Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-28 Thread James Knott

Zhang Weiwu wrote:

On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 07:18 -0400, James Knott wrote:
  


You used Windows PPTP VPN, which forces the default route through the
tunnel.  I use OpenVPN, on both Linux and Windows.  It works well and
does not force the default route.



Ah, enlightened. I should have known the Microsoft stuff wouldn't be as
flexible as we need.

  
Is it ever?  After many years of using OS/2 and Linux, whenever I have 
to use Windows, I feel as though I'm working with one hand tied behind 
my back.


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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-27 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 07:18 -0400, James Knott wrote:
> Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:22 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
> >> server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that both
> >> office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
> >> server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
> >> work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
> >> software.
> >> 
> >
> > Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial
> > into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve
> > the problem, but I think it's over complicated.
> >
> > Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows
> > the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection
> > is "hidden" for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same
> > office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable
> > for us.
> >
> >   
> You used Windows PPTP VPN, which forces the default route through the
> tunnel.  I use OpenVPN, on both Linux and Windows.  It works well and
> does not force the default route.

Ah, enlightened. I should have known the Microsoft stuff wouldn't be as
flexible as we need.

> 
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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-23 Thread James Knott
Zhang Weiwu wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:22 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:
>
>   
>> I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
>> server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that both
>> office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
>> server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
>> work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
>> software.
>> 
>
> Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial
> into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve
> the problem, but I think it's over complicated.
>
> Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows
> the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection
> is "hidden" for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same
> office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable
> for us.
>
>   
You used Windows PPTP VPN, which forces the default route through the
tunnel.  I use OpenVPN, on both Linux and Windows.  It works well and
does not force the default route.

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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-22 Thread edwin
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:22:26 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote
> Dear List

> 
> I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
> server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that 
> both office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
> server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
> work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
> software.
> 
> Both offices use OpenSuSE as desktop computer and the server runs Gentoo
> Linux. Both offices are behind each one's NAT firewall.
> 


Setup a VPN in both sides. Netgear has a small box that can serve as Wireless
acces point and VPN goodies (we use Netgear FWG 114P in front of router).
Setting up IKE and VPN on this tiny stuf is easy. Make sure you can ping the
internal IP of the other side. Do it for both sites.

For VOIP implementation in linux you can use asterisk. Install asterisk in the
server for PABX server. Digium has line of card products that you should
choose as a FXO port in addition to that server. Connect the port of Digium to
IP telephone, Grandstream for example has special IP phone that you can choose.

For one VOIP/SIP connection it needs around 20-30 kbps. You should aware of
this one.

See asterisk in www.asterisk.org

regards,
edwin 
 
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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 21:54 -0500, Sunny wrote:

> You can setup Jabber server and use it. servers:
> http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml, clients:
> http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.shtml

We have a jabber server installed there and running for several years.
Question: how can jabber server help VOIP at all?


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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-22 Thread Sunny

On 3/22/07, Zhang Weiwu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:22 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
> server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that both
> office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
> server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
> work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
> software.

Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial
into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve
the problem, but I think it's over complicated.

Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows
the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection
is "hidden" for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same
office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable
for us.



If you go with VPN solution you can use openvpn - that way you can
setup exactly which IPs you want to route trough the vpn, and then any
p2p VOIP software should work. Plenty of them for linux (including
GAIM). You can setup Jabber server and use it. servers:
http://www.jabber.org/software/servers.shtml, clients:
http://www.jabber.org/software/clients.shtml

Or you can take a look at http://www.asterisk.org/

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Re: [opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 10:22 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote:

> I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
> server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that both
> office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
> server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
> work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
> software.

Certainly THIS would work: set up VPN on the server and both office dial
into the VPN before they start to use some SIP software. This can solve
the problem, but I think it's over complicated.

Besides, I never tried VPN on Linux, only did it on Windows: on windows
the downside is once a host has dialed up VPN, local network connection
is "hidden" for it, that I can no longer access the hosts in the same
office that has not yet dialed in the same VPN. This is not acceptable
for us.

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[opensuse] VOIP solution?

2007-03-22 Thread Zhang Weiwu
Dear List

We are a tiny business running in China. In China ISP competition is not
very healthy, 2 major ISPs: China Telcom, China Netcom both defend their
own business by limiting network access to other ISP.

We have an office in Beijing, in Beijing there is only one ISP company
(monoplay business) that is China Netcom so they "choose" to use it. 
We have an office in Xiamen, in Xiamen there is only one ISP company
(monoplay business) that is China Telcom, so we "choose" to use it. 
We also have a server hosted by a hosting company, that company is very
smart, using some very special technology to connect both ISP.

Transfer data from our Xiamen Office to Beijing => 3 ~ 10 KB/s, no
connection can maintain 10 minutes. Transfer data from Beijing to Xiamen
is the same slow.

In Xiamen, transfer data from / to our server is 100KB/s; in Beijing
exactly the same.

We used to use skype, but quality isn't very high nor very realiable
because only a few super-nodes have fast access to both ISP. Besides we
got a few other problems too related to skype / gizmo.

I am thinking perhaps it's not difficult to set up some software on the
server that do the "routing", e.g. it serve as a call center that both
office login to a VOIP software and it connects to the server, the
server talk to both sides. This is the fastest solution and it should
work. That's only my imagination, I am still searching for such
software.

Both offices use OpenSuSE as desktop computer and the server runs Gentoo
Linux. Both offices are behind each one's NAT firewall.

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Real Softservice
http://www.realss.com
+86 592 2091112

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