Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-28 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What about a pattern for console users instead? A pattern that includes
 software which is rarely used or unnecessary on desktops, but handy for
 the console.

 Some ideas for this pattern include:

 mc
 findutils-locate

Surely useful on the desktop as well.  Maybe, a subset of the beagle
tools could be part of the console pattern.

 antiword
 vorbis-tools (for ogg123)
 lynx

These days, we prefer w3m...

You forgot to mention emacs-nox ;)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap

2006-08-28 Thread Lenz Grimmer
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Hi,

Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 The upcoming openSUSE 10.2 will basically have similar content like
 its predecessor but comes of course with latest and stable Open Source
 packages available at that time.  We went through Bugzilla, the
 feature list and package wishlist and try to accomodate your wishes
 and suggestions.

You missed some :)

 Note that the list below is neither complete - it's just some of the
 highlights - nor a commitment.
 
 Here an overview about areas we like to enhance, change or add things: 

[SNIP]

 Please give feedback and of course if there's something missing - tell
 us.

Looks promising! The performance improvements in Software Management are
dearly needed, I guess.

Here is my little wishlist:

 - Please consider using LVM by default instead of plain disk partitions
   for new installations (BUG#180762):
   http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg4.html

 - Get Bluetooth Support in KDE fixed (BUG#171120) and improved in
   general, e.g. by supporting Bluetooth Headsets out of the box
   (important for better VoIP support) (BUG#76782)

 - Support first Installation via WLAN: (BUG#149113)

 - Better support the merged framebuffer modes in SaX2 when using
   dual-screen setups (make it easier to configure cloned and large
   desktops and how to switch between these modes at runtime)

 - Something I really liked about Kubuntu: the Installation CD can
   be used as either a live demo CD (without installation) and for
   easy installing on hard disk.

Bye,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Announcing Yast-GTK (forw)

2006-08-28 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Friday 25 August 2006 20:33, Philipp Thomas wrote:
 Forget it. That would require that someone writes a qt# library and
 possibly kde# libraries first in order to then rewrite zmd and other
 zen stuff thats written in mono. That someone would then have to
 constantly maintain all the stuff. IMNSHO that's never going to
 happen.

http://en.opensuse.org/KDE_Updater_Applet

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Adding SBIG CCD camera support to SUSE?

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Jasem Mutlaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 Sorry if this is not the appropiate list to discuss
 this issue.

 Santa Barbara SBIG CCD camera is one of the most
 popular cameras used in astronomy. In order to
 operate, the CCD requires a firmware to be uploaded
 upon detection on the USB port. Otherwise, you can't
 establish any further communications at all.

What is the license of this firmware?  Is it possible to re-distribute
it?  If this is not the case, then we cannot include it,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Adding SBIG CCD camera support to SUSE?

2006-08-28 Thread Dominique Leuenberger
 Matthias Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/06 1:38 PM 
Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Jasem Mutlaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello,

 Sorry if this is not the appropiate list to discuss
 this issue.

 Santa Barbara SBIG CCD camera is one of the most
 popular cameras used in astronomy. In order to
 operate, the CCD requires a firmware to be uploaded
 upon detection on the USB port. Otherwise, you can't
 establish any further communications at all.

 What is the license of this firmware?  Is it possible to
re-distribute
 it?  If this is not the case, then we cannot include it,

Unfortunately the Linux Developer Kit from SBIG does not contain
any hint about the license of the firmware. Though the included
example code is mentioned to be free.
Note, that the camera needs a USB driver, which is provided by SBIG 
as a binary only non-kernel driver also without any license.

I think the best thing in this case is to get in touch with the vendor
and ask for an explicit permission to redistribute the drivers / and
firmware within our openSUSE bundle. 

For sure there IS any sort of license bound to their source code. 
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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Joerg Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 01:36:19PM +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 - Kernel 2.6.18
 
 Desktop  Productivity Software
 - support for rt2500 wlan card, Bug 149141

 Why is this considered Desktop/Prod instead of kernel?

No idea why Michael sorted it this way ;-(

 - adding Broadcom WLAN support

 Please add the devicescape wireless stack into 2.6.18 (you might just be
 one release early ;)
 The reason why is, that some wireless drivers are only maintained (or
 usable) for the devicescape wireless stack, not the regulare one.

Let's see what our mobile devices team think what is needed, I would
prefer to not add a complete new stack :-(

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Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lenz Grimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 The upcoming openSUSE 10.2 will basically have similar content like
 its predecessor but comes of course with latest and stable Open Source
 packages available at that time.  We went through Bugzilla, the
 feature list and package wishlist and try to accomodate your wishes
 and suggestions.

 You missed some :)

See the quoted text just below of this ;-)

 Note that the list below is neither complete - it's just some of the
 highlights - nor a commitment.
 
 Here an overview about areas we like to enhance, change or add things: 

 [SNIP]

 Please give feedback and of course if there's something missing - tell
 us.

 Looks promising! The performance improvements in Software Management are
 dearly needed, I guess.

 Here is my little wishlist:

  - Please consider using LVM by default instead of plain disk partitions
for new installations (BUG#180762):
http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2006-06/msg4.html

For later...

  - Get Bluetooth Support in KDE fixed (BUG#171120) and improved in
general, e.g. by supporting Bluetooth Headsets out of the box
(important for better VoIP support) (BUG#76782)

  - Support first Installation via WLAN: (BUG#149113)

This is getting evaluated.

