Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-05 Thread Curtis Rey
On Saturday 02 June 2007, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
  The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can
  be installed at the same time.

 what does it mean by /usr prefix?
/usr stands for unix system resources.  Previously to KDE4, KDE on SuSE was 
installed in the /opt directory, which stands for optional as a 
desktop/window manager in Linux (or nix back in the day) didn't need a gui 
and therefore it was (and by a few still is) considered optional.  RedHat 
always defaulted to Gnome and it was installed in the /usr dir, and the same 
for the other desktops/windows managers - in RH they default to the /usr 
directory - Only SuSE used the /opt directory for the desktop root directory.

HTH, Curtis. 


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-05 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:30, Curtis Rey wrote:
 On Saturday 02 June 2007, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
   The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and
   KDE4 can be installed at the same time.
 
  what does it mean by /usr prefix?

 /usr stands for unix system resources.

That is at best a back-formation. The directory name /usr is 
historical and goes back at least to version 7 Unix from Bell Labs and 
is simply a classic Unix three-letter abbreviation for user. At the 
time, it was where user's home directories conventionally resided.


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 HTH, Curtis


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-03 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Sunday 03 June 2007 00:37, Richard Bos wrote:

 The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
 installed at the same time.

Another point were SUSE does not dare to be different from RH?
RH already puts everything in /usr and strictly speaking, I 
hate that. No matter what the FHS says about it, it's dumb.


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[opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

Hi All,

Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.

1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
my total system?

(I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
to contribute to development.)

Thanks,

Soyuz
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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread John E. Perry
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
 http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.
 
 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?
 

I'vwe never tried this with kde, but when I had to test programs under
several compilers at work, I handled it by installing the compilers and
their libraries to /opt/version, then writing a shell script that
linked them to /usr and /etc.  When I needed to change compiler, I
executed the script for that version.

I can't see why this wouldn't work for a window manager.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op Saturday 02 June 2007 12:27:13 schreef Mohammad Bhuyan:
 Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
 http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.

 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

As stated on the wiki page:
The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be 
installed at the same time.

So yes, kde3 and kde4 are installed in parallel.

 2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

I guess so.  The same way as you can choose between gnome, kde, etc.
But kde4 information is installed in ~/.kde4

 3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
 to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
 my total system?

 (I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
 if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
 to contribute to development.)

See above it is seperated from kde3.  But you can always start with the kde4 
live CD.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
installed at the same time.


what does it mean by /usr prefix?

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 16:43, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
  The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4
  can be installed at the same time.

 what does it mean by /usr prefix?

All the files it installs reside in a subdirectory of the /usr 
directory. In KDE version 3.x, all the files were in a subdirectory 
of /opt. Thus the two can coexist on a single system without 
interfering with each other.


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