Re: [opensuse-factory] Learning Perl (Was: Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question)

2006-05-08 Thread Ulrich Windl
On 5 May 2006 at 16:54, houghi wrote:

 However, I am not a programmer, nor will I ever be one. If at most I am a
 mediocre scriptwriter. Again, perl will be a great langage, it is just not
 for me.

Maybe consider that quote of Mr. Wittgenstein (German): The limits of my 
language 
are the limits of my world ;-)

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[opensuse-factory] Eiffel, once again?

2006-05-08 Thread Ulrich Windl
Hi,
would an announcement like the following qualify for adding the software?:

--quote--
- Eiffel Software to Offer Dual Licensing for EiffelStudio

Eiffel Software is pleased to announce its new Dual Licensing Model for
EiffelStudio.
This new model described at http://www.eiffel.com/licensing/licensing.html
is based the principle of Fair Exchange and allows customers to develop
applications either for commercial use or as Open Source products. The release
of EiffelStudio as Open Source environment which took place on April 5 (see
column below) has already generated tremendous excitement in the developers
community. The Open Source version of EiffelStudio under the GNU General Public
License (GPL) is available at: http://eiffelsoftware.origo.ethz.ch.
--end quote---

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[opensuse-factory] call for a full time en sysop

2006-05-08 Thread jdd
It may be simpler for me to write this because I can't be a
candidate :-)

I think we should have a full time english-wiki sysop.

Full time don't mean he will spend all his time on the wiki,
but that the wiki will be his first concern. and sysop mean
he will have to make strategic changes, organisation ones,
not than he should have to write the wiki himself, of course.

http://en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Welcome_to_openSUSE.orgaction=history

shows that several people share the front page update. this
is probably not the better way for consistency and we know
they have also very sharp work do do on the distribution itself.

I don't care if the sysop is Novell or voluntary, but I
would like to know his name.

I think also than it's his responsability, aftyer all kinds
of discussions, to make the necessary changes. specially on
the blocked pages, he is the only who can do it.

we are simply not enough, here, to speak of democracy or
votes. We don't represent anybody than ourselves.

of course, Novell can (must) keep the css control.

the main point is than we need a referee :-). On my concern,
it's better to have a consistent layout, even if I don't
like it (and why should I don't like it :-),  than as many
layouts as pages...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] call for a full time en sysop

2006-05-08 Thread jdd
jdd wrote:

sorry, I sent this to the wrong list :-(
jdd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-08 Thread Steffen Winterfeldt
On Fri, 5 May 2006, houghi wrote:

 On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 02:39:13PM +0200, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
  On Fri, 5 May 2006, houghi wrote:
  
   On Fri, May 05, 2006 at 02:22:26PM +0200, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
   
   snip
You need to match the --pad given to tagmedia with what you give to 
mkisofs
and things should be fine. If not, checkmedia will return an md5sum 
error.
   
   As far as I see I don't give mkisofs anything:
  
  You better should.
 
 Ah. From the manpage:
 To  avoid  problems  with  I/O  error  on  the  last file on the
 filesystem, the -pad option has been made the default.
 
 Just to be sure, I added -pad. I also tried with -no-pad and get the same 
 result. So now I do not know which one is the correct one to use. :-(
 
 I would like to add that so that those peopel who have the wrong setting
 still are able to get it right.
 
 So wich should I use? -pad or -no-pad. For me there is no difference, but
 that might not be true for everybody.

use -pad.

And what exactly is 'the same result'?


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Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:32:22AM +0200, Steffen Winterfeldt wrote:
  So wich should I use? -pad or -no-pad. For me there is no difference, but
  that might not be true for everybody.
 
 use -pad.

Ok, will do. Thanks.
 
 And what exactly is 'the same result'?

That I was able to get a positive checksumresult regardless of what I
used.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Eiffel, once again?

2006-05-08 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Ulrich Windl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,
 would an announcement like the following qualify for adding the software?:

Please add it to the wishlist - and I wouldn't mind if somebody builds
a package of it using the build service...

