[opensuse-factory] EVMS in 10.3
According to https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=224462 , EVMS installation was disabled in 10.2 and was to be reenabled in 10.3. I'd like to try it in RC1, but it is apparently still not enabled. Is there any way I can enable it myself? -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Friday 23 February 2007 5:07 pm, Christoph Thiel wrote: On Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 02:22:27PM -0400, James Oakley wrote: I've noticed that python-elementtree was removed in Factory. Will it be returning? No, most likely it won't. It's a very popular module that's used in a lot of Python projects, including osc. osc already has code in place to use Python 2.5's xml.etree. (We just need to drop the python-elementtree requirement for $dist = 10.2). All other packages that depended on python-elementtree should have been patched to use xml.etree. If there are still hidden problems with this, let me know! Is there any functionally that existed in python-elementtree, which is not part of xml.etree that you relied on? (I only know of SimpleXMLWriter, which was only used by repoview and therefore is now being shipped with repoview.) A list of differences can be found at http://codespeak.net/lxml/compatibility.html I have no problem porting my code, but other people may have trouble. Why not make ElementTree raise a DeprecationWarning for a short period to give people a chance to catch up? -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Monday 26 February 2007 11:12 am, Christoph Thiel wrote: A list of differences can be found at http://codespeak.net/lxml/compatibility.html Are you sure this is really the in-tree Python 2.5 etree.xml? It looks like a different thing to me -- at first glace. Ah, you're right. lxml.etree is an ElementTree implementation under lxml, and xml.etree is a subset of Fredrik Lundh's module. I have no problem porting my code, but other people may have trouble. Why not make ElementTree raise a DeprecationWarning for a short period to give people a chance to catch up? I guess we can add the package back, in case it really turns out to be a problem. But as of today I'm not aware of any. According to this, xml.etree is a subset of the full distribution: http://docs.python.org/whatsnew/modules.html#SECTION000142 For myself, this is not really a problem, since I can update my code and I only use core features. However, there are plenty of programs that use ElementTree directly that are not supplied in OpenSUSE. I know of a couple of programs that are using local forks of some of my code using ElementTree. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Monday 26 February 2007 4:21 pm, Christoph Thiel wrote: The way I see it, most projects actually ship their own in-tree copy of ElementTree (e.g. smart does). So, most of the stuff should be alright -- or needs to be ported to 2.5's xml.etree anyways. So, for now, I'd suggest we stick with the current sitation -- without python-elementtree. If it turns out, there is actual demand for it, we will have to reconsider. That's cool. I'll send patches downstream to the projects using my code. Thanks, -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
I've noticed that python-elementtree was removed in Factory. Will it be returning? It's a very popular module that's used in a lot of Python projects, including osc. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] python-elementtree in Factory
On Friday 23 February 2007 2:36 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I've noticed that python-elementtree was removed in Factory. Will it be returning? Probably not, as it's now part of the standard library. # rpm -ql python-xml | grep -i elementtree /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/ElementTree.py /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/ElementTree.pyc /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/ElementTree.pyo /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/cElementTree.py /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyc /usr/lib/python2.5/xml/etree/cElementTree.pyo The only problem is that it does not contain all of the functionality of the official release. It was renamed in this way so that they can coexist. It's kind of like python-xml vs. PyXML. Is it possible to fix these projects to use import xml.etree instead of import elementtree? You can do something like this: try: import xml.etree as elementtree except ImportError: try: import cElementTree as elementtree except ImportError: import elementtree -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2 (forw)
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 7:25 am, Stefan Dirsch wrote: On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:55:25AM +0200, Bernhard Walle wrote: Hello, * Joerg Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-09-06 11:10]: don't forget pysol. It seems it was dropped for 10.1 I think it's on the DVD. At least it's available in the internet installation sources. Indeed. This package still exists. The problem is that it's rather big for a Solitaire game (21 MB). kpat should be ok for the beginner. How about splitting music and cardsets into separate packages? My mom *loves* Pysol. :-) -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Games on openSUSE 10.2 (forw)
On Wednesday 06 September 2006 2:28 pm, Stefan Dirsch wrote: How about splitting music and cardsets into separate packages? Is Pysol really so much better than kpat? Yes. It's complete. In the Windows world, there are lots of different downloadable solitaire games that are popular. For the people who have *that one game* they absolutely must have, Pysol has them covered. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] distribution meeting - introduction and agenda
