Re: [opensuse-factory] [suggestion] YaST-update should NOT refresh all installation-sources when called by opensuse-updater

2007-04-23 Thread Gaël Lams

Well, Herr Kuhlmann, have you ever considered that the average dialup user
wouldn't be stupid enough to try applying remote updates over his link?
Unless he was incredibly desperate not to have his Apache server hacked XD

Almost ALL computers these days have a broadband connection of some form.


Really? In which world are you living?


Yes, I'm not proud that I used a 33.6k modem up until January 19 2006, but
one of the first things i did on my broadband link was download a new
distro (i'd been using Fedora Core 4, and as you can imagine it
traumatised me for life.) - There's just NO excuse to use a dial-in
narrowband data link for anything more than ssh these days. Cheap and
plentiful data pipes are available in every developed country of the world


Welcome to the real world, where not all users are from the so-called
developed countries and where not all internet access are broadband.

Regards,

Gaël


Re: [opensuse-factory] [suggestion] YaST-update should NOT refresh all installation-sources when called by opensuse-updater

2007-04-23 Thread Klaus Kaempf
* Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Apr 22. 2007 16:32]:
 
 What about using zsync? I never used it myself, but what I read on 
 http://zsync.moria.org.uk/ looks very promising :-)

We are looking into zsync for openSuSE 10.3

Klaus
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[opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread CyberOrg

Hi,

Is anyone working on getting openSUSE native packages for LTSP 5 ?

If so I would like to help, if not I would like to start working on it
and would need all the help I can get, so if anyone is interested
please get in touch with me.

Cheers

-J
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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread David Mayr
Hi,

Am Montag, 23. April 2007 14:08 schrieb CyberOrg:
 Is anyone working on getting openSUSE native packages for LTSP 5 ?

 If so I would like to help, if not I would like to start working on it
 and would need all the help I can get, so if anyone is interested
 please get in touch with me.


See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :

  For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working
   on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE.

By the way: LTSP is a very great project!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread Christoph Thiel
Hi there,

On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 02:44:55PM +0200, David Mayr wrote:

 Am Montag, 23. April 2007 14:08 schrieb CyberOrg:
  Is anyone working on getting openSUSE native packages for LTSP 5 ?
 
  If so I would like to help, if not I would like to start working on it
  and would need all the help I can get, so if anyone is interested
  please get in touch with me.
 
 
 See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :
 
   For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working
on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE.

I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of
anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself were
involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but those
efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again...


Best,
Christoph
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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread David Mayr
Hi,

Am Montag, 23. April 2007 16:17 schrieb Christoph Thiel:
 On Mon, Apr 23, 2007 at 02:44:55PM +0200, David Mayr wrote:
  Am Montag, 23. April 2007 14:08 schrieb CyberOrg:
   Is anyone working on getting openSUSE native packages for LTSP 5 ?
  
   If so I would like to help, if not I would like to start working on it
   and would need all the help I can get, so if anyone is interested
   please get in touch with me.
 
  See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :
 
For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working
 on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE.

 I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of
 anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself
 were involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but
 those efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again...


I'd really like to work on this, but have no time for it until july because I 
have to write my diploma thesis. I have some extended experience with LTSP 
4.0 up to 4.2. I think it would be very good to have it in openSUSE. It 
offers many new opportunities by e.g. revitalizing old computers or making 
school class rooms cheaper and easier to administrate.


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Re: [opensuse-factory] GNOME?

2007-04-23 Thread James Ogley
 First, out of the box the fonts are horrible.  Why are they so ugly by
 default in GNOME but nice in KDE?  It's very easy to set this up in
 GNOME but what about newbies and businesses that don't want to spend
 the time doing all of this?

Have to say that they seem fine for me - can you provide more details
maybe?

 So my question is why isn't there an option to get
 a fully functioning banshee that works (not helix-banshee) like the
 amarok version in packman?  Also I don't want RealPlayer on my laptop
 ... no thanks!

Well, you sort of hit the nail on the head there.  PackMan.  The same
issues that mean you need to use a third party build of AmaroK apply to
Banshee.  Now, what you can do, since you're using PackMan anyway is use
their gstreamer010-* packages and the Banshee packages from the Build
Service (either the Banshee project or GNOME:Community) and you should
be good to go.