 --quote--
 - Eiffel Software to Offer Dual Licensing for EiffelStudio

 Eiffel Software is pleased to announce its new Dual Licensing Model for
 EiffelStudio.
 This new model described at http://www.eiffel.com/licensing/licensing.html
 is based the principle of Fair Exchange and allows customers to develop
 applications either for commercial use or as Open Source products. The release
 of EiffelStudio as Open Source environment which took place on April 5 (see
 column below) has already generated tremendous excitement in the developers
 community. The Open Source version of EiffelStudio under the GNU General 
 Public
 License (GPL) is available at: http://eiffelsoftware.origo.ethz.ch.
 --end quote---

 Regards,
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[opensuse-factory] Strange behaviour of installation source

2006-05-08 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
I just added a normal, selfmade YaST installtion source to 10.1, using the 
Add-on-Produkt module. There was one selection on the media. If I choose 
selections in YaST, the selection is not displayed

does YaST only display signed selections?

If I switch the view to installation sources, I can choose packages for 
installtion and this also seems to work. But I can not install newer versions 
of packages, which are already installed (tried with kaffeine 0.8.1)

any idea, what's the reason for this? 
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[opensuse-factory] FreeNX seems to have problems with some passwords

2006-05-08 Thread Heiko Helmle

Hello,

Did anyone try the FreeNX Server that's on OpenSuSE RC3?

When you try to use a password that starts with a blank character, login 
with that user fails. If you use any other type of password it seems to 
work, just blank at the beginning is not working.


If anybody can reproduce this, then i'll assume this is a bug in 
nxserver and not in my nxclient installation.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Strange behaviour of installation source

2006-05-08 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 8. Mai 2006 12:18 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
 I just added a normal, selfmade YaST installtion source to 10.1, using the
 Add-on-Produkt module. There was one selection on the media. If I choose
 selections in YaST, the selection is not displayed

 does YaST only display signed selections?
This question remains

 If I switch the view to installation sources, I can choose packages for
 installtion and this also seems to work. But I can not install newer
 versions of packages, which are already installed (tried with kaffeine
 0.8.1)
OK. This seems to be a problem with i586, i686. If I check the right package 
on the 'Versions' tab, it works as aspected.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
I have identified and fixed the problem.

The key needs to be added to the initial ramdisk
of the CDD/DVD, so some extra magic is necessary.

I have attached the patch to make it work,
apply with
patch makeSUSEdvd  msd.pat

Ciao, Marcus
--- /suse/meissner/makeSUSEdvd  2006-05-08 12:13:14.0 +0200
+++ /root/makeSUSEdvd   2006-05-08 15:52:44.0 +0200
@@ -465,9 +467,34 @@
cd $CD_DIR
 }
 
+PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD() 
+{
+   for initrd in $CD_DIR/boot/*/loader/initrd
+   do
+   echo Initrd is $initrd
+   if [ ! -f $initrd ]; 
+   then
+   echo No initrd found?
+   MAKE_CLEAN
+   exit 1
+   fi
+   gunzip  $initrd  $initrd.uncomp
+   mkdir tmpinitrd
+   pushd tmpinitrd
+   cpio -idm $initrd.uncomp
+   gpg --export -u $LOCAL_KEY  $LOCAL_KEY.gpg
+   find|cpio -o -H newc  $initrd.uncomp.new
+   popd
+   gzip --best  $initrd.uncomp.new  $initrd
+   rm -rf tmpinitrd
+   rm $initrd.uncomp $initrd.uncomp.new
+   done
+}
+
 #SIGN_CONTENT : Signing the media for 10.1 on
 SIGN_CONTENT ()
 {
+   PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD
#Remove keys in content
grep -v ^META $CD_DIR/content  $CD_DIR/content.bak
mv $CD_DIR/content.bak $CD_DIR/content

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[opensuse-factory] iSCSI testing

2006-05-08 Thread Anders Norrbring
I can't get iSCSI to work as an initiator.. I run it on a x86_64 
installation of 10.1 GM + factory and I have installed iscsid 0.3 plus 
the yast2 modules.


The last try I made I could at least reach the target, but got this in 
the log..


Has anybody gotten iSCSI to work? If so, how...?



May  8 16:32:33 labbet kernel: scsi0 : iSCSI Initiator over TCP/IP, v.0.3
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 8. Mai 2006 16:31 schrieb Marcus Meissner:
 I have identified and fixed the problem.

 The key needs to be added to the initial ramdisk
 of the CDD/DVD, so some extra magic is necessary.

