Re: [yast-devel] Re: [opensuse-factory] YaST2 SSHD Module - Call for help/volunteers
* Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-23 17:04]: So, either everyone likes the current yast2-sshd or nobody uses it. In that case, why should we care :)? Maybe nobody who is reading this list uses it. I didn't know that it exist, and vim /etc/ssh/sshd_config is still faster. But I don't say that this module is useless for newbies! But they don't read that list. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How To Upgrade System with Separate /var Partition
* Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-16 09:32]: Lukas Ocilka [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems that YaST has sometimes problems when upgrading system with separate /var partition to openSUSE 10.3 due to the recent changes in hard disk device names. A new article How To Upgrade System with Separate /var Partition describes how to avoid suffering from this illness: http://en.opensuse.org/How_To_Upgrade_System_with_Separate_/var_Partition Please, extend/fix that article in case of any inconsistence, mistake, or just if you feel anything could be added. I'd like to link to this article from the release notes. [Lukas, you wrote something important below the signature marker. My mailer does not quote this piece of text by default ;) ] There was no signature marker in his mail. Signatures are separated by -- , not by -- (note the trailing space). Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How To Upgrade System with Separate /var Partition
* Karl Eichwalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-16 10:19]: Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [Lukas, you wrote something important below the signature marker. My mailer does not quote this piece of text by default ;) ] There was no signature marker in his mail. Signatures are separated by -- , not by -- (note the trailing space). Even worse. Checking Lukas' mail once again, I see - -- that Emacs/Gnus displays as -- and treats as a signature separator. The leading - is needed for PGP. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Missing kernel-modules for update-kernel
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-10-13 15:22]: Am Samstag 13 Oktober 2007 schrieb Manfred Tremmel: it doesn't work after the update, so the dependency should point to kernel-default = 2.6.22.5-31 and not only kernel-default I think. It works fine here. On two different computers even. x86-64 vs. i386 maybe? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] broken grub after update from beta1
* Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-08 12:25]: I updated a x86_64 machine from beta1 to beta3. After the packages were installed I found the machine in a reboot loop. The grub boot loader was not working any longer. So I tried Repair System. The automatic one obviously deleted Windows from menu.lst. Then it threw an error about not being able to access /dev/fd/62. A second try with this one left me with a single entry for linux (i.e. failsafe and xen were gone, too). Please file a bugreport for such cases. If you didn't do something very special, that's always a bug. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] [status report] openSUSE distribution, week 36
* Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-05 02:27]: In my system with the last update of factory (comes from beta 1 the problem) all applications based on wxGTK (such as audacity or amule) fail in 32 or 64 bits when I try to save a file. For example for audacity I got with ddd in 32 bits kde version: I also could reproduce the problem here. Because I also frequently uses Audacity, I fixed that now. It should appear in soon in Factory. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: openSUSE distribution, week 36
* Philipp Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-05 12:10]: On Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:27:47 +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote: I also could reproduce the problem here. Because I also frequently uses Audacity, I fixed that now. It should appear in soon in Factory. Was war denn die Ursache? free() on a value that should not be free()d. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] About dropped packages -- xmms
* Wolfgang Rosenauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-05 13:23]: Andras Barna wrote: So yesterday I searched for one of the my favorite application: xmms using webpin, in Factory only one result was: xfce4-panel-plugin-xmms, iirc it requires xmms, but where is xmms?? OK in coolo's answer there's the often word, but I don't understand why was it dropped. I searched the bugzilla, no bugs shown regarding to xmms. Yes I know what ppl are saying about xmms, but I like it and imho other people likes it too. What are saying ppl bad about xmms? some examples: 1. unmaintained. false: [2] [3] 2. it's buggy, as i said no xmms bugs in bugzilla 3. uses gtk 1. so? gtk1 is in Factory etc I understand the gtk1 part but I wonder what the replacement application would be? I use Audacious. Understands the same themes. http://packman.links2linux.de/package/audacious Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] High number of serious bugs in GNOME
* Alberto Passalacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-02 17:52]: during a discussion on IRC it emerged that GNOME still has a very high number of blockers and critical bugs. GNOME will be updated before release. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Bug 305195
* Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-30 12:44]: Is there someone who does not experience this bug with Beta2? If not, I should raise it to Blocker. Please don't. As Christoph pointed out in the last status mail, GNOME will be updated anyway before openSUSE 10.3 gets released. So, maybe that update also fixes this bug ... Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Audacity in Opensuse 10.3 beta 1 or 2
* Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-28 01:31]: Program received signal SIGABRT, Aborted. [Switching to Thread 0xb676a6d0 (LWP 28895)] 0xe410 in __kernel_vsyscall () (gdb) (gdb) bt Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] An adventurous update to beta2...
