[opensuse-factory] Why don't work KsCD anymore ?

2006-03-21 Thread Günther J. Niederwimmer
Hello,

I have the  problem that KsCD don't work anymore, beginning with SL10 or 
change the motherboards to  ICH5-8 KsCD is not working ?

I tested the cable and all i found by Google, all Player are working, but KsCD 
not ?

The Problem are my friends ;), all like KsCD, and are not willing to change !
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Re: [opensuse-factory] zen-updater

2006-03-21 Thread houghi
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 10:29:19PM -0400, Cristian Rodriguez wrote:
> Although ,I Agree with your rant, and found this sudden move to MONO
> (.NET) or whatever very bad,disappointing, and unnecessary (specially in
> the middle of the distro development, and having previous, well
> tested,mature software,that works.) I think you are missing the real
> point, it doesn't matter if the file extension is pl or exe or whatever,
> the most important thing is **how it works**.

That is naturaly the first important thing. The second is some kind of
logic and calling things *.exe points to a Microsoft enviroment, no matter
how wrong that is.

Stupid people, like me, will think that it is something wrong, delete it
and have problems. An easy way to prevent this stupidity is to remove the
*.exe part.

This stupidity can be easily prevented by changing the name. However this
asks for a change of mindset of people who think that a user should not
mess with his own system and are pretty stuborn in that point of view.

No matter how technically it is all correct, it is still wrong. 

houghi
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[opensuse-factory] DVD drive fails to mount disc

2006-03-21 Thread Juan Erbes
DVD drive fails to mount disc with automount/kde.
KDE detects when I insert a dvd disc, but in console I have running
udevmonitor --env, and it do'nt detect nothing.
If I accept the message from kde to open in new window, I got "An unknown
error ocurred".
I have installed the update from the last saturday, (I mean beta 8).

Thanks


Re: [opensuse-factory] zen-updater

2006-03-21 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Hans-Peter Jansen escribió:
> Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 18:05 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
>> Can anybody explain me in 2-3 sentences, howto setup the new
>> replacement for Suse watcher? Or point me to the right documentation?
> 
> While at it, could some kind soul explain me, what the mono folks from 
> ximian consume during work while producing all those *.exe and *.dll 
> files?
> 
> Is that just a (plain stupid IMHO) convention, or does producing c# 
> programs with mono mean, we already infected by the win* bork virus.
> 
> Pete
> 
> .exe processes appearing in ps output will surely scare some people to 
> death (or to another distro).. 
> 

Although ,I Agree with your rant, and found this sudden move to MONO
(.NET) or whatever very bad,disappointing, and unnecessary (specially in
the middle of the distro development, and having previous, well
tested,mature software,that works.) I think you are missing the real
point, it doesn't matter if the file extension is pl or exe or whatever,
the most important thing is **how it works**.





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Re: [opensuse-factory] Conflicts only resolvable one by one?

2006-03-21 Thread Azerion
> I chose to install xmms with yast sw (beta8) - apparently xmms depends on
> xmms-lib which is also installed. This is all very nice - except in earlier
> versions of SL you would be informed of dependencies before they're
> installed - enabling you to change your mind - or at least know what's
> going on before it's too late.
>
> Is this behaviour a bug or is it intended? - that dependencies are
> installed automatically without "consulting" the user beforehand.
>
> I prefer the old way. Though I'm aware that some users panic when yast asks
> them any questions whatsoever.
>
> Of course in the xmms case it's not important - but if I (or some other
> user) were to by accident install some GNOME-package and thus installaing
> 100s of megs of dependencies without warning it would be a problem.
>
> cb400f
>

+1, it's really scary if Gnome comes around for some packages cause ir takes 
(most of the time) hunderd(s) mb of space so I really want to change my mind 
then :P

Azerion

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[opensuse-factory] Vera Sans TTF Font Aliasing on Fontconfig

2006-03-21 Thread Felix Miata
I just installed from factory FTP for the first time. I see Deja Vu
fonts installed, but not Bitstream Vera. I think if that's to be the
default installation configuration then /etc/fonts/fonts.conf should be
setting an alias for the various Bitstream Vera Fonts to their DejaVu
counterparts so that the much smaller default (Nimbus Sans L) sans-serif
doesn't get substituted on web pages using Vera Sans as a Verdana fallback.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Conflicts only resolvable one by one?

