Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2
I like it very much to see more packages on the CDs/DVD. (7 CDs vs 5CDs for 10.0) I like this decision. I would really like to see an optional second DVD that has all the rest packages from the FTP tree (otherwise I will download the tree anyways). In real world, it is much faster to spend a day or two to download everything and then just spend few seconds installing rare stuff from the second DVD. (instead of minutes for installing from FTP) Debians practises Dual DVDs since 3.1, I think as their official thingie. Another topic: Linspire have proprietary codecs on their Freespire distro. So, I assume distributing those is legal... Can we include those codecs on our closed-source CD ? Andreas Jaeger: keep up the good work ! -Fenix*NBK*. 22.10.2006. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Repository consistency checklist
Hi Andreas, Andreas Hanke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is a short specification of requirements for a consistent repository. (1) All requirements of binary packages must be provided by a binary package. (2) All build-requirements of source packages must be provided by a binary package. (3) The SOURCERPM tag of every binary package must exactly match an existing source package. (4) All packages which are provided for more than one architecture should be provided with the same version and release numbers on all architectures. (5) No package may obsolete another package that still exists in the distribution. Only packages which are no longer part of the distribution may be obsoleted. (6) No file in the distribution may be provided by more than one package unless all its providers are marked as conflicting. (7) No package may replace something that existed as a directory in at least the direct predecessor of the currently prepared distribution with a file or a symlink or vice versa unless the rpm breakage caused by this is worked around with %pre scriptlets or similar. (8) Packages that provide the same thing can indicate bugs, and fool the package manager into installing the wrong package. There are cases where providing the same thing in multiple packages makes sense (example: alternative backends for multimedia players), but the tree should be investigated for cases where this does not make any sense and can be dangerous (example: private copies of libraries which also exist as a public library). (1), (2), (3) and (4) can probably only be verified shortly before the release. Or, checking this now would not make much sense as long as the tree is still in flux. (5), (6), (7) and (8), however, are things that can be tested at any time. The Beta period which will start very soon is very well suited to squeeze all such issues out. Ideally, as much of this as possible would be automated, and done in a similar way as a typical testsuite for software packages. I think that (5) and (6) can be completely automated, while (7) and (8) can be identified automatically, but would still need to be looked at manually for evaluation. Opinions? We do a lot of this on a daily basis - and during each release - in our build system. Rudi, what do you think? Is there anything that we miss? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpTNJAmCLKgW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2
Alexey Eremenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I like it very much to see more packages on the CDs/DVD. (7 CDs vs 5CDs for 10.0) I like this decision. I would really like to see an optional second DVD that has all the rest packages from the FTP tree (otherwise I will download the tree anyways). In real world, it is much faster to spend a day or two to download everything and then just spend few seconds installing rare stuff from the second DVD. (instead of minutes for installing from FTP) Ah - different use case than most others do ;-) Debians practises Dual DVDs since 3.1, I think as their official thingie. Another topic: Linspire have proprietary codecs on their Freespire distro. So, I assume distributing those is legal... Can we include those codecs on our closed-source CD ? We can only include those that we have contracts for. Andreas Jaeger: keep up the good work ! Thanks - but it's not only me ;-) Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.suse.de/~aj/ SUSE Linux Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 pgpTyLcFIrp6g.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] YAST2 printer module crashing
Trying to re-enable my printer, a HP device usually managed by hplip but currently not working, I noticed that the printer module of YAST2 is crashing while rebuilding the printer database: linux:~ # yast2 printer /sbin/yast2: line 267: 30827 Abgebrochen $ybindir/y2base $module $@ $SELECTED_GUI $Y2_GEOMETRY $Y2QT_ARGS The ncurses interface is crashing at this point, too. (yast2-printer-2.14.3-1) Please file a bug in bugzilla, Today's my day for bug reports ;) - #214265 Alex - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 11:01:22AM +0200, Jozef Peterka wrote: Hi all, maybe I am offtopic, but I think openSuSE could learn something from Ubuntu. I think that openSuSE should have had extra install sources installed by default ( like Packmann, Guru etc.), and Admin should just enable them, read some obligate message about violating law and that these sources are community maintained and blah blah ;) We cannot even offer law violating options. And not even textfiles describing them. I think THIS could attract more users to openSuSE, that the additionall codecs are accessible for them, and that it's their decission to use them or not. Just my opinion. Again I am sorry, If I am off or this idea was discussed before... It has been discussed. 