[opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE

2007-07-23 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
After I have installed Alpha6 with KDE, YaST has Gnome icons.

Bug or feature?

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Re: [opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Gregg Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've tried Alpha6 (i386) on 2 different machines now. Neither machine
 can add more software packages after the initial installation.  They
 keep erroring with 'No installation source'.  It looks like my
 symptoms are similar to bug reports 293586 and 293705.  I'm a newbie.
 Is there anything that I can do to help?

You could try to install the new libzypp package from the next factory
update - but that's all here.

Thanks for testing!

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Silviu Marin-Caea [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 After I have installed Alpha6 with KDE, YaST has Gnome icons.

YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature.

If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management

2007-07-23 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi,

Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
 Dňa Po 23. Júl 2007 07:40 Gregg Nicholas napísal:
 I've tried Alpha6 (i386) on 2 different machines now. Neither machine
 can add more software packages after the initial installation.  They
 keep erroring with 'No installation source'.
You could add

enabled=1
autorefresh=1

to the files in /etc/zypp/repos.d/. Afterwards I were able to install
packages with both zypper and with YaST2 sw_single.

Tobias

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[opensuse-factory] Broken links on http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version

2007-07-23 Thread Bjoern Voigt

Hello!

There are some broken torrent links on 
http://en.opensuse.org/Development_Version


Currently these links are broken:

   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha6-i386.torrent
   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha6-x86_64.torrent
   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha6-ppc.torrent
   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha5_Alpha6-i386.torrent
   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha5_Alpha6-x86_64.torrent
   * 
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/10.3-Alpha6/iso/torrent/openSUSE-10.3-Alpha5_Alpha6-ppc.torrent

If it's not possible to provide the torrent files, I think it's better 
to remove the above links.


Greetings,
Björn
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[opensuse-factory] util-linux-crypto

2007-07-23 Thread Doctor Nemo
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I have OpenSuSE 10.3 Alpha6
I have a encrypted partition. Where is util-linux-crypto? I need it
for decrypt the partion. The DVD no contains it.
Thanks.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE

2007-07-23 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Monday 23 July 2007 10:01:11 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
 YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature.

 If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme,

Funny decision, given we now know that those icons will integrate badly for 
2/3 users.

But at least it's good to have the crystal-theme easily available so you can 
use YaST without getting depressed.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] util-linux-crypto

2007-07-23 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Doctor Nemo wrote:
 I have OpenSuSE 10.3 Alpha6
 I have a encrypted partition. Where is util-linux-crypto? I need it
 for decrypt the partion. The DVD no contains it.

Renamed to cryptsetup.

cu
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[opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-fr] Re: [opensuse-doc] How to name that thing? Repository/installation source/Catalog...

2007-07-23 Thread Pascal Bleser
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jdd wrote:
 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
 The decision was to use repository.  Other names considered where
 installation source and catalog.
 
 could you also ask your translation team to give the official translation.
 
 At least in french, repository is not easy to translate. The very same
 word exists but is completely obsolete (repositoire - meaning the place
 where you store dead human corpse to family last visit :-()).
 
 http://fr.opensuse.org/Glossaire_d'équivalences_entre_l'anglais_et_le_français
 
 the best word seems to be dépôt, but Réserve may be better. Package
 repository gives Réserve de paquetages, Dépôt de paquetages
 (paquetage is very odd in french, but most used anyway)

Dépôt is the adequate term IMO.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Den Monday 23 July 2007 10:01:11 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
 YaST has the Tango icons - this is a feature.

 If you want the old icons, please use the opensuse-Crystal yast theme,

 Funny decision, given we now know that those icons will integrate badly for 
 2/3 users.

If you have specific icons that do not look as professional as the other
Tango icons, please open a bugreport naming that icon.

Tango icons in general fit much better to KDE4 than the crystal ones -
and we would like to maintain only one icon set,

Andreas
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Re: [Martin Schlander] [opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3

2007-07-23 Thread CyberOrg

On 7/23/07, Matthias Hopf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Martin Schlander [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 As feature freeze is drawing closer and compiz-fusion have yet to release I'm
 wondering what will be done here.

What exactly are you refering to with compiz-fusion? The core package or
the extras? compiz-fusion AFAIU stands for the community plugins only,
and is provided in X11:Xgl in the openSUSE build service as
compiz-extra. It should probably be renamed.

compiz has been updated to latest git lately (and not much tested yet).
Cyberorg is working on the community packages, I don't know ATM whether
he has already updated compiz-extra in X11:Xgl to a new version. Adding
him to CC so he can comment on that.


