Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 15:50, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Wed December 20 2006 11:12 am, Mike McMullin scratched these words > > onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > > On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:01 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: /snip/ > > > > Yes indeed. :/ I understand that someone in the U.S. wants to > > "chip" people with their medical records/ ID info. Personally as far > > as biometric authentication goes, Thanks, but, NO THANKS! > > Yes, but then you don't have Alzheimers, or a chronic problem that can > render you unconcious and unable to tell responders what has happened. > Those were the only folks that were even considered.. the chip in that > case was similar to the things they implant into pets for the same > reasons. ( They can't talk ) > /snip/ The chip inserted into a pet does not contain anything but a pointer to a database. It does not (AFAIK) even contain the pet's name. IOW, it's a numeral only. Perhaps 10 years down the line, a chip could contain medical records, but I don't believe the technology is here yet. You can't even get doctors in the US to computerize and share their records with other doctors. Every time you need to see a new doctor, you have to fill out a big form, with most of your medical history--as you may know it-- thereon. So I don't think chipping people is close at hand. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-12-20 at 15:50 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... > Yes, but then you don't have Alzheimers, or a chronic problem that can > render you unconcious and unable to tell responders what has happened. > Those were the only folks that were even considered.. the chip in that > case was similar to the things they implant into pets for the same > reasons. ( They can't talk ) They are using them here as a payment method for discos! As simple as that. I think they have started using them before the authorities knew it was possible or that people would voluntarily use them. Other method employed, for the elderly with bad memory, is a chip in their shoes. If they cross the outside gate, the janitor is warned. They would get lost without that, and this way they don't need locked gates. However, what I was thinking of was biometric info in credit cards, like fingerprint info. I have heard of thieves chopping the owner fingers to steal the money. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFibT4tTMYHG2NR9URAvsFAJ9Fv5B3zUkFudV5a/zO8tzL8YawmACfVGLJ 7SOaRp9yuIqjpjwTBhESKLo= =vjV/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Wed December 20 2006 11:12 am, Mike McMullin scratched these words onto a coconut shell, hoping for an answer: > On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:01 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > The Wednesday 2006-12-20 at 16:45 +0100, jdd wrote: > > > better have a silicon chip into the head > > > > And then someone will chop your head to get your codes. Or your > > finger for your fingerprint, or... > > > > :-( > > Yes indeed. :/ I understand that someone in the U.S. wants to > "chip" people with their medical records/ ID info. Personally as far > as biometric authentication goes, Thanks, but, NO THANKS! Yes, but then you don't have Alzheimers, or a chronic problem that can render you unconcious and unable to tell responders what has happened. Those were the only folks that were even considered.. the chip in that case was similar to the things they implant into pets for the same reasons. ( They can't talk ) However, because of privacy concerns the FDA refused them the certification. And my friends Alzheimer afflicted elderly father , who gets lost all the time because he goes out for a walk, and forgets where he was, nevermind knowing where he is. Well, he will have to wear one of those GPS ankle bracelets like a criminal.. but at least they can find him before he would, for instance, freeze to death in winter, or have other exposure problems in summer. ( And yes, he does have minders, but no one can watch a person every minute of the day and night.Not even a whole staff of folks can keep track of the wanderers. ) How many times , here in the states, have you heard alerts because someone , usually a kid, or one w/ a kids mental abilities, gets lost. Got on the wrong bus, took a wrong turn to their classrooms, and now no one knows where the heck they are. So suddenly the airwaves are filled w/ appeals for folks to be on the lookout for them. Usually it doesn't end well. It *should* be the choice of the person , if they are capable, or their guardian, if they are not. Not the ACLU and others similar. just my $.02 -- j -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 07:19, James Knott wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I > > really hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character > > password. I would be just as happy to bypass the password stuff > > altogether, but I have a simple password that I want to use on > > everything. It has 5 characters, and I can remember it. Please keep > > people like me in mind. Thank you. > > Now, please explain how they'll be able to tell the difference between > you and someone who needs better security. > As I recall, SUSE only warns you about weak passwords. It doesn't stop > you from using one. In fact, you can even configure it for automatic > login. I tried to install some kind of video program the other day and when it told me to issue a password, I tried my usual one, and it said I had to have eight characters. It didn't offer me a choice. I don't remember what the program was, at this point. I aborted the install. I have no quarrel with anyone who wants or needs a more complex password, but I don't want to be forced to select one which I will immediately forget unless I do write it on a note by the computer. That's what I have had to do with PayPal, for instance. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
* Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [12-20-06 12:28]: > > Se ti riferisci a quella in cui dicevi che sabato avresti mandato gli > > script, sì... > > Altre non ne ho ricevute. > > Ciao > > Yassir, that shore looks like eye-tallyun to me. er Naveho... -- Patrick ShanahanRegistered Linux User #207535 http://wahoo.no-ip.org@ http://counter.li.org HOG # US1244711 Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 OpenSUSE Linux http://en.opensuse.org/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: > > Se ti riferisci a quella in cui dicevi che sabato avresti mandato gli > script, sì... > Altre non ne ho ricevute. > Ciao Yassir, that shore looks like eye-tallyun to me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
R: Re: [opensuse] passwords