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Schlander
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 09:48, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
> Andreas Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I just tried to install as many packages as possible and found something
> > very annoying: Conflicts are only shown one at a time. You can not solve
> > several conflicts at a time like before.
> >
> > Should I file a bug or is this intended behaviour?
>
> Please file a bug,
>
> Andreas

I have a similar question. 

I chose to install xmms with yast sw (beta8) - apparently xmms depends on 
xmms-lib which is also installed. This is all very nice - except in earlier 
versions of SL you would be informed of dependencies before they're installed 
- enabling you to change your mind - or at least know what's going on before 
it's too late. 

Is this behaviour a bug or is it intended? - that dependencies are installed 
automatically without "consulting" the user beforehand. 

I prefer the old way. Though I'm aware that some users panic when yast asks 
them any questions whatsoever.

Of course in the xmms case it's not important - but if I (or some other user) 
were to by accident install some GNOME-package and thus installaing 100s of 
megs of dependencies without warning it would be a problem.

cb400f

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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread houghi
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:52:46PM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> Actually if I need the hardware, I prefer having a closed source driver very 
> much 
> over having no driver at all. For example: My Polaroid SprintScan 120 
> (discontinued product) is not supported by Linux, the vendor did not give 
> away any 
> programming information (not made by Polaroid), and there is a danger that 
> "wild 
> programming" will damage the hardware. So I have to use MS-Windows to use the 
> scanner.

I am not saying that there should be no closed source programs. I am
saying that if the producer decides to have a closed source program to
protect his rights, he should also be concerned about the rights of
others.

 
> The real problem is the Chinese marketing: The build hardware for half of the 
> costs and distribute the software they haven't developed for free. So the 
> original 
> vendor of hard- and software will not earn money.

Having closed source will hardly change that. And again, if the producer
decides to have a closed source driver. please go ahead, but play by the
rules and respect others rights as you wish them to respect yours.

houghi
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[opensuse-factory] Beware of NetworkManager

2006-03-21 Thread Frank-Michael Fischer
There are a couple of non-documented shortcomings in this package I
would like you all inform about:

1. NetworkManager at its present state cannot deal with WLAN card using
the prism54 chip. The corresponding bug 148210 has been marked FIXED
without submitting or communicating a fix. Workaround: Either do not use
NetworkManager (the traditional method supports prism54 with no
problems) or install ndiswrapper from the factory tree (not included in
the beta isos!) and use the corresponding MS driver with ndiswrapper.
Then NetworkManager can deal with it. Sort of a Trojan horse to get MS
drivers into Linux.

2. NetworkManager relies on DCHP in a very rigid manner: DHCP must
provide not only the IP address but also the name server address. As
many DHCP servers sit in DSL routers and similar devices they are often
limited in functionality. E.g. they cannot provided a fixed MAC-IP
address relation. Naturally these routers work as the name servers. So
in case you want to put your DHCP server on to another node this server
needs to address the issue of having a different name server (the one in
the router). All this because there is currently no way to specify a
fixed name server address NetworkManager will use (bug 159524).

FMF



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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 21 Mar 2006 at 16:18, houghi wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:00:17PM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> > I disagree: developing a driver for Linux is a significant amount of work, 
> > and you 
> > get something (the driver). You don't get the sources, but you didn't pay 
> > for. I'm 
> > sure you could get the sources if you are paying for them.
> 
> By buying the hardware, you inderectly pay for the software. If the
> hardwareseller decides to not use OSS, then he should also play buy the
> rules and either open the source or place them in such a way that it does
> not infringe the rights of others.