 I have attached the patch to make it work,
 apply with
   patch makeSUSEdvd  msd.pat

I tried the patched script, but it still says

No catalogue under 'cd:///?devices%3d%2fdev%2fhdc'
ERROR: No proposal

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 04:31:13PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 I have identified and fixed the problem.
 
 The key needs to be added to the initial ramdisk
 of the CDD/DVD, so some extra magic is necessary.
 
 I have attached the patch to make it work,
 apply with
   patch makeSUSEdvd  msd.pat
 
 Ciao, Marcus

Does not work for me. Well, the patching does, but not the result.

snip

 + PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD
   #Remove keys in content
   grep -v ^META $CD_DIR/content  $CD_DIR/content.bak
   mv $CD_DIR/content.bak $CD_DIR/content
 

I have brought PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD down a few lines. PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD
uses the variable $LOCAL_KEY, so it might be better to use it after
$LOCAL_KEY is calculated.

That at least does not give an error. What I do get is:
Initrd is /tmp/CD_DIR/boot/i386/loader/initrd
/tmp/CD_DIR/tmpinitrd /tmp/CD_DIR
cpio: dev/null: Operation not permitted
cpio: dev/ram0: Operation not permitted
cpio: dev/tty1: Operation not permitted
cpio: dev/zero: Operation not permitted
cpio: dev/console: Operation not permitted
cpio: lib/udev/devices/md0: Operation not permitted
cpio: lib/udev/devices/md1: Operation not permitted
snip
cpio: lib/udev/devices/fwmonitor: Operation not permitted
38584 blocks
38582 blocks
/tmp/CD_DIR

This during the runnung of makeSUSEdvd

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcus Meissner


Actually this is the full diff which was working for me:

Note that I just moved the keyid with which to sign to a toplevel define.

Ciao, Marcus

--- /suse/meissner/makeSUSEdvd  2006-05-08 16:29:25.0 +0200
+++ /root/makeSUSEdvd   2006-05-08 15:52:44.0 +0200
@@ -22,12 +22,14 @@
 # below to a partition with enough space
 
 HERE=$PWD
-CD_DIR=/tmp/CD_DIR
-# CD_DIR=$HERE/CD_DIR# Use this if you want to have the 
+#CD_DIR=/tmp/CD_DIR
+CD_DIR=$HERE/CD_DIR  # Use this if you want to have the 
# subdirectories in the same directory as 
# the ISOs
 #DVD_DIR=/tmp/DVD_DIR
-   LOCAL_KEY=$(gpg --fingerprint | grep ^pub | awk '{print $2}' | cut 
-d/ -f2)
+
+LOCAL_KEY=0x08AD8FC5
+
 DVD_DIR=$HERE/DVD_DIR# Use this if you want to have the
# subdirectories in the same directory as
# the ISOs
@@ -500,7 +502,6 @@
mv $CD_DIR/content.bak $CD_DIR/content
 
 #Set the key
-LOCAL_KEY=`gpg --list-secret-keys|grep ^sec|sed -e 's/.*\///;s/ 
.*//g;'|head -n 1`
gpg --export -a $LOCAL_KEY  $CD_DIR/gpg-pubkey-${LOCAL_KEY}.asc

# Sign files in /suse/setup/descr/

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 06:27:16PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
  I have brought PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD down a few lines. PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD
  uses the variable $LOCAL_KEY, so it might be better to use it after
  $LOCAL_KEY is calculated.
 
 Yes, I had a LOCAL_KEY=0x at the beginning of the script.

Here lies already part of the solution. My key would be 08AD8FC5 and not
0x08AD8FC5. So I added the following line right after LOCAL_KEY=`gpg ...
LOCAL_KEY=0x${LOCAL_KEY}

I now get the following error:
Cannot solve dependencies automatically. Manual intevention is required.
* Standard System with GNOME (47.3 MB total)

I am then able to select the software. YEAH! And get into dependecy hell.
BOO!. ¹

 Hmm. This needs root access I am afraid. Is this a problem?
 (The two cpios need it, the rest likely does not.)

It should not be a problem, as it needs root already for the iso mounting.
I will look to move it more to the beginning, so that on slower machines
there is no need to enter the rootpassword a second time due to timeout.

So the problem was that the key needed 0x in front of the key.
http://houghi.org/script/makeSUSEdvd is what I use now. I will do some
more testing and see what happens. It looks promising, however.

