[opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-08-07 04:07]:
 Just checked, on [EMAIL PROTECTED] works out of the box, on [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 -d
 ata is needed.

smartmontools-5.33-18
openSUSE 10.1 x86_64
2 x Seagate SATA2 400GB

08:04 wahoo:~ # smartctl -i /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
Serial number: 3NF1P3D8
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:39 2007 EDT
Device does not support SMART

08:04 wahoo:~ # smartctl -i /dev/sdb
smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
Serial number: 3NF1JBP5
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:41 2007 EDT
Device does not support SMART


OK, looks like my Seagate SATA2 drives do not support SMART  :^(


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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-09-08 at 08:07 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

 Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
 Serial number: 3NF1JBP5
 Device type: disk
 Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:41 2007 EDT
 Device does not support SMART
 
 
 OK, looks like my Seagate SATA2 drives do not support SMART  :^(

That's not possible!

I think it should be a bug somewhere. Perhaps you can check your drive 
documentation to see if they mention smart or not. If they have smart, 
then you can fill the bug on bugzilla...

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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-08-07 08:17]:
 
 The Saturday 2007-09-08 at 08:07 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
 
  Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
  Serial number: 3NF1JBP5
  Device type: disk
  Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:41 2007 EDT
  Device does not support SMART
  
  
  OK, looks like my Seagate SATA2 drives do not support SMART  :^(
 
 That's not possible!
 
 I think it should be a bug somewhere. Perhaps you can check your drive 
 documentation to see if they mention smart or not. If they have smart, 
 then you can fill the bug on bugzilla...

Seagate says the drive *is* smart capable, but that the smart function
may be disabled by the bios.  There is no setting provision for smart
in my award bios, mb=k8n neo4 series socket 939 nForce 4 Ultra
(ms-7125).  bios was up-to-date as of August 1, 2007.

Seagate info from online, bios/mb from provided MSI manual.

will file bug...
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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-08-07 09:17]:
 will file bug...

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=308980

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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-09-08 at 09:15 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

  I think it should be a bug somewhere. Perhaps you can check your drive 
  documentation to see if they mention smart or not. If they have smart, 
  then you can fill the bug on bugzilla...
 
 Seagate says the drive *is* smart capable, but that the smart function
 may be disabled by the bios.  There is no setting provision for smart
 in my award bios, mb=k8n neo4 series socket 939 nForce 4 Ultra
 (ms-7125).  bios was up-to-date as of August 1, 2007.
 
 Seagate info from online, bios/mb from provided MSI manual.
 
 will file bug...

I'm guessing that the bios support of smart, is that the bios will read 
the smart log somehow on boot and warn the user if there is an impending 
failure (ie, smart predicts a failure in 24 hours). I'm not sure that 
disabling smart in the bios will really stop smartctl in linux from 
learning the smart status of the drive.

But this is just a guess.


However, smart collection can be enabled/disabled on the drive itself, 
using smartctl -s.

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   Carlos E. R.
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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Carlos E. R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-08-07 09:28]:
 
 However, smart collection can be enabled/disabled on the drive itself, 
 using smartctl -s.
 

09:49 wahoo:~ # smartctl /dev/sda -a ;smartctl /dev/sda -s on
smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
Serial number: 3NF1P3D8
Device type: disk
Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 09:50:29 2007 EDT
Device does not support SMART
Request Sense failed, [Input/output error]

Error Counter logging not supported

Error Events logging not supported

[GLTSD (Global Logging Target Save Disable) set. Enable Save with '-S on']
Device does not support Self Test logging
smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4 Bruce 
Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

unable to fetch IEC (SMART) mode page [Input/output error]
A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or
more '-T permissive' options.


'-T' arguments make no difference


tks,
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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Saturday 2007-09-08 at 09:52 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

 unable to fetch IEC (SMART) mode page [Input/output error]
 A mandatory SMART command failed: exiting. To continue, add one or
 more '-T permissive' options.

Looks ugly.

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Re: [opensuse] smartmontools and sata drives, was: USB IDE disk caddies

2007-09-08 Thread Ciro Iriarte
2007/9/8, Patrick Shanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 * Ciro Iriarte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [09-08-07 04:07]:
  Just checked, on [EMAIL PROTECTED] works out of the box, on [EMAIL 
  PROTECTED] -d
  ata is needed.

 smartmontools-5.33-18
 openSUSE 10.1 x86_64
 2 x Seagate SATA2 400GB

 08:04 wahoo:~ # smartctl -i /dev/sda
 smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
 Bruce Allen
 Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

 Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
 Serial number: 3NF1P3D8
 Device type: disk
 Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:39 2007 EDT
 Device does not support SMART

 08:04 wahoo:~ # smartctl -i /dev/sdb
 smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
 Bruce Allen
 Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

 Device: ATA  ST3400633AS  Version: 3.AA
 Serial number: 3NF1JBP5
 Device type: disk
 Local Time is: Sat Sep  8 08:04:41 2007 EDT
 Device does not support SMART


 OK, looks like my Seagate SATA2 drives do not support SMART  :^(


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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Asus M2N32-SLI and 2x250GB Seagate SATA2

mainwks:~ # smartctl -d ata -i /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.33 [x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-4
Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Device Model: ST3250820AS
Serial Number:5QE067A9
Firmware Version: 3.AAC
User Capacity:250,059,350,016 bytes
Device is:Not in smartctl database [for details use: -P showall]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:Sat Sep  8 12:57:35 2007 PYT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

mainwks:~ # rpm -q smartmontools kernel-default
smartmontools-5.33-18
kernel-default-2.6.16.27-0.9


Regards,
Ciro
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