 Third, beagle integration and SLAB are very bad.  Again the beagle
 integration in KDE is terrific and kickoff works wonderfully but
 beagle in GNOME and SLAB are just horrendous.  Why is SLAB such a hog?

See my following thoughts on the issue:

http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/01/13
http://rubberturnip.org.uk/index.cgi/2007/02/20

The new version of slab, in Factory, seems to be less of a hog but it
still doesn't have the Beagle integration of KickOff.

 I'm just wondering where the love for GNOME is?

Yo!  Plus the whole GNOME team.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread Richard Bos
Op Monday 23 April 2007 16:17:58 schreef Christoph Thiel:
  See http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/Ltsp5 :
 
    For Novell, Christoph Thiel and Andreas Jaeger are working
     on integrating LTSP-5 into the next release of openSUSE.

 I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of
 anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself
 were involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but
 those efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again...

In Januari: by Jim Himself:
http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/rdiff/Ltsp/Ltsp5?rev1=1.9rev2=1.8

Around that time you were indeed involved, but that's was about it and that 
was than.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread Richard Bos
Op Monday 23 April 2007 16:17:58 schreef Christoph Thiel:
 I have no clue, who added us to that page :) Currently, I'm not aware of
 anyone working actively on making LTSP5 work on openSUSE. AJ and myself
 were involved in looking into what would be needed to get it running -- but
 those efforts stalled, IIUC. Maybe it's time to push it again...

They are indeed stalled on the fact, that it was not possible, at that time, 
to find a location that is _the_ project place for ltsp5.  It was just not 
possible to find a developer that could point to a url and state:  that are 
the ltsp5 sources, run make install and be happy.  That might have changed 
in the meantime, but I did not see it happen.  In my opinion without a good 
project home (sources location or released tarbal location) it is not 
possible to include a project into a distribution.
Hence, the first step for someone that starts to work on this, is I think to 
identify the ltsp5 releases tarbal location and have that included in 
opensuse.

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It is not inherited from our parents.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread James Tremblay
I found the source location weeks ago but it was not as it is now,would 
someone like to look again, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp
BTW, it sounds like with a little help we could actually change LTSP5 into 
something much more flexible if we replace the ltsp-client-build script 
with something that utilizes KIWI and add a management tool to build the 
different clients\images. cyberorg and I were looking at the code this AM. 
it will of course take some tweaking to get the local app and dev support 
running. You guys can do this in your sleep. your a great team and I really 
appreciate having you all to count on.
-- 
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Director of Technology
Newmarket School District
Novell CNE 3\4\5
CLE \ NCE in training.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] LTSP 5 + openSUSE

2007-04-23 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
David Mayr escribió:

 I'd really like to work on this, but have no time for it until july because I 
 have to write my diploma thesis. I have some extended experience with LTSP 
 4.0 up to 4.2. I think it would be very good to have it in openSUSE. It 
 offers many new opportunities by e.g. revitalizing old computers or making 
 school class rooms cheaper and easier to administrate.
 
 

As I told in Bugzilla, count me in, Im interested on this too, however
we need a roadmap to know exactly what needs to be done and the
estimated amount of time it will take,








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[opensuse-factory] blurry k-menu icons (10.3 Alpha3)

2007-04-23 Thread opensuse4u .

I have just installed and updated the latest openSUSE development
release, so now am running 10.3 Alpha3plus.
I have to say that it's faster than 10.2, however the icons on the
k-menu are a bit ugly for my taste... they are small and many of them
are blurry.. I prefer openSUSE  10.2's k-menu. Anyway, is there a way
to make them bigger? I would suggest to make the icons a little bit
bigger as they were in 10.2.
Greetings
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Re: [opensuse-factory] blurry k-menu icons (10.3 Alpha3)

2007-04-23 Thread Sid Boyce

opensuse4u . wrote:

I have just installed and updated the latest openSUSE development
release, so now am running 10.3 Alpha3plus.
I have to say that it's faster than 10.2, however the icons on the
k-menu are a bit ugly for my taste... they are small and many of them
are blurry.. I prefer openSUSE  10.2's k-menu. Anyway, is there a way
to make them bigger? I would suggest to make the icons a little bit
bigger as they were in 10.2.
Greetings
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I've not seen a problem either with x86 or x86_64.
Control Centre -- Appearance  Themes -- Icons -- Advanced
Regards
Sid.
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Specialist, Cricket Coach

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