Se ti riferisci a quella in cui dicevi che sabato avresti mandato gli script, sì... Altre non ne ho ricevute. Ciao Messaggio originale Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Data: 20-dic-2006 4.45 PM A: Cc: Ogg: Re: [opensuse] passwords Doug McGarrett a écrit : > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really > hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would > be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple > password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can > remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. > > --doug the passwd problem is quite irritating. I have a full folder (paper) with passwd. some Internet sites don't accept pass longuer than 5 chars, others insists to have 8+ and numbers as well as chars... and anyway as soon as a passwd is too complicated, one need to write it down to remember. better have a silicon chip into the head jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin. org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Wed, 2006-12-20 at 17:01 +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > The Wednesday 2006-12-20 at 16:45 +0100, jdd wrote: > > > better have a silicon chip into the head > > And then someone will chop your head to get your codes. Or your finger for > your fingerprint, or... > > :-( Yes indeed. :/ I understand that someone in the U.S. wants to "chip" people with their medical records/ ID info. Personally as far as biometric authentication goes, Thanks, but, NO THANKS! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Wednesday 2006-12-20 at 16:45 +0100, jdd wrote: > better have a silicon chip into the head And then someone will chop your head to get your codes. Or your finger for your fingerprint, or... :-( - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFiV4/tTMYHG2NR9URAnUFAJ0SEMLRKIEnF9WrjCIvZfDdzIsuAwCeNDcG nfygOPUlKynEBC5edkH9wpo= =Mv9M -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
Doug McGarrett a écrit : To all the folks who write code for Linux: I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. --doug the passwd problem is quite irritating. I have a full folder (paper) with passwd. some Internet sites don't accept pass longuer than 5 chars, others insists to have 8+ and numbers as well as chars... and anyway as soon as a passwd is too complicated, one need to write it down to remember. better have a silicon chip into the head jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-12-19 at 23:36 -0500, Doug McGarrett wrote: > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really > hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would > be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple > password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can > remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. You can change the password settings in Yast. However, as you use email, you probably have some kind of internet connection: please make sure that nobody can connect to your machine from internet and start guessing passwords - even if you don't care about your data in the computer, there are people out there hunting for PCs to convert into zombies and attack other people with them, for instance. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFiVgGtTMYHG2NR9URAhSKAKCKiGh6zN0xOqoStwVOKr6Q9J5QRgCbBKH2 C4cTxxmX7WdvajQGXnJGVVg= =19Hp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
> > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I > > really hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character > > password. Please note, that it is not only people with physical access that you need to keep out. Do you use the internet, you should you just send us an email than you weak password can let someone on the internet in your computer. If you are not afraid of someone crashing your machine or stealing information from it then consider the fact that it may be used for a purpose you do not agree with or even thought possible. Do not get me wrong I have to remember a bunch of passwords myself, and it is not pleasant, but you can use the KDE wallet or if you feel comfortable OpenSSH or GPG some sort of encrypted file would be good too. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 04:19, James Knott wrote: > Doug McGarrett wrote: > > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I > > really hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character > > password. I would be just as happy to bypass the password stuff > > altogether, but I have a simple password that I want to use on > > everything. It has 5 characters, and I can remember it. Please keep > > people like me in mind. Thank you. > > Now, please explain how they'll be able to tell the difference between > you and someone who needs better security. > As I recall, SUSE only warns you about weak passwords. It doesn't stop > you from using one. In fact, you can even configure it for automatic > login. Yes - all my SUSE systems have auto login. I suppose the OP could even use root as the main user or a root equivalent. A very bad idea and not worth the trouble, IMO, but it could be done. -- kai www.perfectreign.com || www.4thedadz.com a turn signal is a statement, not a request -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
Doug McGarrett wrote: > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really > hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would > be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple > password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can > remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. > Now, please explain how they'll be able to tell the difference between you and someone who needs better security. As I recall, SUSE only warns you about weak passwords. It doesn't stop you from using one. In fact, you can even configure it for automatic login. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
>To all the folks who write code for Linux: The linux kernel has nothing to do with password management. >I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really >hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would You are not restricted to 8 characters. I for example use a 2-character pw at home (external logins only per ssh key). Or, you can also have more than 8, if that was which you were complaining about. Heck, if you think of your password being so annoying/worthless/nonprivate, just write it onto a PostIt note and stick it on the screen. >be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple >password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can >remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. > >--doug >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -`J' -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse] passwords
On Tuesday 19 December 2006 22:36, Doug McGarrett wrote: > To all the folks who write code for Linux: > > I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really > hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would > be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple > password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can > remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. > > --doug Hi Doug. Have you considered going into the YaST Security settings and adjusting the password settings to your liking? h -- JAY VOLLMER[EMAIL PROTECTED] TEXT REFS DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD SELFTHINK VERGING CRIMETHINK - IGNORE FULLWISE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse] passwords
To all the folks who write code for Linux: I live in a house by myself. Nobody else ever uses my computer. I really hate it when some program tells me I need an 8-character password. I would be just as happy to bypass the password stuff altogether, but I have a simple password that I want to use on everything. It has 5 characters, and I can remember it. Please keep people like me in mind. Thank you. --doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
