Re: [opensuse-factory] Making Basic Utilities work under normal user

2007-05-29 Thread Jonathan Arsenault
On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 09:08 +0200, Ludwig Nussel wrote:
 Jonathan Arsenault wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-05-26 at 02:35 +0300, Alexey Eremenko wrote:
   Anyways, I'm not satisfied. I want to have access to my ifconfig from
   normal user.
  
  Yes, lets change the UNIX way for the unsatisfied kid ...
  
  Snip from the FHS.
  
  /sbin : System binaries
  Purpose
  Utilities used for system administration (and other root-only commands)
  are stored in /sbin, /usr/sbin, and /usr/local/sbin.
  
  http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SBINSYSTEMBINARIES
 
 So what? That doesn't tell anything about whether it makes sense to have sbin
 in $PATH.

Yes logic does, if those are root-only command they do not belong into a
normal user path.

  I'd vote for appending sbin to regular users' $PATH by default. There
 are many tools in sbin that can be called as user to display at least some
 status information (or even just the help text). The clueless don't use the
 shell anyways and therefore don't care.

Many tool usable by user in there, like what ? ifconfig and iwlist are
the exception and not the rule, ip that a user should use instead of
deprecated ifconfig is symlinked to /bin already.

Look at the 270'or so binary in /sbin and the 330'or so in /usr/sbin
(/opt/gnome/sbin and /opt/kde3/sbin even) and tell me that they belong
into a user path, if you think about answering yes to that then explain
to me why they needed to be separated in the first place from normal
bin. Lets just stuff hem all in a giant directory and be done with
it ...

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-Zombie Coder.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] Minutes from 2007-03-23 dist meeting

2007-03-23 Thread Jonathan Arsenault
On Fri, 2007-03-23 at 17:21 +0100, jdd wrote:
 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Idea: Snapshotting at gdm/kdm time: Write a snapshot and resume at
the next boot back to this version.  This is different from suspend
to disk.
 
 However, in this precise case, may be we could take a snapshot
 (just an image of the desktop - is that the snpshot you speak about there up?)
 of the screen that will be restored?? (not sure I should like it :-)
 
 jdd

Now am not sure if i want to laugh or cry after such a comment ...

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