¹ Most likely because I only use CD1 and not 1-3.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcus Meissner
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:16:41PM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 06:27:16PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
   I have brought PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD down a few lines. PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD
   uses the variable $LOCAL_KEY, so it might be better to use it after
   $LOCAL_KEY is calculated.
  
  Yes, I had a LOCAL_KEY=0x at the beginning of the script.
 
 Here lies already part of the solution. My key would be 08AD8FC5 and not
 0x08AD8FC5. So I added the following line right after LOCAL_KEY=`gpg ...
 LOCAL_KEY=0x${LOCAL_KEY}
 
 I now get the following error:
 Cannot solve dependencies automatically. Manual intevention is required.
 * Standard System with GNOME (47.3 MB total)
 
 I am then able to select the software. YEAH! And get into dependecy hell.
 BOO!. ¹
 
  Hmm. This needs root access I am afraid. Is this a problem?
  (The two cpios need it, the rest likely does not.)
 
 It should not be a problem, as it needs root already for the iso mounting.
 I will look to move it more to the beginning, so that on slower machines
 there is no need to enter the rootpassword a second time due to timeout.
 
 So the problem was that the key needed 0x in front of the key.
 http://houghi.org/script/makeSUSEdvd is what I use now. I will do some
 more testing and see what happens. It looks promising, however.
 
 ¹ Most likely because I only use CD1 and not 1-3.

I experienced the same dependency, since i also used CD1 only.
But at least the original signing problem is now passed.

Ciao, Marcus

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Am Montag, 8. Mai 2006 19:16 schrieb houghi:
 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 06:27:16PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
   I have brought PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD down a few lines.
   PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD uses the variable $LOCAL_KEY, so it might be better
   to use it after $LOCAL_KEY is calculated.
 
  Yes, I had a LOCAL_KEY=0x at the beginning of the script.

 Here lies already part of the solution. My key would be 08AD8FC5 and not
 0x08AD8FC5. So I added the following line right after LOCAL_KEY=`gpg ...
 LOCAL_KEY=0x${LOCAL_KEY}

 I now get the following error:
 Cannot solve dependencies automatically. Manual intevention is required.
 * Standard System with GNOME (47.3 MB total)
This is only because you did not use all CDs.

Adding the LOCAL_KEY manually works for me. 

Hougi: Perhaps it's best to ask the user for the key, then eventually check, 
if the given key is in gpg --list-secret-keys to avoid typos
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:19:30PM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
 I experienced the same dependency, since i also used CD1 only.
 But at least the original signing problem is now passed.

Yes.

With CD1-3 there is no error anymore. W00t!

Now some more serious testing and some changing in the script. It also
solved the issue of the need of running with sudo for the mounting of the
iso's. That can just stay in. :-)

Thanks a million times for the PUT_KEY_IN_INITRD.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:30:34PM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
 This is only because you did not use all CDs.

I know.
 
 Adding the LOCAL_KEY manually works for me. 

Indeed, as does calculating it correctly.

 Hougi: Perhaps it's best to ask the user for the key, then eventually check, 
 if the given key is in gpg --list-secret-keys to avoid typos

This will most likely cause more problems and confusion then it solves.
People will enter the wrong one or misread or just do not know what to do.

Before this, I never used gpg and I asume many others are the same. Say if
the script asked for the key, I would have no idea what to enter.

I will now look into the possibilaty that you can select a specific key
and some other changes to the script.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:36:58PM +0200, Rainer Hattenhauer wrote:
 Hi Marcus and Houghi,
snip

 Great job, seems that you fixed the problem. 

That was all Marcus. I just kept nagging. :-)

 Do you think that the
 makeSUSEdvd script will now work as well with the goldmaster which will
 be published this week, too, or are there some further surprises to be
 expected with the final(?)

I would asume that it does, but then that I asumed it every time. :-)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Rainer Hattenhauer
Hi,

 I used RC5/Goldmaster to test.

Excellent, that makes me very happy ;-)

Thank you very much,

 Rainer


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[opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2006-05-08 at 19:34 +0200, houghi wrote:

 Now some more serious testing and some changing in the script. It also
 solved the issue of the need of running with sudo for the mounting of the
 iso's. That can just stay in. :-)

Let me sidestep a bit and mention an issue I noticed.

When I first tried makeSUSEdvd I couldn't use it as user because it 
expects sudo to be configured in such a way to require the root password 
to run. This is not typical, and IMO, insecure.

