Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread Jan Karjalainen

Greg Freemyer wrote:

On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg Freemyer escribió:
>
> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting 
market".


We have different definitions of "one of the best"

From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data.
===
[arizona]$ time du -sh *
120Mconfig-enc-raw
387Mhome-enc-raw
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw

real64m27.529s
user0m0.650s
sys 0m2.540s

===
From my server with significantly larger superset of data:

# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/
120Mconfig-enc-raw/
10G home-enc-raw/
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw/

real1m33.608s
user0m0.568s
sys 0m5.148s
===

Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special
(ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup).

I'm still testing.  (I need to time some actual rsync passes.  I'm
particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)



If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.


I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk 
capacity

.
Greg

Re: Amazon S3
There's also Synchronize 
(http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/applications/synchronize.html), which is 
a part of JetS3t http://jets3t.s3.amazonaws.com/index.html.



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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread David Brodbeck
Greg Freemyer wrote:
> --size-only also seems like a bad idea.  They don't say why they
> recommend it.

Probably speed.  If you use --size-only rsync only has to check the size
of each file; it doesn't have to checksum them to see which ones have
changed.

As you say, probably a bad idea.  It's not hard to think of scenarios
where you could edit a file and end up with the same size.

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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 3/20/07, John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Greg Freemyer escribió:
> > Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
>
> Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
> market".
>
> If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.

They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.

Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of
Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
Usual Disclaimers apply.



I must be blind.

Even their ultra-small 100MB of disk space package is 144 euros/year.

I see the 20GB VPS for 99 euros/month.

No mention of anything bigger, but I suspect they have significantly
raised their prices since you signed up.

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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 3/20/07, Jan Karjalainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

John Andersen wrote:
> On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
>
>> Greg Freemyer escribió:
>>
>>> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
>>>
>> Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
>> market".
>>
>> If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.
>>
>
> They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
> you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.
>
> Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of
> Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
> Usual Disclaimers apply.
>
>
>
I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast!
http://aws.amazon.com/s3

I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy
access to your S3 repository.

/J


I was just looking thru the JungleDisk forum.  It says they support
rsync, but only with the --inplace arg and they are recommending
--size-only.

--inplace would cause a file to be lost if my computer crashed in the
middle of transferring it.  Not exactly what I need in a DR offsite
repository.  (They say rsync normally needs a rename capability and S3
doesn't support it (as of June 06).  --inplace eliminates the
requirement.).

--size-only also seems like a bad idea.  They don't say why they recommend it.

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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread Greg Freemyer

On 3/19/07, Cristian Rodriguez R. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Greg Freemyer escribió:
>
> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".


We have different definitions of "one of the best"


From their server I do a simple du on a couple GB of data.

===
[arizona]$ time du -sh *
120Mconfig-enc-raw
387Mhome-enc-raw
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw

real64m27.529s
user0m0.650s
sys 0m2.540s

===

From my server with significantly larger superset of data:


# time du -sh config-enc-raw/ home-enc-raw/ config-enc-raw/
120Mconfig-enc-raw/
10G home-enc-raw/
1.8Gsrv-enc-raw/

real1m33.608s
user0m0.568s
sys 0m5.148s
===

Thats about 40 times slower than my machine with is nothing special
(ie. 5 year old P4 technology with a 3ware dual-channel raid-1 setup).

I'm still testing.  (I need to time some actual rsync passes.  I'm
particularly curious how it responds in the middle of the night.)



If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.


I have one from slicehost, but they don't even offer 300GB+ of disk capacity
.
Greg
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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-20 Thread Jan Karjalainen

John Andersen wrote:

On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
  

Greg Freemyer escribió:


Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
  

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
market".

If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.



They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.

Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of
Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
Usual Disclaimers apply.


  

I use Amazon Simple Storage Service (Amazon S3), which is cheap and fast!
http://aws.amazon.com/s3

I recommend using JungleDisk (http://www.jungledisk.com/) for easy 
access to your S3 repository.


/J


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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-19 Thread John Andersen
On Monday 19 March 2007, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Greg Freemyer escribió:
> > Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?
>
> Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting
> market".
>
> If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.

They are far from the best and far from the cheapest, and god help
you if you need to talk to a sentient being for tech support.

Try Your--Site.com - $60/Year, live bodies, choice of
Windows or Linux hosting. Responsive.
Usual Disclaimers apply.


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Re: [opensuse] Dreamhost ?

2007-03-19 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Greg Freemyer escribió:
> 
> Has anyone tried anything like this with dreamhost?

Yes and they are probably one the best in the "mass virtual hosting market".

If you have different needs, your next step is probably a VPS.




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