Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 opensuse repo?

2008-01-20 Thread CF
Chris Arnold wrote:
> I want to install 10.3 on a test drive and during that install of 10.3, 
> install kde4 from opensuse repo. I look through KDE on opensuse and see 
> KDE Backports
> KDE Core Packages
> KDE Community
> KDE Playground
> KDE 4
> 
> Which one do i use to get stable KDE4? Or do you have to get it from KDE.org?

You should use KDE4 repository.
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[opensuse] KDE 4 opensuse repo?

2008-01-11 Thread Chris Arnold
I want to install 10.3 on a test drive and during that install of 10.3, 
install kde4 from opensuse repo. I look through KDE on opensuse and see 
KDE Backports
KDE Core Packages
KDE Community
KDE Playground
KDE 4

Which one do i use to get stable KDE4? Or do you have to get it from KDE.org?
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Re: [opensuse] kde 4

2007-12-27 Thread Joop Boonen
See: http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4

If you also want to do some developer testing:
You can also install 11.0 Alpha0 but then you need to do a factory
update or the foctory install of KDE4 as mentioned on the link above. As
KDE4 of alpha doesn't work yet.
http://software.opensuse.org/developer

William Biggs wrote:
> I would like to know how it install kde 4 
>
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Re: [opensuse] kde 4

2007-12-26 Thread Anders Johansson
On Thursday 27 December 2007 02:32:02 William Biggs wrote:
> I would like to know how it install kde 4

http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4

If you're running 10.3, scroll down to "Installation", then click the blue 
icon that says "KDE 4 Desktop"

Anders

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[opensuse] kde 4

2007-12-26 Thread William Biggs
I would like to know how it install kde 4 

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-05 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 01:30, Curtis Rey wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2007, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> > > "The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and
> > > KDE4 can be installed at the same time."
> >
> > what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?
>
> /usr stands for "unix system resources".

That is at best a back-formation. The directory name "/usr" is 
historical and goes back at least to version 7 Unix from Bell Labs and 
is simply a classic Unix three-letter abbreviation for "user." At the 
time, it was where user's home directories conventionally resided.


> ...
> HTH, Curtis


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-05 Thread Curtis Rey
On Saturday 02 June 2007, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> > "The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can
> > be installed at the same time."
>
> what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?
/usr stands for "unix system resources".  Previously to KDE4, KDE on SuSE was 
installed in the /opt directory, which stands for "optional" as a 
desktop/window manager in Linux (or nix back in the day) didn't need a gui 
and therefore it was (and by a few still is) considered "optional".  RedHat 
always defaulted to Gnome and it was installed in the /usr dir, and the same 
for the other desktops/windows managers - in RH they default to the /usr 
directory - Only SuSE used the /opt directory for the desktop root directory.

HTH, Curtis. 


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-03 Thread Janne Karhunen
On Sunday 03 June 2007 00:37, Richard Bos wrote:

> "The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
> installed at the same time."

Another point were SUSE does not dare to be different from RH?
RH already puts everything in /usr and strictly speaking, I 
hate that. No matter what the FHS says about it, it's dumb.


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[opensuse] KDE 4 (Paralllel to KDE 3 on OpenSUSE 10.2) installation issues

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

Hi All,

Trying to install factory build of the KDE 4 on my exisitng openSUSE
10.2 (KDE 3.5.7 upgraded) . Following the instructions from
(http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4).

1. Using YaST, added the factory repository to installation source.

2. Not knowing what are the packages I need to install to get a KDE 4
desktop with basic apps, I tried installing (i) kde4-meta-base (ii)
kde4-meta-default & (iii) kdebase4-session.But Faced with yast
conflict list (attached with the email).

3. In the openSUSE wiki it is said that

"The kde4-meta-base package depends on the packages for a basic KDE4
desktop while ..."

which doesn't made any sense to me. If it is dependent then what is
that dependency list?

finally all I am looking for is to install a basic kde4 desktop
installation. Please advise?

Thanks,

Soyuz
 YaST2 conflicts list - generated 2007-06-03 11:48:50 

kde4-kopete-3.90.1.svn668132-7.1.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due 
to missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of libqca.so.2 for 
kde4-kopete-3.90.1.svn668132-7.1.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
(x) do not install kde4-kopete
( ) Ignore this requirement just here
kde4-meta-default-3.90.1-2.3.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due to 
missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of phonon_gst for 
kde4-meta-default-3.90.1-2.3.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kde4-meta-default
( ) Ignore this requirement just here
kdelibs4-3.90.1.svn670163-3.2.i586[20070603-103316] cannot be installed due to 
missing dependencies
There are no installable providers of kdelibs4-icons for 
kdelibs4-3.90.1.svn670163-3.2.i586[20070603-103316]
Conflict Resolution:
( ) do not install kdelibs4
( ) Ignore this requirement just here

 YaST2 conflicts list END ###


Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Randall R Schulz
On Saturday 02 June 2007 16:43, Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> > "The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4
> > can be installed at the same time."
>
> what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?

All the files it installs reside in a subdirectory of the /usr 
directory. In KDE version 3.x, all the files were in a subdirectory 
of /opt. Thus the two can coexist on a single system without 
interfering with each other.


> -- Soyuz


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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

"The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be
installed at the same time."


what does it mean by "/usr prefix"?

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Richard Bos
Op Saturday 02 June 2007 12:27:13 schreef Mohammad Bhuyan:
> Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
> http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.
>
> 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

As stated on the wiki page:
"The KDE4 packages install into the /usr prefix hence KDE3 and KDE4 can be 
installed at the same time."

So yes, kde3 and kde4 are installed in parallel.

> 2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

I guess so.  The same way as you can choose between gnome, kde, etc.
But kde4 information is installed in ~/.kde4

> 3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
> to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
> my total system?
>
> (I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
> if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
> to contribute to development.)

See above it is seperated from kde3.  But you can always start with the kde4 
live CD.

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Re: [opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread John E. Perry
Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
> http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.
> 
> 1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?
> 

I'vwe never tried this with kde, but when I had to test programs under
several compilers at work, I handled it by installing the compilers and
their libraries to /opt/, then writing a shell script that
linked them to /usr and /etc.  When I needed to change compiler, I
executed the script for that version.

I can't see why this wouldn't work for a window manager.

John Perry
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[opensuse] KDE 4 in parallel to KDE 3 on openSUSE 10.2, possible?

2007-06-02 Thread Mohammad Bhuyan

Hi All,

Writing to the list as the instruction provided in opensuse wiki (
http://en.opensuse.org/KDE4 ) was not clear enough for me.

1. Can I install KDE 4 parallel to my KDE 3.5.7 (latest release) on 10.2?

2. If yes, should I expect a option to choose KDE 3 / KDE 4 at my login?

3. I am assuming that I will have to get the KDE packages for specific
to 4. which is OK with me. But how likely it is to break my existing
my total system?

(I can't afford to break my current working desktop so please advise
if the whole idea is not very wise. I am interested as I am interested
to contribute to development.)

Thanks,

Soyuz
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