Re: [opensuse-factory] cryptsetup, some old, big and fat disks with encryption=twofish256, ...

2007-05-03 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Jochen Hayek wrote:
> > Ludwig Nussel writes:
> LN> When migrating util-linux to util-linux-ng the loop-AES patch got 
> dropped.
> 
> Did anybody at SUSE consider the consequences of that for enterprise users?
> 
> But maybe I was the only one making use of that.
> 
> LN> The itercountk option was part of that patch.
> 
> LN> As quick workaround to be able to access your data
> LN> you can install util-linux (or just mount/losetup) from 10.2.
> 
> LN> The plan is to not reintroduce the loop-AES patch
> LN> (yast never offered to use any of it's options right?)
> 
> You are most probably right in that yast did not explicitly offer those 
> options,
> but it *did* generate fstab (resp. crypttab ?!?) entries making use of that.
> That's how I got to such encryption schemes.
> That was a couple of years ago ...

You are right. I just checked 9.2, yast indeed does use
itercountk=100 if one chooses to not mount the image on boot. Ie
different parameters depending on whether /etc/fstab or
/etc/cryptotab is used. That means we need to support an upgrade
path without hacks. Thanks for pointing that out!

> I did not suspect then, that wasn't a good idea.
> 
> If I had had the vague idea then, 
> that I depended on a pretty "off-road" patch resp. encryption scheme,
> that SUSE would drop one day around 2007 ...

I don't intend to drop support for encryption schemes yast once
offered.

> Excuse me, but is LUKS also such a quite "off-road" patch,
> that I should better not make myself dependent on?!?

Noone knows. It's supported on most distros with unmodified tools so chances
are good that you won't end up with unreadable images :-)

> LN> and also to get rid of the loop_fish2 kernel module for 10.3 though.
> 
> >> Shall I just forget twofish256 and migrate all my encrypted disks?
> 
> LN> If that's an option four you 
> LN> it certainly makes sense to use a more secure on-disk format.
> LN> 10.3 should still be able to read old images though.
> LN> Therefore cryptsetup/dm-crypt do suppport the loop_fish2 format 
> (twofish-cbc-null) in factory already.
> LN> What's missing atm is the ability to generate keys compatible with 
> the loop-AES patch.
> 
> You mean, the ability to cope with such encryption schemes,
> is that identical to generating such keys?!?

The itercountk parameter does not affect the format of the data on
the disk (twofish-cbc-null). It just specifies a different method
(sha512+aes instead of just sha512) to compute the binary key used
for encryption.

> LN> Please file a bug and assign it to me, 
> 
> I am not sure, we will really end there, but ... maybe.
> (I personally, I am already migrating my encrypted disks ...)

Looks like you are a brave man since you already tried to use your
crypted images on factory :-) So I'd be glad if you could keep you
old images around and verify that the new method to access them
actually works.

> Under http://en.opensuse.org/Submitting_Bug_Reports
> I can find a list of "How to ..." -- which one applies?

I've filed Bug #270833 myself. You may add yourself to CC if you are
iterested.

cu
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Re: [opensuse-factory] /etc/init.d/boot.crypto , LUKS extension, unattached devices

2007-05-03 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Jochen Hayek wrote:
> > Ludwig Nussel writes:
> 
> LN> Jochen Hayek wrote:
> 
> >> I prepare my /etc/crypttab and my /etc/fstab for quite a few different 
> external encrypted disks.
> >> And I don't attach them all at the same time, esp. not at boot time.
> 
> >> /etc/init.d/boot.crypto shouldn't bother attempting to mount disks,
> >> that are not currently attached.
> >> [...]
> 
> LN> Most current boot.crypto from factory already skips devices that 
> don't exist.
> 
> I had installed (upgraded) SUSE Linux 10.3 from CD-ROMs,
> then I upgraded certain parts from SUSE Factory,
> and ...
> 
> $ rpm --query -f /etc/init.d/boot.crypto
> aaa_base-10.1-41
> 
> 
> In aaa_base-10.3-29.i586.rpm (currently on SUSE Factory) :
> 
> $ rpm2cpio aaa_base-10.3-29.i586.rpm | cpio -tv | fgrep crypt
> 630 blocks
> -rw-r--r--   1 root root 1232 Apr 27 17:31 
> ./var/adm/fillup-templates/sysconfig.boot.crypto
> 
> 1st: I find it a little risky to upgrade esp. aaa_base.
> 
> 2nd: I cannot find boot.crypto in that package,
> so I cannot verify, what you're saying,
> and I would at least like to have a look at the new code in boot.crypto.

boot.crypto is now in the util-linux-crypto package as it entirely depends on
cryptsetup. You also need to upgrade the kernel, the 10.2 one does
not support the on disk format you need via dm-crypt.

