Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-20 Thread Jan Engelhardt

>> >Not here! I see the UTF entry ticked and grayed
>> 
>> Please read what I said. vc is not xterm.
>
>And... what is vc?

Well, what is /dev/tty1 if it is not vc? (= virtual console)


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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-20 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Wednesday 2006-12-20 at 15:01 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> >Not here! I see the UTF entry ticked and grayed
> 
> Please read what I said. vc is not xterm.

And... what is vc?

I am the OP, and I'm asking for a procedure for xterm, not whatever is vc :-|

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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-20 Thread Jan Engelhardt

>> >> Although someone mentioned it might be an application bug, try using the 
>> >> command  'reset'  to reset the xterm session.   Works when you happen to 
>> >> type 
>> >> a binary file also.
>> >
>> >I had tried that, also. It does reset the font and background colours, but 
>> >not the cursor.
>> 
>> And it resets vc to non-utf mode. Boom. Don't use.


>Not here! I see the UTF entry ticked and grayed

Please read what I said. vc is not xterm.



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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-20 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2006-12-19 at 21:28 +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> >> Although someone mentioned it might be an application bug, try using the 
> >> command  'reset'  to reset the xterm session.   Works when you happen to 
> >> type 
> >> a binary file also.
> >
> >I had tried that, also. It does reset the font and background colours, but 
> >not the cursor.
> 
> And it resets vc to non-utf mode. Boom. Don't use.

Not here! I see the UTF entry ticked and grayed (right button menu). SuSE 
10.1 yet. The euro symbol works fine there (I use another xterm in ISO 
mode for mail with Pine, so I can't type euro in this one).

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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Seth Arnold
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 04:17:34PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> When exiting a program inside an xterm sometimes the display is not left 
> as it was before. For instance, 'mc' sometimes leaves the cursor as white 
> box on white background, a bit difficult to see. Minicom leaves it as 
> yellow on white. All this after the "clear" and "reset" commands.
> 
> Any other possibility to reset it (black box on white background)?

You can try also some escape sequences:
echo ^Vc
echo ^V[2J

http://www.cs.csubak.edu/newsite/index.php?t=1&p=technical_info/tables_charts/vt100_escape_codes

Plenty more to try. :)


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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Jan Engelhardt

>> Although someone mentioned it might be an application bug, try using the 
>> command  'reset'  to reset the xterm session.   Works when you happen to 
>> type 
>> a binary file also.
>
>I had tried that, also. It does reset the font and background colours, but 
>not the cursor.

And it resets vc to non-utf mode. Boom. Don't use.


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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2006-12-19 at 11:44 -0500, Bruce Marshall wrote:

> Although someone mentioned it might be an application bug, try using the 
> command  'reset'  to reset the xterm session.   Works when you happen to type 
> a binary file also.

I had tried that, also. It does reset the font and background colours, but 
not the cursor.

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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2006-12-19 at 16:27 +0100, Manfred Hollstein wrote:

> This is clearly an application bug; if an application changes some
> attributes of the display, it is responsible to reset them to the
> initial status when it is closed. I'd call this gentle behaviour, at
> least. 

Right. Now that you mention that, I remember than I have this problem 
after I kill some app, so they didn't have much chance.

> You can reset the xterm, however, by pressing the Ctrl key and
> clicking the middle mouse button inside the xterm; this pops up a menu
> from which you can choose to do a "Soft Reset" or a "Full Reset".

I had tried that before, didn't work.

However, I was using "less file" on that xterm and that did reset it... 
curious. Or it exited leaving what it had used internally.

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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Bruce Marshall
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 10:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Of course, I can close that xterm and start another, but perhaps there is
> a way. Is it an xterm bug? An application bug?

Although someone mentioned it might be an application bug, try using the 
command  'reset'  to reset the xterm session.   Works when you happen to type 
a binary file also.
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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Jan Engelhardt

On Dec 19 2006 16:27, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
>On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, 16:17:34 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>> I have a smallish problem.

And I have exactly the same and yet the opposite.. :)

>> When exiting a program inside an xterm sometimes the display is not left 
>> as it was before. For instance, 'mc' sometimes leaves the cursor as white 
>> box on white background, a bit difficult to see. Minicom leaves it as 
>> yellow on white. All this after the "clear" and "reset" commands.
>> 
>> Any other possibility to reset it (black box on white background)?

Since I use a black background by default, the cursor is changed - mostly due
to action in mcedit - from the regular gray to black, making it defacto
invisible. However, this is not limited to mcedit. PINE also sometimes changes
the cursor color to do the inverse of (inverse color).

>> Of course, I can close that xterm and start another, but perhaps there is 
>> a way. Is it an xterm bug? An application bug?
>
>This is clearly an application bug; if an application changes some
>attributes of the display, it is responsible to reset them to the
>initial status when it is closed. I'd call this gentle behaviour, at
>least. You can reset the xterm, however, by pressing the Ctrl key and
>clicking the middle mouse button inside the xterm; this pops up a menu
>from which you can choose to do a "Soft Reset" or a "Full Reset".

The issue should _not_ be seen in the console since it uses a hardware cursor
whose color cannot be changed.


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Re: [opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Manfred Hollstein
Hi there,

On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, 16:17:34 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a smallish problem.
> 
> When exiting a program inside an xterm sometimes the display is not left 
> as it was before. For instance, 'mc' sometimes leaves the cursor as white 
> box on white background, a bit difficult to see. Minicom leaves it as 
> yellow on white. All this after the "clear" and "reset" commands.
> 
> Any other possibility to reset it (black box on white background)?
> 
> Of course, I can close that xterm and start another, but perhaps there is 
> a way. Is it an xterm bug? An application bug?

This is clearly an application bug; if an application changes some
attributes of the display, it is responsible to reset them to the
initial status when it is closed. I'd call this gentle behaviour, at
least. You can reset the xterm, however, by pressing the Ctrl key and
clicking the middle mouse button inside the xterm; this pops up a menu
from which you can choose to do a "Soft Reset" or a "Full Reset".

> Cheers,
>Carlos Robinson

HTH, cheers.

l8er
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[opensuse] Resetting xterm?

2006-12-19 Thread Carlos E. R.
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Hi,

I have a smallish problem.

When exiting a program inside an xterm sometimes the display is not left 
as it was before. For instance, 'mc' sometimes leaves the cursor as white 
box on white background, a bit difficult to see. Minicom leaves it as 
yellow on white. All this after the "clear" and "reset" commands.

Any other possibility to reset it (black box on white background)?

Of course, I can close that xterm and start another, but perhaps there is 
a way. Is it an xterm bug? An application bug?

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