* Klaus Kaempf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-27 09:41]: * Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Aug 27. 2007 01:45]: Hello, I just updated my 10.2 to 10.3 beta2 and, well, it was a bit adventurous ;-) and I'm asking myself if someone has tried to install beta2 as update - there are too many obvious bugs, and some of them are critical from my POV :-( Well, yes we are testing it but in parallel with the community ;-} Updating 10.2 - Beta 1 worked for me. Beta 1 - Beta 2, too. So it's not that nobody uses 10.3 in SUSE. ;-) Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Beta2 problem with radeon graphic card.
* Piotr Miszczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-25 18:11]: I have problem since beta1 (in beta2 too) with ATI Radeon X1150 integrated graphic card. System boots normally until X starts. Then is only the black screen witch square (about 1cm big) mouse cursor, no kdm. It's happening with radeon diver, after changing driver to vesa system boots just fine. I think it's driver problem. Because in Alpha7 everything works ok. If I now change xorg-x11-driver-video from 7.2-159 (beta2) to version 7.2-140 (alpha7) system boots ok. Drivers from Beta1 don't work too. Can you please create a bug report on https://bugzilla.novell.com. Thanks! Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] gnome-commander
* Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-18 01:09]: I would like to have the new gnome-commander (1.2.4) release in 10.3 and the gnome cd too. gnome-commander was updated to 1.2.4 in Factory. So the only “problem” is to have it on the GNOME CD, not the update. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] More packages to remove from Gnome CD.
* Claes Bäckström [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-05 22:37]: sensors Isn't that needed for some GNOME applet that displays the CPU temperature? At least gkrellm uses it, but I don't know if that is on the GNOME CD. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] pdftk 1.41
* Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-26 16:15]: Which version of pdftk is being included in 10.3? I just found that version 1.41 shown here: http://www.pdfhacks.com/pdftk/ also does stamping beside watermarking. Please file a bug report as “Enhancement”. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] pdftk 1.41
* Carlos F Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-26 17:27]: On Thu July 26 2007 09:01, Bernhard Walle wrote: Please file a bug report as “Enhancement”. OK, submitted as Bug 29479. Current Novell bug numbers have 6 digits. ;-) Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Alpha 6: Firmware test x86_64 broken?
* Andreas Vetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-23 18:04]: is it just me, or is Firmware Test from x86_64 and i386 DVD broken? It starts, falls back to ncurses and says in a red box: An error occured during installation. Can you please open a Bugzilla for that issue? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-announce] Announcing openSUSE 10.3 Alpha6
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-20 10:58]: Am Donnerstag 19 Juli 2007 schrieb David Bolt: [1] It's still going to be useful to add extra packages/patterns and remove unwanted (non-OSS?) packages/patterns, as well as adding extra, third party, repositories. Actually this is very likely to be the goal of further releases: make the CD the installation medium of first choice and provide the DVD as collection of repositories and extra patterns. So you have to download and burn *two* media every time you want a real system which has more than a few KDE OR GNOME applications? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-09 13:57]: Am Sonntag 08 Juli 2007 schrieb Alberto Passalacqua: Maybe CTAN usage statistics can help the decision. Someone thinks noone uses LaTeX, but I think the numbers are interesting, considering it's a specific tool: http://www.ctan.org/usage/ftp/usage_200706.html To give an idea, in June 2007: Total Hits: 1675377 Hits per Hour - Avg: 2326 - Max: 14167 Visits per Day: Avg: 2799 - Max: 4359 KBytes per Day: Avg: 54182838 - Max: 95443318 Yeah, and most of these KBytes are spent by people downloading it for windows and MacOSX. Yes, because Linux users download it from their distribution. And the question here is not if we make it impossible to use LaTeX for opensuse users. We discuss here if it takes a download or not to install it. And I don't think today's LaTeX users have a huge problem downloading it. Just as all these windows and MacOS users haven't. So why do we make a DVD at all? Just one CD for the installation and the rest can be downloaded from FTP. At least it should be on the DVD9. Or what's the point of buying the box if the user has do download all via FTP? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietarysoftware in openSUSE