Actually if I need the hardware, I prefer having a closed source driver very 
much 
over having no driver at all. For example: My Polaroid SprintScan 120 
(discontinued product) is not supported by Linux, the vendor did not give away 
any 
programming information (not made by Polaroid), and there is a danger that 
"wild 
programming" will damage the hardware. So I have to use MS-Windows to use the 
scanner.

The price you are paying for the hardware is hardly worth a few weeks work of 
some 
engineer.

The real problem is the Chinese marketing: The build hardware for half of the 
costs and distribute the software they haven't developed for free. So the 
original 
vendor of hard- and software will not earn money.

Regards,
Ulrich


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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread houghi
On Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 04:00:17PM +0100, Ulrich Windl wrote:
> I disagree: developing a driver for Linux is a significant amount of work, 
> and you 
> get something (the driver). You don't get the sources, but you didn't pay 
> for. I'm 
> sure you could get the sources if you are paying for them.

By buying the hardware, you inderectly pay for the software. If the
hardwareseller decides to not use OSS, then he should also play buy the
rules and either open the source or place them in such a way that it does
not infringe the rights of others.

houghi
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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 21 Mar 2006 at 15:23, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:

> Johannes Kastl schrieb:
> > On 02/14/2006 02:26 PM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> > 
> > I must say, this decision is a punch in the face for companies, that
> > have linux drivers. Those that dont care about linux wont have a
> > problem with this decision.
> 
> This decision is no problem for companies supporting linux (they have
> free drivers). It is, however, indeed a big problem for companies
> trying to profit from linux and giving nothing back in return.

I disagree: developing a driver for Linux is a significant amount of work, and 
you 
get something (the driver). You don't get the sources, but you didn't pay for. 
I'm 
sure you could get the sources if you are paying for them.

> 
> Using closed source linux drivers or windows drivers with ndiswrapper
> is similar. In both cases, the kernel becomes tainted and the result
> is not debuggable. However, companies creating closed source linux
> drivers claim to support linux. I fail to understand how they can make
> that claim.
> 
> I'm happy that Windows Vista will force most drivers into userspace,
> thereby invalidating all claims that it can't be done.

Is it really user space, or is it a different ring of protection?

[...]

Regards,
Ulrich


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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Johannes Kastl schrieb:
> On 02/14/2006 02:26 PM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:
> 
> I must say, this decision is a punch in the face for companies, that
> have linux drivers. Those that dont care about linux wont have a
> problem with this decision.

This decision is no problem for companies supporting linux (they have
free drivers). It is, however, indeed a big problem for companies
trying to profit from linux and giving nothing back in return.

Using closed source linux drivers or windows drivers with ndiswrapper
is similar. In both cases, the kernel becomes tainted and the result
is not debuggable. However, companies creating closed source linux
drivers claim to support linux. I fail to understand how they can make
that claim.

I'm happy that Windows Vista will force most drivers into userspace,
thereby invalidating all claims that it can't be done.


SOLUTION for fax servers with passive ISDN cards:
=
Regarding the original topic, there are a few possible solutions at
hand for passive ISDN cards. An opensource driver without DSP algorithms
should be simple to implement (no patented/secret code needed) and
for faxing there are possible solutions mentioned in
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-german/2006/01/msg00080.html
That leaves high-speed fax (supported by 2-3% of faxes on the market)
and modem emulation to be solved. For fax servers this should be
enough.


Regards,
Carl-Daniel

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Re: [opensuse-factory] AVM/SUSE/Novell long-term relationship endangered

2006-03-21 Thread Johannes Kastl
On 02/14/2006 02:26 PM Eberhard Moenkeberg wrote:

> As i understand it, Novell is offering active help to you if you are ready 
> to go this way.

