...I post there...


 ...nevermind.

   

Unfortunately, many ISPs are dropping news groups.  :-(

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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-24 Thread Rajko M
Hi Chris,

On Thursday 23 November 2006 10:59, Chris Carlen wrote:
 Hi:

 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete? 

As you can see, no, it is not obsolete.

 Ie, are
 all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If
 so, which ones?

The message on the openSUSE wiki was a bit confusing. I moved today Novell 
hosted newsgroups in front of external sources to make clear that statement 
about synchronization relates to Gmane and some other web forums (I didn't 
checked is that). If it is OK, than you can use them for reading, but no one 
can post messages from external sources back to Novell server.  

 It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of NNTP
 forums, because each one carries only a subset of the community, and
 thus the probability of having one's post read by an interested party is
 less than with a less subdivided arrangement.

I'm subscribed to all of opensuse groups, and checkup of new postings is fast 
as groups are not oversized, so I'm able to catch all postings I'm interested 
in. That I can't say for this list.

 For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

See above.

 Hmm, browsing the Novell site, I don't even see this list mentioned
 anymore.  It appears to all have been transfered to NNTP/HTTP.  Is there
 a link for subscribing to email lists anymore?
...
See http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate page, instead  :-) 

Apropos news server 
  news://support-forums.novell.com 
is hosting only Novell related newsgroups including few opensuse.
The opensuse groups are liberally moderated, so there is no much of 
negativities that plague regular usenet. 
Server doesn't propagate messages posted on other usenet servers, nor web 
forums, so situation is pretty clean. 
 
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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-24 Thread Bob S
On Thursday 23 November 2006 23:44, Kai Ponte wrote:
 On Thursday 23 November 2006 08:59, Chris Carlen wrote:
  Hi:
 
  With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie,
  are all the messages here correlated with one or another of the
  forums?  If so, which ones?

 NNTP is Usenet. It is a cesspool of miscreants, trolls, and
 over-analytical geeks.

 Don't go there.


 ...wait.



 ...I post there...


 ...nevermind.

  It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of
  NNTP forums, because each one carries only a subset of the
  community, and thus the probability of having one's post read by an
  interested party is less than with a less subdivided arrangement.
 
  For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

 Yeah, this group seems to give good information. You just have to
 avoid the list police.  Ignore them, they'll go away pretty soon.

Hmm...The List Police  will NEVER go away!!!  That is why we do 
not have your self described cesspool of miscreants, trolls, and 
over-analytical geeks.

We managed to make you behave properly and be respectful, didn't we 
:-)

 I find myself going between here, alt.os.linux.suse (NNTP), and the
 various forums.

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[opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Chris Carlen

Hi:

With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie, are 
all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If 
so, which ones?


It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of NNTP 
forums, because each one carries only a subset of the community, and 
thus the probability of having one's post read by an interested party is 
less than with a less subdivided arrangement.


For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

Hmm, browsing the Novell site, I don't even see this list mentioned 
anymore.  It appears to all have been transfered to NNTP/HTTP.  Is there 
a link for subscribing to email lists anymore?


Thanks for comments.


Good day!


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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Stevens
On Thursday 23 November 2006 10:59, Chris Carlen wrote:
 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?

Hell, man, paper is obsolete but look at how many printers are sold.
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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Chris Carlen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-23 17:59]:
 Hmm, browsing the Novell site, I don't even see this list mentioned anymore.  
 It appears to all 
 have been transfered to NNTP/HTTP.  Is there a link for subscribing to email 
 lists anymore?

Of course: http://en.opensuse.org/Mailing_Lists


Regards,
 Bernhard


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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Martin Mielke
Hello Chris,

NNTP is not that new... and, as you correctly say, it has strong and weak 
points.

Anyway, as for your last question, a simple google search will take you to:

http://www.suse.com/en/private/support/online_help/mailinglists/index.html

Happy (un)subscribing!


HTH,
Martin


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Subject: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

Hi:

With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie, are 
all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If 
so, which ones?

It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of NNTP 
forums, because each one carries only a subset of the community, and 
thus the probability of having one's post read by an interested party is 
less than with a less subdivided arrangement.

For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

Hmm, browsing the Novell site, I don't even see this list mentioned 
anymore.  It appears to all have been transfered to NNTP/HTTP.  Is there 
a link for subscribing to email lists anymore?

Thanks for comments.


Good day!


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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Henne Vogelsang
Hi,

On Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 08:59:16, Chris Carlen wrote:

 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?

Which NNTP based support forums? The novell ones? They are not the
authorative user forum. The mailinglists are. The Novell NNTP forums are
just another option to communicate.

 Ie, are all the messages here correlated with one or another of the
 forums?

No.

Henne

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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread steve reilly
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On Thursday 23 November 2006 11:59, Chris Carlen wrote:

obsolete?  
I get probably 200 emails a day from this list.


 Hi:

 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie, are
 all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If
 so, which ones?

 It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of NNTP
 forums, because each one carries only a subset of the community, and
 thus the probability of having one's post read by an interested party is
 less than with a less subdivided arrangement.

 For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

 Hmm, browsing the Novell site, I don't even see this list mentioned
 anymore.  It appears to all have been transfered to NNTP/HTTP.  Is there
 a link for subscribing to email lists anymore?

 Thanks for comments.


 Good day!


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Re: [opensuse] Is this list obsolete?

2006-11-23 Thread Kai Ponte
On Thursday 23 November 2006 08:59, Chris Carlen wrote:
 Hi:

 With the new NNTP based support forums, is this list obsolete?  Ie, are
 all the messages here correlated with one or another of the forums?  If
 so, which ones?

NNTP is Usenet. It is a cesspool of miscreants, trolls, and over-analytical 
geeks.

Don't go there.


...wait.



...I post there...


...nevermind.



 It can be disadvantageous when there are so many sub-categories of NNTP
 forums, because each one carries only a subset of the community, and
 thus the probability of having one's post read by an interested party is
 less than with a less subdivided arrangement.

 For this reason, perhaps this list is still advantageous?

Yeah, this group seems to give good information. You just have to avoid the 
list police.  Ignore them, they'll go away pretty soon.

I find myself going between here, alt.os.linux.suse (NNTP), and the various 
forums.

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