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-09 14:21]: Am Montag 09 Juli 2007 schrieb Bernhard Walle: So why do we make a DVD at all? Just one CD for the installation and the rest can be downloaded from FTP. At least it should be on the DVD9. Or what's the point of buying the box if the user has do download all via FTP? the user is pretty hard to grasp. And yes, if the user had to download all via FTP, it would be pointless to sell a DVD. But if roughly a third of users have to download tex when they need it, it sounds still like a good deal. So why do we have KOffice on the DVD? I don't think that KOffice is used by 1/3 of the openSUSE users. I never met people that use KOffice (except maybe here in the SUSE offices), but I met a lot that use TeX. And the fact that TeX Live needs a lot of DVD space is a reason *why* I want to see it included in the DVD that is in the box. It's not a problem to download a package of 10-20 MiB even with a weak internet connection. But it *is* for a package of 500 MiB. Even for DSL 2000 it's a bit annoying. Not a big problem, but annoying. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-07 16:27]: TeXlive Also the DVD in the box? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Results of survey on use of proprietary software in openSUSE
* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-07 16:27]: TeXlive No TeX distribution in the DVD set? Please not. The survey is *not* representative, and why should a TeX user take part at all if a survey is titled 'Proprietary Software'? It was IMO *very* hidden that TeX is in it. And TeX users are not people that read the openSUSE news every few days ... Please consider not only people coming from Windows as the target of openSUSE but also people who have been using Unix for a long time, mostly in the academic segment. I'm sure there are KDE and GNOME toys on the CD which have less users. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Dist Meeting 2007-07-05
* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-05 09:09]: * Improve debuginfo packages To get a complete stack trace, we need several debuginfo packages. The simple idea would be to copy dependencies from the main package to the debuginfo package. But this would give too many dependencies since it would lead to include always the gcc-debuginfo package (currently 300 MB). Another idea is to reduce the size of debuginfo packages and mark them only for backtrace - with removing the source code. But then I'd be for not removing the source code debug packages but split into -debuginfo and -debuginfo-source, for example. However, why not copying just the dependencies with a few exception, e.g. the gcc-debuginfo that you mentioned? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] How can we integrate OpenVZ into openSUSE ?
* Druid [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-24 19:22]: It was the opensuse list, now here... Whats next, alexey? I didn't read other mails of him. So maybe you're right. Maybe not. It's not my task to decide this. :-) Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Integration of external repositories
* Rafał Miłecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-24 16:45]: Andreas Jaeger mentioned over month ago that openSUSE 10.3 will provide better integration of external repos: http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-announce/2007-05/msg2.html I use openSUSE FACTORY version and can not see any nice method of adding Packman or Guru in YaST. Is any team doing something about this? I think openSUSE needs some easy way of adding 3rd party repositories. We simply can't rebuild all our packages on each beta release (or even on each Factory sync). We usually start in the RC phase because of library freeze, so that packages are ready with the final release. Regards, Bernhard (Packman member) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Integration of external repositories
* Rafał Miłecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-24 23:19]: 2007/6/24, Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED]: We simply can't rebuild all our packages on each beta release (or even on each Factory sync). We usually start in the RC phase because of library freeze, so that packages are ready with the final release. Are you serious!? Adding such a functionality in RC (Thu, Sep 20: openSUSE 10.3 Release Candidate 1 release) gives us only 14 days for finding and fixing bugs. It's extremely short time. Adding which functionality? We (Packman) simply don't provide packages for 10.3 until the first RC is released. It's simply not possible to rebuild all packages every two weeks. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: [opensuse-ux] Liberation fonts as default