That is also what I heard.

> Trying this, the "consequences" for you (AVM) would be much better.

I must say, this decision is a punch in the face for companies, that
have linux drivers. Those that dont care about linux wont have a
problem with this decision.

So I find it a hard decision, but I guess it had to be made. Best all
of us can do is try to support those companies. And hope they will
continue to support linux.

OJ
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Re: [opensuse-factory] zen-updater

2006-03-21 Thread Hans-Peter Jansen
Am Dienstag, 21. März 2006 07:57 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 11:26:46PM +0100, Hans-Peter Jansen wrote:
> > Am Freitag, 17. März 2006 18:05 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
> > > Can anybody explain me in 2-3 sentences, howto setup the new
> > > replacement for Suse watcher? Or point me to the right
> > > documentation?
>
> See
>
> > While at it, could some kind soul explain me, what the mono folks
> > from ximian consume during work while producing all those *.exe and
> > *.dll files?
> >
> > Is that just a (plain stupid IMHO) convention, or does producing c#
> > programs with mono mean, we already infected by the win* bork
> > virus.
>
> Lean back and just think that it would be exactly like
>   "/usr/sbin/foo.pl"
> in the process list.

Sure:

# file /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl: perl script text

But:

# file /usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe
/usr/lib/zmd/zmd.exe: PE executable for MS Windows (console) Intel 80386 
32-bit

# file /usr/lib/zmd/Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.dll 
/usr/lib/zmd/Novell.Zenworks.Zmd.dll: PE executable for MS Windows (DLL) 
(console) Intel 80386 32-bit

Note the difference..

Just filed #159708. All sane people, please vote for this bug:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159708

> .exe is just a file extension.
>
> The programs are written with UNIX in mind, especially zmd and
> zen-updater

What hinders them to not cope with unix conventions then? Do they 
deliberately want to detest linux community people? 

Pete

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[opensuse-factory] (Fwd) Re: Please attach a sample file to the bug 685335

2006-03-21 Thread Ulrich Windl
FYI: (GhostScript Bug #685335)
--- Forwarded message follows ---
Dear Ulrich Windl,

Thank you for the sample file.

I confirm that released versions of Ghostscript generate PDF files
that convert to text with wrong encoding. This problem is fixed in the
current development version since rev. 6178. The development version of
Ghostscript can be obtained from the Subversion repository as
svn checkout http://svn.ghostscript.com:8080/ghostscript/trunk/gs/

Regards,
Alex Cherepanov
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Conflicts only resolvable one by one?

2006-03-21 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

> Andreas Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just tried to install as many packages as possible and found something 
> > very annoying: Conflicts are only shown one at a time. You can not solve 
> > several conflicts at a time like before. 
> >
> > Should I file a bug or is this intended behaviour?
> 
> Please file a bug,

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=159673

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Conflicts only resolvable one by one?

2006-03-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Vetter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I just tried to install as many packages as possible and found something 
> very annoying: Conflicts are only shown one at a time. You can not solve 
> several conflicts at a time like before. 
>
> Should I file a bug or is this intended behaviour?

Please file a bug,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] xen

2006-03-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Andreas Jaeger wrote:
>> We'll sync out factory again on monday - but see my other mail, you
>> can get it today ;-)
>>
> It's getting late, time for dinner, and still nothing on stage to
> download. When will it be available? I'm waiting for some fixes, which
> were late for beta8... Bye,

Now ;-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] hidden comments in Bugzilla and no fix for testing and no timing for the fix?

2006-03-21 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Peter Czanik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Christoph Thiel írta:
>> As the sources / rpms are synced out daily, it shouldn't be to difficult 
>> for you to just have a look those + the rpm changelog.
>>   
> Not since lost Thursday, as far as I can see. I just checked stage, but
> still nothing is uploaded there. Factory is frozen :-( Bye,

Unfrozen since 12 hours,

Andreas
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