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[opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

2007-05-03 Thread Philipp Thomas
* M9. ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20070502 18:22]:

> > You can download the source and binary kit from our webpage
> > www.3m.com/touch. Click on the Touch Drivers link and then click on
> > Linux Touchware Drivers. The source and object kit can be downloaded
> > from this page.

I downloaded the .src.rpm (wrapped in a zip archive ...) and checked it. It
does indeed contain binary-only parts so there is no way this can be made
part of openSUSE.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

2007-05-03 Thread M9.
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> I downloaded the .src.rpm (wrapped in a zip archive ...) and checked it. It
> does indeed contain binary-only parts so there is no way this can be made
> part of openSUSE.
> 
> Philipp

Made part of openSUSE...hmmm...

I was thinking more as a part of hardware detection, hardwaredriver
installation, itc: touchware.
If it can be compiled into the kernel, why cann't this be done at
installtime? (if a touchscreen is detected offcourse..)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

2007-05-03 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Philipp Thomas schreef:
>
>> I downloaded the .src.rpm (wrapped in a zip archive ...) and checked it. It
>> does indeed contain binary-only parts so there is no way this can be made
>> part of openSUSE.
>> 
>> Philipp
>
> Made part of openSUSE...hmmm...
>
> I was thinking more as a part of hardware detection, hardwaredriver
> installation, itc: touchware.
> If it can be compiled into the kernel, why cann't this be done at
> installtime? (if a touchscreen is detected offcourse..)

Did you check it?

The source RPM contains no sources - it contains lots of binary stuff:

tar tvzf TWDrvSources.tgz
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 bin/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 12166 2006-04-11 21:48:39 bin/MultiMonitorTool
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 35075 2006-04-11 21:48:40 bin/TwCalib
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/
-rw-r--r-- root/root  7677 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/tw_ioctl.h
-rw-r--r-- root/root  1497 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/TWEvents.h
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 controlXInput/
-rw-r--r-- root/root  6439 2006-04-11 21:45:12 controlXInput/controlXInput.c
-rw-r--r-- root/root   344 2006-04-11 21:45:12 controlXInput/makefile
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:04 daemon/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 19587 2006-04-11 21:48:39 daemon/TWDrvStartup
-rwxr-xr-x root/root   554 2006-04-11 21:48:37 install
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 lib/
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 14131 2006-04-11 21:48:39 lib/libMultiMonitor.so
-rwxr-xr-x root/root 40709 2006-04-11 21:48:40 lib/libTwCaliblib.so
-rwxr-xr-x root/root461488 2006-04-11 21:48:40 lib/libTwGraphics.so
-rw-r--r-- root/root  5887 2006-04-11 21:48:39 License.txt
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 mmtool/
-rw-r--r-- root/root   838 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/Makefile
-rw-r--r-- root/root  1725 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/TwMMTool.h
-rw-r--r-- root/root   414 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/Tool.cpp
-rw-r--r-- root/root 11376 2006-04-11 21:48:39 Readme.txt
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 TWCalib/
-rw-r--r-- root/root   926 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/Makefile
-rw-r--r-- root/root  1700 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/TwCalib.h
-rw-r--r-- root/root   391 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/Calib.cpp
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/
-rw-r--r-- root/root 16894 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/common.o.save
-rw-r--r-- root/root 48754 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.c
-rw-r--r-- root/root  8663 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.h
-rw-r--r-- root/root   736 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/Makefile24
-rw-r--r-- root/root   916 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/Makefile26
-rw-r--r-- root/root  1031 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/makefile
-rwxr-xr-x root/root  1993 2006-04-11 21:48:37 TWDrvStartup
-rwxr-xr-x root/root  5882 2006-04-11 21:48:37 TWXinputInstall.perl
drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:21 Xfree4.0.3/
-rw-r--r-- root/root 10158 2006-04-11 21:47:57 Xfree4.0.3/TWXinput_drv.o

The kernel parts are:
-rw-r--r-- root/root 16894 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/common.o.save
-rw-r--r-- root/root 48754 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.c
-rw-r--r-- root/root  8663 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.h

So, there's a common.o binary file.  We will never add such a driver to
our kernel.