* Stephan Kulow [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-17 14:21]: Am Saturday 16 June 2007 schrieb Stephan Binner: On Thursday 14 June 2007 06:02:29 Mohammad Bhuyan wrote: I was thinking if the future distributions install them as default fonts in Desktop and apps, then it will look good out of the box. What's wrong with DejaVu? Why has the default desktop to use MS metrics? I see sense for using it in office documents but desktop/application interfaces? Because web sites are layout for these metrics. And web sites are an important part of today's desktops. And what's the exact releationship between the desktop font and the default font in the browser? Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Apparent new user
* Keith Goggin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-06-17 16:38]: During installation of Alpha5 I am asked if I wish to disable automatic login in the following message:- The automatic login feature is enabled for user ... Now you have added a new user. Disable automatic login? I checked Yast User Management and no second user exists? Please file a bug report at http://bugzilla.novell.com. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] 10.3a4 software management :(
* Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-27 15:10]: (During installation:) The yast boot loader module is still buggy. For root = /dev/md2 it suggests to put the boot loader on the root partition - I doubt that works. WHen I tick MBR, both MBR and root partition are ticked, so I think why not and finish out of that module. Being a suspicious burnt child by now, I enter back in - only root partition is ticked. I tick MBR, and untick root partition. This times yast gets the message. Why don't you open a bug report? This is not a mailing list to report bugs but to *disucss* something. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] joke of the day
* Rafał Miłecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-29 18:04]: I think IP address should be accepted by YaST. I even can not see any reason why it should be not. I think you should create a bug report. Not every YaST developer reads that list ... Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] mplayer should not depend on lirc
* Felix Miata [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-14 15:30]: My system has no hardware support for infrared. In a quest to recover space from unneeded programs, I attempted to remove lirc and recover 8.8M. YaST claims MPlayer needs this. Why? Because it was built against lirc_client.so. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packages in default installation (tsclient)
* Terje J. Hanssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-02 12:50]: Terje J. Hanssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 26 Sep 2006 I haven't read through this whole thread, but I miss immediately the following two usual packages for seamless integration of openSUSE Linux with Windows (to run Winapps): * rdesktop * tsclient I filed a bug about ICA and a RFE about missing tsclient rpms at. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=223735 As I still haven't found any tsclient rpms for openSUSE, who does possibly build it? Maybe you should just read that bugreport, at the end there's a URL. Thanks, Bernhard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Apt update - opinions needed
* Philipp Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-21 13:25]: [ ] Stay with stable apt and synaptic [X] Update to beta apt with repomd support and forgo synaptic Bernhard pgpUjhceK1bBF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Call for testers: ntfsprogs
Hello, * Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-28 21:53]: we just have prepared a ntfsprogs package which supports resizing of NTFS partitions for Vista. This is rather new and untested and we therefore need some testers to test: * resizing of normal ntfs partitions Works here. Windows XP SP2 Prof. * resizing of Vista ntfs partitions Sorry, I have no Vista. :) Regards, Bernhard pgpixTVDdo6Y9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext2
* Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-23 21:33]: We modularized ext2 and forgot to mark this as supported. This is really more for the enterprise distributions but it should be set here as well, Can't we disable this supported/unsupported stuff for openSUSE at all, because openSUSE is completely unsupported (supported != tained)? At least the warning is annoying, IMO. Of course, not for 10.2, but 10.3? Regards, Bernhard pgp3zxKbIRxAd.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext2