10.2, if you installed the last betas, has the option of adding additional installation sources during install. Repackagers can easily modify this choice I think. Ciao, Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Saturday 2006-10-21 at 15:23 +0200, Andreas Hanke wrote: Carlos E. R. schrieb: 1) ¿Where will go what on 10.1 when to the non-oss tree (non-oss-inst-source)? ¿For instance, where will go the package for Pine? Maybe this has been discussed previously :-? Have a look at /suse/install/10.2/inst-source-extra on any ftp.suse.com mirror. ;-) And in the CDs, which one? Not in the binaries-only one, probably not in the OSS one. Then, nowhere except ftp? Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad idea to publish somewhere the full listing of CDs, DVDs, FTP, etc O:-) (Yes, pine is there, because it is distributed with source code, but not under a real OSS license.) I know, as in 10.1. No problem with that :-) But I hope the tree names, contents of each thing, etc, would be more stable, I have to re-learn on every release :-P 2) ¿Is it possible, at install time from DVD, to add an FTP source for whatever is not in the DVD? ¿Or a local directory? This is already possible via the Add-On Product dialog displayed at the very beginning of the system installation, before the package installation starts (hopefully working without aborting the entire installation in 10.2). Magnific! I hadn't noticed previously that possibility. It will come very handy, if it works :-) - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFO4cutTMYHG2NR9URAnQXAJ93sXkyb+yDqdmwgbzE2NXjnu9HKACgl2kP HYRCWT6ZCoHBmzf9+10/lfI= =YB7V -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[opensuse-factory] Intel Pro BG 2200 wireless configuration in 10.1.1 alpha1
Hi,I am running SUSE Linux 10.1.1 (i586) Alpha2, i compiled my own kernel ,uname -aLinux 3(NXDOMAIN) 2.6.18-default #1 Sun Oct 8 00:19:32 EDT 2006 i686 i686 i386 GNU/LinuxI am trying to get my wireless card to work in Suse, which is an Intel 2200BG lspci | grep 220001:05.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (rev 05)I had to download the firmware from http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/firmware.php?fid=7 and copied it to /lib/firmware and loaded the module modprobe ipw2200, the module loaded without any errors , and then I ran iwconfig likeiwconfig eth1 essid Network_620 key DB19ABDEFE33 when i ran iwconfig eth1Warning: Driver for device eth1 has been compiled with version 20of Wireless Extension, while this program supports up to version 19.Some things may be broken... eth1 unassociated ESSID:Network_620 Mode:Managed Channel=0 Access Point: Not-Associated Bit Rate:0 kb/s Tx-Power=20 dBm Sensitivity=8/0 Retry limit:7 RTS thr:off Fragment thr:off Encryption key:DB19-225F- Security mode:open Power Management:off Link Quality:0 Signal level:0 Noise level:0 Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx invalid frag:0 Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0 Missed beacon:0when i run dhclient eth1 , my wireless card is not able to get a DHCP address from my ISP is something wrong ??How do i configure the wireless card for this new kernel with the iwconfig which comes with this suse Version?? ThanksDigz
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2 - additional sources
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Ubuntu. I think that openSuSE should have had extra install sources installed by default ( like Packmann, Guru etc.), and Admin should just enable them, read some obligate message about violating law and that these sources are community maintained and blah blah ;) We cannot even offer law violating options. And not even textfiles describing them. Understood. But if Ubuntu is doing it, how do they get away with it? That's a good question. Maybe they won't. Is it because it isn't an American company (if indeed they aren't)? Many years ago one of the great advantages of SuSE was that it wasn't American, and I felt sorry for the Canadians because they had to eat the American poo. Note that Germany isn't any better in this case, see the Heise trial wrt linking to patent infringing websites. - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFO90er3NMWliFcXcRAsvgAJsHnio/2Trj0Em/3mZyZILnqahAKgCgmtRw QKEfmk7E4sRZ24EAgZc3oLM= =olk0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Media for openSUSE 10.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Friday 2006-10-20 at 13:53 +0200, Andreas Jaeger wrote: [adding the ftp tree as add-on media during install] If so, excellent: this would provide the best of both worlds, in that if the DVD contains the latest version of a package, that local version will be installed (faster and less bandwidth), and if there's an update available on the FTP site, then you get that immediately, without requiring an immediate update cycle. I agree - but it needs some serious testing, The feature or use of that I'm most interested in, is during update. Example: updating from 10.1 to 10.2. There are a bunch of packages that are not included in the 10.1 dvd and were installed from the ftp tree during normal system usage. If during the system upgrade only the VDs/DVD is available, those packages that are not in the new 10.2 DVD will be removed from the system, and the user will have to reinstall them later when he discovers that they are missing - this is what happened to me while going from 9.3 to 10.1 - From what you have already said, I gather it should work. I'm interested in that, but I'm reluctant to test this with the 10.2 beta on my working 10.1 install. In order to test this I'd probably have to install 10.1 in a new partition, add some packages from the ftp, then upgrade to one of the 10.2 betas. A day or two work, plus the time to download and burn all the CDs plus the 10.1 remastered DVD. A week at least. Ough. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFPAZytTMYHG2NR9URAnXFAJ0Z0tOQeAFRz7nCZ7deGPQdZQS5XgCfb8bR HFaXu2mzwJ/iWm6SJP9Zef4= =PEgJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
