Re: OpenSuse ignoring most problem reports (was: [opensuse] I am so mad I can't see straight!!!!!
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 23:18 +0100, Philippe Landau wrote: SNIP It is obvious that OpenSuse ignores the vast majority of problem reports. There are great programmers working for them that have to concentrate on their tasks given by the hierarchy. The moment you publicly question the Novell hierarchy you are told to shut up. Oh come on... Conspiracy theorists running amuck here. I give the Novell developers full credit for their work. They work hard, and the reason why not every detail that you expect to be dealt with is not met is because Novell also has a limited amount of resources. And in the case of openSuse, it is a mix of Novell developers and outside contributing developers (as in open source), so if you have such disdain for the developers, why not extend it to all of the outside developers who contribute as well? That entire logic is flawed. Novell does not have the luxury of a 50,000-employee company like Microsoft. Balancing priorities is ALWAYS a difficult task and one that inevitably someone loses. Guess in this case, that was you. Your statement is an insult to developers at Novell. And for good reasons, Novell is evidently even more in bed with Microsoft then other financiers of Linux distributions. Ugh, I'm so tired of hearing this one. It's been so refuted time and time again, I'm not even going to bother with responding to this one. if and when the financiers decide it is in their own interest. Unless people start speaking up together. But most prefer swallowing trinkets and compete in their subservience. They actually do welcome your comments. Heck, look at where you are posting this very email??? There are Novellians looking in on this list and taking note of what people say. But if you assume everything happens overnight, think again. To use Microsoft as an example, hmmm... they have 50,000 employees and yet take forever in between OS version releases (years not months) 10.3 was released a couple months ago. 11.0 is about to be released around this springtime. Thanks for your efforts trying to make a difference, Richard, however please don't let curtains and staged competition fool you. We don't try to make a difference. We ARE making a difference, by participating, by testing out, by reporting, by getting involved in opensuse teams, etc. I participate with the opensuse gnome team. What are you doing? Kind regards Philippe -- ---Bryen--- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenSuse ignoring most problem reports (was: [opensuse] I am so mad I can't see straight!!!!!
On 12/5/07, Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Creighton wrote: For many weeks, going on months, I studiously ignored the red triangle of the updater. I weakened this one time.I will NEVER trust the updater again. All updates had been done via the YAST online update where I had some control over what and when. Kinda defeats the purpose of the automatic updater, doesn't it? I have filed bugreports until I am tired of being ignored. It is obvious that OpenSuse ignores the vast majority of problem Oh yes, pretty obvious. I have never seen a bug being closed. Tell you what, I know the novell workers passes all day looking at the screen of their computers and saying ha! Ignored one more!, and there is a competition who ignores more problems per day... There are lots of distros out there. Pick your poison, if you think its too bad in here... reports. There are great programmers working for them that have to concentrate on their tasks given by the hierarchy. They do? In a company? You mean, they arte working in a company and they have to follow orders by their bosses who are paying them? Cmon, are you kidding? How can they let people do that? Have orders in a company, hah, what a joke. What will be next? They will want us to take bath everyday? To work? I thought we were in hippie-land, doing whatever anyone wants, in anarchism. The moment you publicly question the Novell hierarchy you are told to shut up. Ah, yes, its like the mafia... I know three guys who questioned that. They were sent drowned in a river with rocks tied to their legs... its terrible, the horror And for good reasons, Novell is evidently even more in bed with Microsoft then other financiers of Linux distributions. Oh mine, the trollage season started again? Amazing... Philippe, why dont you go troll elsewhere? Because you are, evidently, a fucking troll. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OpenSuse ignoring most problem reports (was: [opensuse] I am so mad I can't see straight!!!!!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Philippe Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] [12-05-07 17:18]: It is obvious that OpenSuse ignores the vast majority of problem reports. There are great programmers working for them that have to concentrate on their tasks given by the hierarchy. The moment you publicly question the Novell hierarchy you are told to shut up. And for good reasons, Novell is evidently even more in bed with Microsoft then other financiers of Linux distributions. Your Magnificent Ignorance, PLEASE find another distro, and LEAVE! - -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USAHOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535@ http://counter.li.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHVy18ClSjbQz1U5oRArNhAKCejsiTC0RmFx+m0FX4L7nc+E93mQCeKv3l rH6dD7Mdzxt22JxlAqkrrn0= =vuUN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]