Then I looked at the default '/etc/sudoers' file of 10.1. It says:

# In the default (unconfigured) configuration, sudo asks for the root password.
# This allows use of an ordinary user account for administration of a freshly
# installed system. When configuring sudo, delete the two
# following lines:
Defaults targetpw# ask for the password of the target user i.e. root
ALL ALL=(ALL) ALL # WARNING! Only use this together with 'Defaults targetpw'!


That needed line for 'makeSUSEdvd' is the default during the installation 
and configuration phase of a system; but once in production, those two 
lines are normally removed - meaning that sudoers have to use their own 
passwords and run only specified commands, not any random command they may 
want. The consequence is that on a production machine, 'makeSUSEdvd' can 
not run using sudo.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 10:08:46PM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 That needed line for 'makeSUSEdvd' is the default during the installation 
 and configuration phase of a system; but once in production, those two 
 lines are normally removed - meaning that sudoers have to use their own 
 passwords and run only specified commands, not any random command they may 
 want. The consequence is that on a production machine, 'makeSUSEdvd' can 
 not run using sudo.

Unfortunatly there is no real alternative, other then running it as root.
I like to run things as little as root as possible. On the other hand, you
are the first, and so far only, person who complained about this.

With several thousand downloads, I would expect some people complaining.
So it seems almost nobody changes the default.

Due to the fact that you might need to enter you rootpassword twice, I
might be willing to let it be run as root.

houghi
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:53:41PM +0200, houghi wrote:
 On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 07:30:34PM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
  This is only because you did not use all CDs.
 
 I know.
  
  Adding the LOCAL_KEY manually works for me. 
 
 Indeed, as does calculating it correctly.
 
  Hougi: Perhaps it's best to ask the user for the key, then eventually 
  check, 
  if the given key is in gpg --list-secret-keys to avoid typos
 
 This will most likely cause more problems and confusion then it solves.
 People will enter the wrong one or misread or just do not know what to do.
 
 Before this, I never used gpg and I asume many others are the same. Say if
 the script asked for the key, I would have no idea what to enter.

What about checking, if there is a local secret key, and if not, add the
possibility to create one :-)

Btw. I do not have any problems with running whole script as root. From
the point of userfriendlyness, the first thing the script should do is
ask for the root password, if the user is not logged in as root.


Keep up the good work

Marcel

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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Monday 2006-05-08 at 22:37 +0200, houghi wrote:

 Unfortunatly there is no real alternative, other then running it as root.
 I like to run things as little as root as possible. 

I know, I know you have to do somethings in the script as root. It is not 
possible to enter the mounts in fstab beforehand, because the exact mount 
points and files are not known at that moment

 On the other hand, you
 are the first, and so far only, person who complained about this.

I'm not complaining, I'm just mentioning a problem. 

It maybe because most people do not even know that SuSE configured sudo be 
default in a nonsecure way and didn't even look at it. The default is an 
easy default.


 Due to the fact that you might need to enter you rootpassword twice, I
 might be willing to let it be run as root.

The other possibility would be to think what config line(s) could be set 
up in the sudoers file so that the script could run as user. It might be 
possible. I haven't looked it up because first I would have to study the 
script and find out what exact commands does it need, and because it was 
faster for me to simply su and run it as root.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Mon, May 08, 2006 at 11:09:13PM +0200, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
  Before this, I never used gpg and I asume many others are the same. Say if
  the script asked for the key, I would have no idea what to enter.
 
 What about checking, if there is a local secret key, and if not, add the
 possibility to create one :-)

Yes, that as well.

 Btw. I do not have any problems with running whole script as root. From
 the point of userfriendlyness, the first thing the script should do is
 ask for the root password, if the user is not logged in as root.

The password is already asked. I just wanted to get a working version
online asap. I will see where it goes.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] iSCSI testing

2006-05-08 Thread Cristian Rodriguez
Anders Norrbring escribió:
 I can't get iSCSI to work as an initiator.. I run it on a x86_64
 installation of 10.1 GM + factory and I have installed iscsid 0.3 plus
 the yast2 modules.
 
 The last try I made I could at least reach the target, but got this in
 the log..
 
 Has anybody gotten iSCSI to work? If so, how...?
 
 

open a bug report in bugzilla, this is a kernel bug.




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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 12:24:58AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  On the other hand, you
  are the first, and so far only, person who complained about this.
 