On Wednesday 16 August 2006 11:44 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote: * update messages general/conditional (e.g. bind) During update of packages they could notify users about changes via email and/or the SuSEplugger (until 10.0, this is not anymore in 10.1). Most of these are outdated and not really usefull anymore and should be removed. The question is how to handle situations like bind where config files get rewritten and the user should be informed if this fails. I believe that sending mail is still the appropriate action. As for the outdated messages, you can set environment variables (eg: SUSE_UPDATE_FROM=900, SUSE_UPDATE_TO=1020) so that %pre and %post scripts can determine whether a message should be sent. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[opensuse-factory] Rug and Factory
I've been trying to keep up to date with Factory, but every time I try an update, it fails for some reason or another. It's usually Failed to parse XML metadata: Can't add repository at ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source: Cannot create the installation source So after many weeks, I finally have factory active in rug, but now rug thinks I'm up to date: maus:~ # rug up No updates are available. The problem is that I'm not up to date: maus:~ # rpm -q bash bash-3.1-27 maus:~ # rug info bash Catalog: ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source Name: bash Version: 3.1-29 Arch: i586 Installed: No Status: up-to-date Why would rug think it's up-to-date when it clearly isn't? Here's my rug sl/ca: maus:~ # rug sl # | Status | Type | Name| URI --++--+-+--- 1 | Active | ZYPP | factory | ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/distribut... 2 | Active | YUM | funktronics | http://software.opensuse.org/download/home:... 3 | Active | YUM | aj-zen | ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/suse/people/aj/... 4 | Active | YUM | os-tools| http://software.opensuse.org/download/openS... 5 | Active | ZYPP | extra | ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/install/10.2/... maus:~ # rug ca Sub'd? | Name| Service ---+-+ Yes| funktronics | funktronics Yes| factory | factory Yes| aj-zen | aj-zen Yes| os-tools| os-tools | extra | extra -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Packagage Groupings - From Selections in 10.1 to Patterns in 10.2
On Wednesday 12 July 2006 9:41 am, Klaus Kaempf wrote: * Glenn Holmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Jul 12. 2006 12:54]: On Wednesday 12 July 2006 04:18, Andreas Jaeger wrote: * Patterns can be grouped into roles, like Development or Desktop. * Patterns can require other patterns Will there be a way to have alternate choices, e.g. if you select Database Server you can choose between MySQL and Postgres, or either if you select Java Development you can choose between NetBeans and Eclipse? Yes, this could be done. However, depending on whom you ask, people will love or hate such questions. Actually, I think this can be used to take some of the drudgery out of the package selections. I end up going through all of groups to make sure that I get all of the packages I need, but if a pattern can select packages based on other selected patterns, I could spend far less time on it. If I select Database/PostgreSQL alone, it will install the server and client, but if I also have Development/C and C++ and Development/Python selected, postgresql-devel and postgresql-python will also be installed. Similarly, if I select Desktop Environments/KDE it will install a basic KDE system, but if I also have Hardware/TV Capture it will also install kwintv. You could also use this to select tasks independently of the desktop environment. If you select Productivity/Chat and you have KDE and GNOME selected, you would get Konversation and XChat, but if you just have KDE, you would just get Konversation. I think that could be very powerful. -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [opensuse-factory] Test updates for SUSE Linux 10.1
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 9:22 am, Andreas Jaeger wrote: I've published two repositories for SUSE Linux 10.1: * An updated packagemanagement stack * New kernel 2.6.16.21 The zen update worked perfectly. However, the kernel update did not:: xen:~ # rug up aj-kernel Resolving Dependencies... ERROR: Dependency resolution failed: Unresolved dependencies: Establishing novfs-kmp-default-1.2.0_2.6.16.13_4-10.x86_64 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-DVD9-x86-x86_64-10.1-0-20060707-164613] Installing novfs-kmp-default-1.2.0_2.6.16.13_4-10.x86_64 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-DVD9-x86-x86_64-10.1-0-20060707-164613] Establishing atom:novfs-kmp-default-1.2.0_2.6.16.21_0.6-9.2.x86_64[aj-kernel] kernel-default-2.6.16.13-4.x86_64 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-DVD9-x86-x86_64-10.1-0-20060707-164613] provides kernel(kernel) == f6bd6270900c24b7, but another version of that package is already installed. There are no installable providers of kernel(kernel) == f6bd6270900c24b7 for novfs-kmp-default-1.2.0_2.6.16.13_4-10.x86_64 [SUSE-Linux-10.1-DVD9-x86-x86_64-10.1-0-20060707-164613] xen:~ # rpm -q kernel-default kernel-default-2.6.16.20-2 xen:~ # rpm -e novfs-kmp-default error: package novfs-kmp-default is not installed If novfs-kmp-default is not installed, why is it considered in the dependency resolution? -- James Oakley [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