* Bernhard Walle [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-23 22:29]: * Andreas Jaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-23 21:33]: We modularized ext2 and forgot to mark this as supported. This is really more for the enterprise distributions but it should be set here as well, Can't we disable this supported/unsupported stuff for openSUSE at all, because openSUSE is completely unsupported (supported != tained)? At least the warning is annoying, IMO. To clarify this after reading my mail again, of course, openSUSE is supported as we fix bugs and provide security updates, but I meant the customer has no claim for support as he has when he purchases SLES or SLED. And that's why I think this warning is more annoying than useful (and could be confused with the tainted flag). Regards, Bernhard pgpuKmQreEsQb.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] ext2
* Kenneth Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-24 00:46]: On Thu, 2006-11-23 at 23:05 +0100, Frank-Michael Fischer wrote: Andreas Jaeger schrieb: Frank-Michael Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: snip Bug 223513 filed. What does: module not supported by Novell versus module supported by Novell mean anyway? If Novell supports a module is Novell allowed to patch this module without maintainer's approval? Or is a maintainer still allowed to patch a module if its supported by Novell? Etc. The impact of such a message seems not clear to me. Please clarify: does the module ext2 belong to Novell or does it belong to linux? Do other distros show the same message module not supported by Novell or do they put their own distro name in the message. If I were the maintainer of the module I would be offended by this statement. It's a kernel patch of Novell/SUSE. I don't know if other distributions like RedHat have simlar patches. It's not in the mainline kernel.org kernel. And I really don't know why the maintainer of the module should have a problem with this message. It doesn't say the module is bad, it only says that we don't support this module, and, as Andreas Jaeger already said, it's mainly for enterprise distributions and not for openSUSE. As I learned now by reading the patch, you can set sources=2 at the kernel command line to turn the warning off. 0 means only allow supported modules and 1 (the default) means warn when loading unsupported modules. Regards, Bernhard pgp9SZLgGPCp9.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Recommendation w.r.t. NetworkManager
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-16 00:06]: The NetworkManager is new to me (I don't know if it was in 10.1, but I never installed that release) and I'm wondering what advantages or trade-offs it entails. Is it recommended or preferred for all 10.2 installations? Because I was unfamiliar, I just went with the Traditional method with ifup for my alpha and beta installations. NetworkManager is handy on a notebook with WLAN because you can easily choose the network you want to connect. It's also handy for VPNs. Regards, Bernhard pgp5JmP72waQQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] speed impression on firefox 2
Hello, * Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-11-02 08:23]: no, unfortunately I already had IPV6 disabled in Yast and I even disabled that one witing about:config (the option network.dns.disableIPv6 = true) But still, my FF2 seems to sleep in front of me whenever I request a webage. Seems it's time for me to start a WireShark on this. Let's hope I find something like this. What's your proxy setting? Disabled or Automatically? Try to disable it. Bernhard -- Computer der Zukunft werden nicht mehr als 1,5 Tonnen wiegen. -- Die Zeitschrift »Populäre Mechanik« (1949) pgpmKXgdzrhLS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Hardware Support: Marvell 88E8056
* Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 15:18]: this can be passed to the driver at runtime. How is that done? I haven't been able to find a comprehensive specification or list of kernel command-line options. Or do you mean it can be done even after the system is running? If the driver isn't specially prepared (i.e. module paremeters), it cannot. Even if it is, the driver needs to be loaded manually. IIRC, there is even a YaST dialog for this. Really? Do you know how or where this is done? I thought I'd been through the whole thing (at least everything relevant to networking), but I must have overlooked that one. I think there's no YaST dialog. It would be a driver specific issue. Bernhard -- Was wir wissen, ist ein Tropfen; was wir nicht wissen, ein Ozean. -- Isaac Newton pgptTxhBt3Ibe.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Hardware Support: Marvell 88E8056