Compiz-extra will be dropped from that repo. Compiz-Fusion will
consist of following:

1. compiz-fusion-plugins-main
2. compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
3. compiz-fusion-plugins-unsupported
4. CompizConfig-Settings-Manager (ccsm) containing gconf and kconfig backends
5. libcompizconfig (ccsm dep and provides ccp plugin for ini backend)
6. compizconfig-python (ccsm dep)


compiz is right now as new as it can be. I tried to wait for the new
release, but that took too long, so I went for a git snapshot. It
hopefully is stable enough.


Unfortunately compiz package in X11:XGL need some more work, I am not
sure gconf schemas are applied right and default settings(decoration,
opensuse logo etc) patches actually work. I will move fusion etc there
once I am happy with compiz package there.

gnome-xgl-settings might need to be updated or improved so that it can
dynamically recognize all the plugins and offer settings options the
way ccsm does or drop it completely in favor of ccsm or use it just to
activate and deactivate Xgl. It might also be good idea to offer
choice to switch between Xgl/Nvidia/AIGLX with smart default.

I felt compiz-git package from home:cyberorg worked much better with
ccp (ini/flatfile backend) when configured with ccsm.

I have updated all the packages in home:cyberorg to todays git
checkout of both compiz and compiz-fusion/community packages.

To test those packages run this in shell as root:

rpm -e compiz compiz-gnome compiz-kde
zypper sa http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cyberorg/SUSE_Factory*
cftest
zypper in compiz-git-all (this will pull all the required packages)

once everything is downloaded and installed as user launch compiz as follows:

compiz --replace ccp
ccsm 

Enable Decoration plugin and add gtk-window-decorator as command option there.

*http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:/cyberorg/openSUSE_10.2/
if using 10.2

** With zypper broken on factory, you may have to manually enable the
repo from /etc/zypper/repo.d/cftest.repo by adding enabled=1 and
manually run zypper refresh cftest.

Although there has not been any 'official' release of fusion packages
yet, packages from git work quite well, I would love to have  them in
10.3.


Also I do not know right now how far we are already in the process of
eventually adding packages built by the openSUSE community (Cyberorg is
not working for SUSE) to our distributions.


1 Million downloads in 4 months, if statistic over at Build Service is
to be believed, makes a strong point that packages from X11:Xgl should
be incorporated in 10.3.

Cheers

-J

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Re: [Martin Schlander] [opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3

2007-07-23 Thread Martin Schlander
Den Monday 23 July 2007 12:27:17 skrev Matthias Hopf:
 What exactly are you refering to with compiz-fusion? The core package or
 the extras? compiz-fusion AFAIU stands for the community plugins only,
 and is provided in X11:Xgl in the openSUSE build service as
 compiz-extra. It should probably be renamed.

Yes, I had misunderstood the new stucture. I thought there was only one 
project now, compiz-fusion - and that David R. was a principle developer of 
that, who might be able to pull some strings and give us some extra 
consideration. I realize now this is not how it works at all.

One of the reasons I asked is that for 10.2 some Novell projects released with 
rather unfortunate timing from openSUSE perspective - iirc both Banshee and 
Mono released new versions very shortly after openSUSE feature-freeze. 
Personally I don't care about any of those projects, but I care about 
openSUSE and it seemed silly that there was no coordination. 

I was hoping we could avoid a repeat. But since the release of compiz + 
compiz-extra is not under our control at all, I'm just wasting people's time.

So all I'm left with is just to express my hopes that we can ship both 
compiz(-core) _and_ compiz-extra with 10.3. 

I guess the new settings manager is in -extra...
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Re: [opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management

2007-07-23 Thread Sid Boyce

Tobias Burnus wrote:

Hi,

Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:

Dňa Po 23. Júl 2007 07:40 Gregg Nicholas napísal:

I've tried Alpha6 (i386) on 2 different machines now. Neither machine
can add more software packages after the initial installation.  They
keep erroring with 'No installation source'.

You could add

enabled=1
autorefresh=1

to the files in /etc/zypp/repos.d/. Afterwards I were able to install
packages with both zypper and with YaST2 sw_single.

Tobias



Good fix, for some reason this data was not being written to the files 
when you setup Installation Source in YaST.

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[opensuse-factory] Kinternet not completes the connection

2007-07-23 Thread Juan Erbes

After upgrade to 10.3 alpha 6, Kinternet not completes a dialup the
connection. I downgraded to previous versions the packages ppp, smppp
and kinternet, and the problem continues. I configured wvdial, and it
works fine.