It even does have:
#ifdef MODULE_LICENSE
MODULE_LICENSE("Proprietary");
#endif

So, this is not GPL compatible.

Sorry, no way, 3M is not providing a real source RPM for their kernel
driver,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

2007-05-03 Thread M9.
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Andreas Jaeger schreef:
> "M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Philipp Thomas schreef:
>>
>>> I downloaded the .src.rpm (wrapped in a zip archive ...) and checked it. It
>>> does indeed contain binary-only parts so there is no way this can be made
>>> part of openSUSE.
>>>
>>> Philipp
>> Made part of openSUSE...hmmm...
>>
>> I was thinking more as a part of hardware detection, hardwaredriver
>> installation, itc: touchware.
>> If it can be compiled into the kernel, why cann't this be done at
>> installtime? (if a touchscreen is detected offcourse..)
>
> Did you check it?
>
> The source RPM contains no sources - it contains lots of binary stuff:
>
> [snip...lots of binary stuff]
>
> So, there's a common.o binary file.  We will never add such a driver to
> our kernel.
>
> It even does have:
> #ifdef MODULE_LICENSE
> MODULE_LICENSE("Proprietary");
> #endif
>
> So, this is not GPL compatible.
>
> Sorry, no way, 3M is not providing a real source RPM for their kernel
> driver,
>
> Andreas

At this spot i am a complete noob...
What should 3M do, to provide a 'real' GPL compatible driver?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

2007-05-03 Thread Andreas Jaeger
"M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> At this spot i am a complete noob...
> What should 3M do, to provide a 'real' GPL compatible driver?

Complete source code - including sources for common.o - and everything
licensed under the GPL.  And then they should get it into the official
Linux kernel instead of maintaining there drop in driver,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Answer 3M about touchscreendrivers...(touchware)echo

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Andreas Jaeger schreef:
> "M9." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> At this spot i am a complete noob...
>> What should 3M do, to provide a 'real' GPL compatible driver?
> 
> Complete source code - including sources for common.o - and everything
> licensed under the GPL.  And then they should get it into the official
> Linux kernel instead of maintaining there drop in driver,
> 
> Andreas

OK, now i understand your point, i will now try to contact 3M again, and
'rub' this under their noses, (as a matter of speaking..)

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[opensuse-factory] Touchware-drivers under GPL.

2007-05-03 Thread M9.
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Letter, as sent to 3M.