Hello, * Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 16:33]: Bernhard Walle wrote: * Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 15:18]: this can be passed to the driver at runtime. How is that done? I haven't been able to find a comprehensive specification or list of kernel command-line options. Or do you mean it can be done even after the system is running? If the driver isn't specially prepared (i.e. module paremeters), it cannot. No. See new_id in sysfs once the driver is loaded. Which kerenl introduced this? On 2.6.16 it's not present. Bernhard -- Bei der Eroberung des Weltraums sind zwei Probleme zu lösen: die Schwerkraft und der Papierkrieg. Mit der Schwerkraft wären wir fertig geworden. -- Wernher von Braun pgptBBRUlWYeh.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Hardware Support: Marvell 88E8056
* Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 17:03]: Bernhard Walle wrote: Hello, * Carl-Daniel Hailfinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 16:33]: Bernhard Walle wrote: * Randall R Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-10-16 15:18]: this can be passed to the driver at runtime. How is that done? I haven't been able to find a comprehensive specification or list of kernel command-line options. Or do you mean it can be done even after the system is running? If the driver isn't specially prepared (i.e. module paremeters), it cannot. No. See new_id in sysfs once the driver is loaded. Which kerenl introduced this? On 2.6.16 it's not present. For your enlightenment: # find /sys/ -name new_id Oh, sorry, I only searched in the /sys/devices tree. The feature is in all kernels since at least 2.6.8 (SUSE Linux 9.2), maybe even before that. Thanks. Bernhard -- F: Wie viele Microsoft-Leute braucht man um eine Glühbirne zu wechseln? A: Vier. Der erste ersetzt die Birne, der zweite ändert die Fassung, so dass Netscape-Glübirnen nicht reinpassen. Der dritte baut eine Kurzschlussautomatik ein, die ausgelöst wird, wenn jemand eine Glühbirne von Sun einsetzen will. Und der vierte überzeugt das amerikanische Justizministerium, dass das alles fairer Wettbewerb ist. pgp94LQYgKNCR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Sylpheed(-claws)
Hello, * Dominique Leuenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-11 15:45]: Are there plans to include (after a long availability) sylpheed in a more recent version? Even now in Factory, there is still version 1.0.3 included, even though Sylpheed-claws is in Version 2.4.0 Version 2.4.0 has been released on July 31 2006 while 2.0.0 has been out since Jan 30 2006 Up-to-date packages of Sylpheed Claws are available at Packman. Maybe Marcus can move them to the BS? Bernhard -- Pasteurs Theorie von Bazillen ist lächerliche Fiktion. -- Pierre Pachet, Professor der Physiologie in Toulouse (1872) pgpFXylQLfwdk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Summary: Games on openSUSE 10.2
* Stefan Dirsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-10 12:58]: I would like to hear proposals by all of you for such a list. Just name your favorite games on the distribution. ksirtet (Tetris game of KDE) Bernhard -- Ich sag's ja, ...diese abolut warmduschende Meute von Vollquotern steigt. -- Clemens Wohld in suse-linux pgpmdtDcTMdDG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] CDRTools (CDDL / GPL)
* Juergen Weigert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-05 16:41]: On Sep 05, 06 15:35:43 +0200, Joerg Mayer wrote: On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 03:22:16PM +0200, Dominique Leuenberger wrote: will openSUSE replace the cdrtools (which are now under the GPL incompatible CDDL license) by the new cdrkit, which is a fork of the latest GPL'd cdrtools? There's at least one person on this planet who thinks that it isn't incompatible ;-) Avoiding the CDDL reduces some risks from our products. Do you mean CDDL in general or only linking together CDDL code with GPL code? Regards, Bernhard -- Der Mensch erfand die Atombombe, doch keine Maus der Welt würde eine Mausefalle konstruieren. -- Albert Einstein pgptYBEmVIZBW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] dist meeting 2006-08-31: Minutes
Hello, * Juan Erbes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-04 13:56]: /use complains Posix standar? POSIX? I think POSIX doesn't say anything about file hierarchy. It's the FHS (File Hierarchy Standard). Regards, Bernhard -- Anstiftung zur Beihilfe und Beihilfe zur Anstiftung oder zur Beihilfe ist Beihilfe zur Haupttat. (BGH NStZ 96, 562) pgpXvSiKUeD4E.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] openSUSE 10.2 Features and Roadmap
Hello, * Sonja Krause-Harder [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-30 17:14]: to .muttrc, restart mutt, then :source .mutt/muttrc plase :) Regards, Bernhard -- All the existing 2.0.x kernels are to buggy for 2.1.x to be the main goal. -- Alan Cox pgpo1lBYg8bM7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [opensuse-factory] Agenda for tomorrow's distribution meeting