The log of wvdial is:
CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS
-- Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] }9}}} }*} } }#}%B#}%}%}Rp,};}'}}(}p:~
-- PPP negotiation detected.
-- Starting pppd at Mon Jul 23 08:51:25 2007
-- Pid of pppd: 4969
-- Using interface ppp0
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- local  IP address 200.68.236.83
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- remote IP address 200.68.236.254
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- primary   DNS address 200.49.192.41
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- secondary DNS address 200.49.207.41
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]
-- Script /etc/ppp/ip-up run successful
-- Default route Ok.
-- Nameserver (DNS) Ok.
-- Connected... Press Ctrl-C to disconnect
-- pppd: h[12][06][08]

The log of kinternet is:
pppd[0]: CONNECT 50666/ARQ/V90/LAPM/V42BIS
pppd[0]: -- Carrier detected.  Waiting for prompt.
pppd[0]: ** Bienvenidos a Belgrano 2**
pppd[0]: Usuario:
pppd[0]: -- Looks like a login prompt.
pppd[0]: -- Sending: emp/jerbes
pppd[0]: emp/jerbes
pppd[0]: Password:
pppd[0]: -- Looks like a password prompt.
pppd[0]: -- Sending: (password)
pppd[0]: Entering PPP Session.
pppd[0]: IP address is 200.45.208.111
pppd[0]: MTU is 1524.
pppd[0]: -- Looks like a welcome message.
pppd[0]: -- Starting pppd at Mon Jul 23 09:14:58 2007
pppd[0]: -- Pid of pppd: 6443

Kinternet, do'nt continues at this point, and later the connection was closed.

Thanks


Re: [opensuse-factory] Gnome icons for YaST in KDE

2007-07-23 Thread Silviu Marin-Caea
On Monday 23 July 2007 01:09:54 pm Andreas Jaeger wrote:

 Tango icons in general fit much better to KDE4 than the crystal ones -
 and we would like to maintain only one icon set,

And if at some point in the future SUSE will make a KDE4 YaST icon set and 
you'll change your mind and be willing to maintain that too.. we'll be 
happier :-)

Until then.. we console ourselves that it's just an icon set, a minor 
concession (?) :-) and we take note that Novell has become a KDE patron.

A very good thing.

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[opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: libzypp memory consumption

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Vetter
Hi,

I installed the x86_64 DVD yesterday and had problems when I selected a 
big amount of packages. 

First I selected a pattern (KDE4), the machine begins to
resolve the dependencies (autocheck is on by default). After some time X
is stopped, it falls into the ncurses interface and it shows a red error
without explanation, what exactly happened.
 
The second time I ommitted KDE4, but selected all other patterns then 
switched to package groups. And began to select whole package groups with 
All in this list. This worked for the first one or two, but then the 
same as above: The machine begins to resolve the dependencies (autocheck 
is on by default). After some time X is stopped, it falls into the ncurses 
interface and it shows a red error without explanation, what exactly 
happened.

After the second experience of this, I switched to the console log and saw 
that the Out-Of-Memory function killed hal daemon. The machine has 1 GB 
RAM, so this should not happen.

Is there a known problem with memory consumption during installation? 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?

2007-07-23 Thread Bernhard Walle
* Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-23 18:04]:
 
 is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It 
 starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box:
 An error occured during installation.

Can you please open a Bugzilla for that issue?


Thanks,
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It 
 starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box:
 An error occured during installation.

 This happens on 2 different 64bit machines. The firmware test in alpha5 
 x86_64 works.

I guess not many test it - please file a bug in bugzilla,

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: libzypp memory consumption

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Martin Schlander wrote:

 Den Monday 23 July 2007 16:00:54 skrev Andreas Vetter:
  Is there a known problem with memory consumption during installation?
 
 http://lists.opensuse.org/zypp-devel/2007-07/msg00059.html

ok, that explains ;-)  it says (17. July):

...
Status/problems:


- Memory leaks - Stano reported severe memory leaks during installation,
  installation on a 512MB system failed (out of memory)
...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?

2007-07-23 Thread Andreas Vetter
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Bernhard Walle wrote:

 * Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-23 18:04]:
  
  is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It 
  starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box:
  An error occured during installation.
 
 Can you please open a Bugzilla for that issue?

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=293974 

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Re: [opensuse-factory] compiz-fusion and 10.3

2007-07-23 Thread JP Rosevear
On Sun, 2007-07-22 at 00:12 +0200, Martin Schlander wrote:
 As feature freeze is drawing closer and compiz-fusion have yet to release I'm 
 wondering what will be done here.
 
 Will compiz-fusion(-git) move into factory before feature freeze?

Yes, this is the plan.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] problem with YAST software management

2007-07-23 Thread Gregg Nicholas
Thanks for all the helpful suggestions on fixing YAST software 
management.  Using command-line zypper instead of YAST seems to work 
quite well. 

The suggestion about modifying the repo files allowed the gui YAST tool 
to work again.

(adding these lines to the files in /etc/zypp/repos.d/)
enabled=1
autorefresh=1

I'm back to playing with Alpha6...
Thanks again,
Gregg
(this group is much nicer than the stereotypical linux community)

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