  - Better support the merged framebuffer modes in SaX2 when using
dual-screen setups (make it easier to configure cloned and large
desktops and how to switch between these modes at runtime)

  - Something I really liked about Kubuntu: the Installation CD can
be used as either a live demo CD (without installation) and for
easy installing on hard disk.

I'll put it on my list to consider for future,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Marc Collin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 that could be nice if somebody could post the pattern for gnome, kde... suse 
 use

 and we could said what package is not really used

Check the files in:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/setup/descr/

Just look at i586.pat, e.g.:

kde-10.2-15.i586.pat  
kde_basis-10.2-15.i586.pat
...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 Andreas Jaeger schrieb:
 I don't like Experienced user - this should be split into several
 patterns...

 What about a pattern for console users instead? A pattern that includes
 software which is rarely used or unnecessary on desktops, but handy for
 the console.

Yes, this is an idea.  I'll work on it the next days and take your
list as first proposal,

Thanks,
Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-28 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Check the files in:
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/setup/descr/
 
 Just look at i586.pat, e.g.:
 
 kde-10.2-15.i586.pat  
 kde_basis-10.2-15.i586.pat

I'd love to have a yast-development pattern :)

Lukas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: new discussion on what kind of patterns we should have

2006-08-28 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 Check the files in:
 http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/setup/descr/
 
 Just look at i586.pat, e.g.:
 
 kde-10.2-15.i586.pat  
 kde_basis-10.2-15.i586.pat

 I'd love to have a yast-development pattern :)

Feel free to create it yourself and add it in a private repository ;-)

Or start proposing it here...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Adding SBIG CCD camera support to SUSE?

2006-08-28 Thread Jasem Mutlaq
--- Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Matthias Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Jasem Mutlaq [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Hello,
 
  Sorry if this is not the appropiate list to
 discuss
  this issue.
 
  Santa Barbara SBIG CCD camera is one of the most
  popular cameras used in astronomy. In order to
  operate, the CCD requires a firmware to be
 uploaded
  upon detection on the USB port. Otherwise, you
 can't
  establish any further communications at all.
 
  What is the license of this firmware?  Is it
 possible to re-distribute
  it?  If this is not the case, then we cannot
 include it,
 
  Unfortunately the Linux Developer Kit from SBIG
 does not contain
  any hint about the license of the firmware. Though
 the included
  example code is mentioned to be free.
  Note, that the camera needs a USB driver, which is
 provided by SBIG 
  as a binary only non-kernel driver also without
 any license.
 
 With such an unclear license situation, we cannot
 take these for
 openSUSE at all.

I'll get back to the vendor and ask them for the
license details regarding the firmware. We'll try to
distribute the binary-only library as a non OSS RPM if
possible as well.

Regards,
Jasem

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[opensuse-factory] Postfix 2.3.2 slightly incorrect

2006-08-28 Thread Anders Norrbring
I just found a little annoying thing in Postfix 2.3.2 from factory.. 
There's a missing definition in the SPEC that disables cyrus sasl 
authentication.


I simply added export CCARGS=$CCARGS -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL to the %build 
block, and everything worked fine.


Oh, 10.2 isn't yet defined in Bugzilla, so I didn't post anything in 
there about this.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] Postfix 2.3.2 slightly incorrect

2006-08-28 Thread Anders Norrbring

Andreas Jaeger skrev:

Anders Norrbring [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I just found a little annoying thing in Postfix 2.3.2 from
factory.. There's a missing definition in the SPEC that disables cyrus
sasl authentication.

I simply added export CCARGS=$CCARGS -DUSE_CYRUS_SASL to the %build
block, and everything worked fine.

Oh, 10.2 isn't yet defined in Bugzilla, so I didn't post anything in
there about this.


openSUSE 10.2 is defined, please report it,

Andreas



Bug 202162 Submitted

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Re: [opensuse-factory] SL-Factory vs. SL-Factory-debug

2006-08-28 Thread Duncan Mac-Vicar Prett
On Saturday 26 August 2006 19:25, Andreas Hanke wrote:
 jdd schrieb:
  but why couldn't you have _one_
  repository and _several_ metadata files?

why not?

it looks like you can have as much primary's, other, filelists etc as you 
want.

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
repomd xmlns=http://linux.duke.edu/metadata/repo;
  data type=patches... /data
  data type=primary../data
  data type=filelists.../data
/repomd

I already sugested this, split primary by letter primary-a,xml primary-b.xml 
and/or by arch. Does not save parse time, but allows smarter chaching on slow 
connections, in bg repos like factory.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Adding SBIG CCD camera support to SUSE?

2006-08-28 Thread Juergen Weigert
On Aug 28, 06 05:58:16 -0700, Jasem Mutlaq wrote:
   Unfortunately the Linux Developer Kit from SBIG
  does not contain
   any hint about the license of the firmware. Though
  the included
   example code is mentioned to be free.
   Note, that the camera needs a USB driver, which is
  provided by SBIG 
   as a binary only non-kernel driver also without
  any license.
  
  With such an unclear license situation, we cannot
  take these for
  openSUSE at all.
 
 I'll get back to the vendor and ask them for the
 license details regarding the firmware. 

Yes please do so.
Please also ask for permission to distribute the firmware
with commercial SUSE Linux Products.

thanks,
   Jw. 

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