Re: [opensuse-factory] Init Scripts broken

2007-06-22 Thread Michal Marek
Andras Barna wrote:
 HI
 Yesterday I updated to my alpha 5 to Factory
 after i rebooted, almost all services started 2 or 3 times

What does 'rpm -q --changelog sysvinit | head' say? I've also seen this
and this commit fixes it:

http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-commit/2007-06/msg00744.html

A temporary woraround is to disable parallel booting in /etc/sysconfig/boot.

hth,
Michal
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Init Scripts broken

2007-06-22 Thread Stephan Kulow
Am Donnerstag 21 Juni 2007 schrieb Andras Barna:
 HI
 Yesterday I updated to my alpha 5 to Factory
 after i rebooted, almost all services started 2 or 3 times, so i tried
 to remove from them but e.g   I run yast2 runlevel or automatically
 it recreates them.

How your rc5.d looks like is of little interest unless you run with 
RUN_PARALLEL=no (which would be a workaround for your current problem).

The problem you see is fixed in sysvinit. Look around for this changelog:

* Mi Jun 20 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- startpar: mark started processes as running

Unfortunately I can't tell you when it will see the Factory sync.

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Init Scripts broken

2007-06-22 Thread Andras Barna

# rpm -q --changelog sysvinit | head
* Mon Jun 18 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Add importance for some scripts within startpar
- Handle I/O blocked process very heavy in startpar
- Add new user space program fsync(1) which use fsync(2) for
 updating the in-core state with the hard disk

* Wed Jun 13 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- bug #229210: avoid HDIO_DRIVE_CM ioctl for real SCSI disks.

* Tue Jun 12 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
# rpm -q sysvinit
sysvinit-2.86-85
#

from the commit mail:
-Release:84
+Release:85

interesting, ok so wait for sync

Thanks for your answers

Regards

On 6/22/07, Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Donnerstag 21 Juni 2007 schrieb Andras Barna:
 HI
 Yesterday I updated to my alpha 5 to Factory
 after i rebooted, almost all services started 2 or 3 times, so i tried
 to remove from them but e.g   I run yast2 runlevel or automatically
 it recreates them.

How your rc5.d looks like is of little interest unless you run with
RUN_PARALLEL=no (which would be a workaround for your current problem).

The problem you see is fixed in sysvinit. Look around for this changelog:

* Mi Jun 20 2007 - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- startpar: mark started processes as running

Unfortunately I can't tell you when it will see the Factory sync.

Greetings, Stephan

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-ux] Liberation fonts as default

2007-06-22 Thread Christian Boltz
Hello,

on Sonntag, 17. Juni 2007, Stephan Kulow wrote:
 Am Saturday 16 June 2007 schrieb Stephan Binner:
  What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS
  metrics? I see sense for using it in office documents but
  desktop/application interfaces?

 Because web sites are layout for these metrics. And web sites are an
 important part of today's desktops.

*ROTFL*

Sorry, but websites with 100% exact layout are things that will _never_ 
happen because
- you don't know the size (especially width) of the browser window, so 
  linebreaks aren't always the same
- users can change the font size
- a font might be missing
- additional CSS code defined in the browser (user stylesheet)
- browser bugs
- unexpected browsers (lynx anyone? ;-)
- ...

This doesn't mean that a page has to break on these things - if the 
author did his job well, it will look good at all fonts and font sizes, 
with any window size etc. so the page is nearly unbreakable.
(You might have noticed my stress test on the redesign for 
*.opensuse.org in opensuse-wiki ;-)


If you really want to have a perfectly reproducable layout on your 
website, you should publish it as PNG instead of using HTML ;-)  - but 
don't complain if search engines and also your visitors don't really 
like this...


Regards,

Christian Boltz
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-ux] Liberation fonts as default

2007-06-22 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-17 14:21]:
 Am Saturday 16 June 2007 schrieb Stephan Binner:
  On Thursday 14 June 2007 06:02:29 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote:
   I was thinking if the future distributions install them as default fonts
   in Desktop and apps, then it will look good out of the box.
 
  What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS metrics? I
  see sense for using it in office documents but desktop/application
  interfaces?
 Because web sites are layout for these metrics. And web sites are an important
 part of today's desktops.

And what's the exact releationship between the desktop font and the
default font in the browser?


Thanks,
   Bernhard
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