> Good Day,
>
> The way your driver is maintained, it can not be inserted into the
> openSUSE kernel.
>
>> The source RPM contains no sources - it contains lots of binary stuff:
>>
>> tar tvzf TWDrvSources.tgz
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 bin/
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 12166 2006-04-11 21:48:39 bin/MultiMonitorTool
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 35075 2006-04-11 21:48:40 bin/TwCalib
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  7677 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/tw_ioctl.h
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  1497 2006-04-11 21:48:39 common/TWEvents.h
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 controlXInput/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  6439 2006-04-11 21:45:12 
>> controlXInput/controlXInput.c
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   344 2006-04-11 21:45:12 controlXInput/makefile
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:04 daemon/
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 19587 2006-04-11 21:48:39 daemon/TWDrvStartup
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root   554 2006-04-11 21:48:37 install
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 lib/
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 14131 2006-04-11 21:48:39 lib/libMultiMonitor.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root 40709 2006-04-11 21:48:40 lib/libTwCaliblib.so
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root461488 2006-04-11 21:48:40 lib/libTwGraphics.so
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  5887 2006-04-11 21:48:39 License.txt
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 mmtool/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   838 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/Makefile
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  1725 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/TwMMTool.h
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   414 2006-04-11 21:48:39 mmtool/Tool.cpp
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 11376 2006-04-11 21:48:39 Readme.txt
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:47:06 TWCalib/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   926 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/Makefile
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  1700 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/TwCalib.h
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   391 2006-04-11 21:48:40 TWCalib/Calib.cpp
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 16894 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/common.o.save
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 48754 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.c
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  8663 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.h
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   736 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/Makefile24
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root   916 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/Makefile26
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  1031 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/makefile
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root  1993 2006-04-11 21:48:37 TWDrvStartup
>> -rwxr-xr-x root/root  5882 2006-04-11 21:48:37 TWXinputInstall.perl
>> drwxr-xr-x root/root 0 2006-04-11 21:48:21 Xfree4.0.3/
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 10158 2006-04-11 21:47:57 Xfree4.0.3/TWXinput_drv.o
>>
>> The kernel parts are:
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 16894 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/common.o.save
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root 48754 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.c
>> -rw-r--r-- root/root  8663 2006-04-11 21:48:39 TwDrvKit/TWDriver.h
>>
>> So, there's a common.o binary file.  We will never add such a driver to
>> our kernel.
>>
>> It even does have:
>> #ifdef MODULE_LICENSE
>> MODULE_LICENSE("Proprietary");
>> #endif
>>
>> So, this is not GPL compatible.
>>
>> Sorry, no way, 3M is not providing a real source RPM for their kernel
>> driver,
>
>
> What should 3M do, to provide a 'real' GPL compatible driver?
>
>> Complete source code - including sources for common.o - and everything
>> licensed under the GPL.  And then they should get it into the official
>> Linux kernel instead of maintaining there drop in driver.
>
>
>
>
> Greetings, Rob Verberne.
>
>
> 30-04-07 20:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] , [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
> Good Afternoon:
>
> We do not have a binary touch driver for Suse 10.2 or 10.3, however we
> do offer a source and binary kit that can be used to install the driver.
>   Since Linux has a vast numbers of versions available, 3M Touch Systems
> provides the source and object kit to allow users to build our package
> for many versions of Linux .   However, with every different version of
> Linux, it is possible to encountert a situation where the kernel module
> will not build or will not load on a target system.   When this occurs
> the customer is responsible for finding the issues that prevent the
> driver from building as we do not have the resources to investigate and
> troubleshoot the many variations of Linux and kernels.
>
> You can download the source and binary kit from our webpage
> www.3m.com/touch. Click on the Touch Drivers link and then click on
> Linux Touchware Drivers. The source and object kit can be downloaded
> from this page.
>
> Thank you, Technical Support
> 3M Touch Systems, Methuen
> 978-659-9200


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[opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.

2007-05-03 Thread M9.
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Hello,

http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html

Is this also something for 10.3?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.

2007-05-03 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 11:54:22PM +0200, M9. wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> http://www.ntfs-3g.org/index.html
> 
> Is this also something for 10.3?

If it is in the main kernel.org tree, yes.  If not, go bug the developer
to submit it there.  Also, you can easily build a KMP for it if you
want.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.

2007-05-03 Thread Cristian Rodriguez R.
Greg KH escribió:

> If it is in the main kernel.org tree, yes.  

greg.. did you actually read the page !? it is a userspace driver!! it
cannot be in the kernel because is not a kernel module ;-P



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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.

2007-05-03 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 07:31:58PM -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> Greg KH escribi?:
> 
> > If it is in the main kernel.org tree, yes.  
> 
> greg.. did you actually read the page !? it is a userspace driver!! it
> cannot be in the kernel because is not a kernel module ;-P

Ah, my apologies, you are correct.

I have no idea about non-kernel related things :)

greg k-h
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Re: [opensuse-factory] ntfs-3g.

2007-05-03 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Friday 04 May 2007 02:36:29 am Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 07:31:58PM -0400, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:
> > Greg KH escribi?:
> > > If it is in the main kernel.org tree, yes.
> >
> > greg.. did you actually read the page !? it is a userspace driver!! it
> > cannot be in the kernel because is not a kernel module ;-P
>
> Ah, my apologies, you are correct.
>
> I have no idea about non-kernel related things :)

Yep, but you do give consistent answers :-)

Because this is bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=247750 and you 
said the same thing there.  Understandable, because a FS in normally in the 
kernel.

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