Hello, * Boyd Lynn Gerber [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-30 20:22]: On Wed, 30 Aug 2006, Robert Schiele wrote: On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 10:20:12AM -0600, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote: Maybe I look at core wrong. I feel a core system should have vi and emacs as the default editors. I do not want to cause a vi/emacs debate. So they should be in core. A core system is not the system you want to have but a system that is a bare minimum that is needed to run the most basic system functionality. Removing any application from the core system does not mean you can no longer use it. Yes, I understand that. But a core function is to edit config files(CLI). And to do that an editor is required. Maybe a small Emacs clone could solve the problem? emacs is too big IMO for a core system. Regards, Bernhard -- Wenn einer im Wahlkampf zu schimpfen hat, dann sind das die Wähler und nicht die Politiker. -- Rainer Barzel pgpSdRtUVBIOY.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Future of the tetex package
Hello, ,[ http://www.tug.org/tetex/ ]- | I (Thomas Esser) have decided not to make new releases of teTeX any | more (May 2006). The information below might get out of date as time | goes by. I suggest anybody interested in teTeX to join the TeX Live | project. ` Will openSUSE switch to TeX Live? I would appreciate this. Maybe it's to late for 10.2, but for 10.3 there whould be an update to the current teTeX 3.0. Regards, Bernhard -- Faulheit ist die Angewohnheit, sich auszuruhen, bevor man müde ist. -- (unbekannt) pgpVvEGpZ1BfB.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] cdrtools licensing
Hello, just asking if the switch to CDDL has influence on the openSUSE cdrtools packages, too? http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.general/103241/focus=105160 http://www.pro-linux.de/news/2006/10155.html Regards, Bernhard pgpDL3oey4fEK.pgp Description: PGP signature
[opensuse-factory] Re: SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm SuSEconfig.wdm
Hello, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-21]: Am Montag, 21. August 2006 11:11 schrieb Christoph Thiel: to proceed with the SuSEconfig clearance initiative, let's take a look at SuSEconfig.gdm and SuSEconfig.wdm. Both of them are used to (re)generate config files, by reading some options from /etc/sysconfig/*. To get rid of those SuSEconfig scripts, their logic needs to be moved to /etc/init.d/xdm, to have it (re)generate the according config files prior to launching gdm or wdm. Comments, criticism, better ideas? Generating config files every time *dm is started is a bad idea IMHO. Reason: It is done _at every boot_ instead of sometimes after installing packages or alike. So you will speedup SuSEconfig, but slow down booting a bit :-( Is there an easy way to make *dm (or the initscript) read the sysconfig file directly (without reducing speed) and then starting X with some parameters instead a config file? This would be the best solution. (If there are only one or two setting left that would require to regenerate config files, you should consider dropping this sysconfig variable.) It could be done according to a time stamp, i.e. only if the sysconfig file changed. Checking a timestamp is fast, so I don't think that the slow down of the boot process is noticable by the user. Regards, Bernhard -- Pasteurs Theorie von Bazillen ist lächerliche Fiktion. -- Pierre Pachet, Professor der Physiologie in Toulouse (1872) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: SuSEconfig clearance: SuSEconfig.gdm SuSEconfig.wdm
Hello, Christoph Thiel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-21]: On Mon, 21 Aug 2006, Andreas Jaeger wrote: What are other Distros doing? Why don't they need anything alike? What is so much more special about the SuSE way that others don't need anything alike? The have similar problems - or force you to run scripts manually AFAIK. ... plus, some of the things that we do with SuSEconfig are really unique. (Just look at the fonts stuff, which is mostly relevant for Asian fonts. SuSEconfig is doing an awesome job there -- but it still can be optimized.) ACK! Fonts are _really_ great in SUSE and it was the main problem I had with Debian on the desktop and one of many reasons why I switched back. Regards, Bernhard -- If you really want pure ASCII, save it as text... or browse it with your favorite browser... -- Alexandre Maret [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Re: distribution meeting - introduction and agenda
Hello, Christian Boltz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-17]: My proposal: KMail, evolution and Thunderbird [1] should come with the local mailbox account /var/spool/mail/username preconfigured so that system mails will be received automatically. You forgot Seamonkey. :) Regards, Bernhard -- Der Computer ist die logische Weiterentwicklung des Menschen: Intelligenz ohne Moral. -- John Osborne - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