 I'm not complaining, I'm just mentioning a problem. 

I do not see complaining to be something bad.
 
 It maybe because most people do not even know that SuSE configured sudo be 
 default in a nonsecure way and didn't even look at it. The default is an 
 easy default.

I don't know if all people who run the script only run SUSE. I have heard
from people running it on Debian and on Mandrake as well.

  Due to the fact that you might need to enter you rootpassword twice, I
  might be willing to let it be run as root.
 
 The other possibility would be to think what config line(s) could be set 
 up in the sudoers file so that the script could run as user. It might be 
 possible. I haven't looked it up because first I would have to study the 
 script and find out what exact commands does it need, and because it was 
 faster for me to simply su and run it as root.

That would only complcate things. I am not going to write a script that
changes sudoers in any way. You would need to run that as root, making the
fact that you later can run it as user ineffective.

I would like to run things as user on a standard system. There could have
been a way out with the mounting. However now there is something else
added, so perhaps it is now better to run it as root.

That would need some rewriting, because the iso and other files must be
owned by a user, I think.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 02:01:22AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
 No, seriously, my cuestion is simple: what are the exact comands that need 
 to be run as root? I know that mount is one, but more specifically, 
 mount what? (pattern?).  (Maybe not so simple).

grep sudo makeSUSEdvd
mount does the following. It mounts each iso file to a specific directory.
Each iso and each directory will be different from user to user and even
from one time to the other.
Then there is also umount, cpio, echo, rm and yast.
And who knows what the future holds. :-)
 
 Well, I did run the script as root, so it works. Of course, the files end 
 owned by root, and that is a complication - well, I'm the root, so then 
 it's not a big problem :-)

Either that or a `chown`. Not sure wich one I might use.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread Tom Horsley
 It mounts each iso file to a specific directory.

Actually, in theory, the file-roller program can extract files from
an iso image, so if you can figure out the utterly undocumented
command line options for using it in non-gui mode you might be able
to avoid needing to be root (for the mounts, anyway).

Of course, the one time I tired to use it, strace told me it was
hung in a futex system call, so I don't know how much luck you might
having getting it to actually extract the files.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] sudo and makeSUSEdvd [Was: makeSUSEdvd error]

2006-05-08 Thread Carlos E. R.
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The Tuesday 2006-05-09 at 02:52 +0200, houghi wrote:

 On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 02:01:22AM +0200, Carlos E. R. wrote:
  No, seriously, my cuestion is simple: what are the exact comands that need 
  to be run as root? I know that mount is one, but more specifically, 
  mount what? (pattern?).  (Maybe not so simple).
 
 grep sudo makeSUSEdvd
 mount does the following. It mounts each iso file to a specific directory.
 Each iso and each directory will be different from user to user and even
 from one time to the other.

Ouch. Complicated.

 Then there is also umount, cpio, echo, rm and yast.

umount is similar to mount. Unless you can manage it in the same way as 
'mc' does it :-?

cpio as root? Curious! Unless the files belong to him :-?

rm... 

echo as root?

yast - instead a request to the user to install something (I personally 
prefer that).


You have made quite a complex script :-)


 And who knows what the future holds. :-)

True.

  
  Well, I did run the script as root, so it works. Of course, the files end 
  owned by root, and that is a complication - well, I'm the root, so then 
  it's not a big problem :-)
 
 Either that or a `chown`. Not sure wich one I might use.

Dropping privileges is safer.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] tagmedia question

2006-05-08 Thread Eberhard Moenkeberg

Hi,

On Tue, 9 May 2006, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:


Option 1: make the ISO filesystem several blocks too large by adding
zero-filled blocks at the end.


Right. ISO-9660 says two seconds silence at EOM, and that is equivalent 
to a padding of 300 kBytes (75 frames per second of 2048 klbytes each.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread Jan Karjalainen

Where can I find the latest version of makeSUSEdvd?
SourceForge has version 0.29 (2005-11-19)...

/Jan K.



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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: makeSUSEdvd error

2006-05-08 Thread houghi
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 06:23:02AM +0200, Jan Karjalainen wrote:
 Where can I find the latest version of makeSUSEdvd?
 SourceForge has version 0.29 (2005-11-19)...

0.29 is the latest version. On SF I just edit the version number, upload
the new files and delete the old ones.

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