Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list

2007-10-14 Thread Carlos E. R.

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The Saturday 2007-10-13 at 23:12 -0600, John Meyer wrote:


Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the
majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just
did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the
answer to cause I'll never see your request.



Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you?  Anyway, in as rare
as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer.
Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego.


You are misguided.

Many of the most knowledgeable people will do the same, without bothering 
to tell you why they ignore your emails. Not your's personally, but those 
of most topposters.


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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list

2007-10-14 Thread Andre Truter
[...]
> > Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the
> > majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just
> > did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the
> > answer to cause I'll never see your request.
> >
> >
> Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you?  Anyway, in as rare
> as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer.
> Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego.
>

It is not a matter of Ken's ego.  There are a lot of people with
technical skills that will ignore top-posted threads.  Not everybody
mentions it like Ken did.  I would guess that by top-posting you
reduce your chance of getting an answer by half.

The thing is that this is a technical list where top posting is
against the general rule.  We ask you nicely not to top post and there
are perfectly good reasons for that on a technical list.
So, if you deem yourself important enough to ignore that rule then how
does that make you any different of what you are accusing Ken of?

In my personal opinion, plain bottom posting is also an evil on
technical lists.  Inline posting makes the most sense on technical
lists.
Remember that a mailing list like this is a technical resource and the
knowledge contained in it is valid for years.

Try to solve a problem on SuSE 9.3 for instance.  You search the lists
and you find a thread that discuss the problem.  If people did not
follow inline posting, then you would end up scrolling up and down a
number of emails in the thread to follow the flow in order to get to
the answer you seek.  If people followed the preferred posting rules,
it is a matter of just following the thread and it reads all logical.
No scrolling around.  You can normally get the picture with the first
glance at the mail and you normally find your answer in the first or
second hit.

See why we dislike top-posting so much?

Nobody can read every email posted to this list.  I scan the subjects
for interesting threads every now and again.  When I find one I go in
and see if there is anything I can learn or help with.  Most of the
time the thread already have a few mails in it and if I have to scroll
up and down an email trying to catch the thread of it, I ignore it.
Many other people do the same thing and you end up loosing the
interest of a lot of people who might have helped you.  Not only Ken.

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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list

2007-10-13 Thread John Meyer
Kenneth Schneider wrote:
> On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:14 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
>   
>> While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have
>> nothing against either top or bottom posting.   You can make reasonable
>> arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice.  One
>> caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would
>> think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're
>> not commenting on.  I think you'd have a major  problem if you quoted
>> six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two.  Also, I would
>> be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote)
>> improperly with the quote.
>>
>> 
>
> Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the
> majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just
> did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the
> answer to cause I'll never see your request.
>
>   
Boy, seems you think a lot of yourself, don't you?  Anyway, in as rare
as you are, I'm pretty sure I can find somebody else with the answer. 
Hope you have fun basking in your own overinflated ego.
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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list!

2007-10-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 19:52 -0500, Billie Walsh wrote:
> On 10/13/2007 sfreilly wrote:
> >  ok, we might as well take bets on how long this thread is going to 
> > last
> > before the last post is made.  I say sometime near halloween , any
> > takers??
> > 
> > here we go AGAINlol
> 
> I got Nov. 4, 2007 at 00:00Z
> 

I think Henne will take care of it before that.

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Re: [opensuse] Top posting is just fine - NOT on this list

2007-10-13 Thread Kenneth Schneider

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 17:14 -0600, John Meyer wrote:
> While I hate to bring this back to topic (I'm a bud man myself), I have
> nothing against either top or bottom posting.   You can make reasonable
> arguments for either style, therefore it is a matter of choice.  One
> caveat, though: if you bottom post or interthread your responses I would
> think that you should go out of your way to delete material that you're
> not commenting on.  I think you'd have a major  problem if you quoted
> six paragraphs only to comment on the first one or two.  Also, I would
> be much more worried if you cut the intro line (so-and-so wrote)
> improperly with the quote.
> 

Just do what I do with the ones that can't to go with the wishes of the
majority on this list, create a filter to delete their posts like I just
did with you John. I hope some day you don't ask a question I had the
answer to cause I'll never see your request.

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Ken Schneider
UNIX  since 1989, linux since 1994, SuSE  since 1998

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