Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Claes Bäckström

On 11/15/06, Andreas Jaeger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Bad news, so only one player from all available on linux will play mp3 :(

Realplayer will as well.  I'm not happy about this either - and I'm
totally unhappy about the current software patent mess,



What about Fluendo's gstreamer mp3 decoder?

http://www.fluendo.com/resources/fluendo_mp3.php

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Jigish Gohil wrote:
> On 11/15/06, Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Bad news, so only one player from all available on linux will play mp3 :(
>>
>> I am not going to install gnome stuff in order to play my mp3. well i
>> converted all my mp3 to ogg anyway :D
> 
> I am on 10.2 beta 2 and installed w32codecs and packman's libxine
> packages for 10.1 on it. Amarok plays mp3 and xine plays everything.

Right, and you can also install my amarok RPMs as they include all the
features (mysql+postgresql collection backends, MP4 tag support through
libmp4v2):
http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/rpm/packages/Sound/amarok/

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Bad news, so only one player from all available on linux will play mp3 :( 

Realplayer will as well.  I'm not happy about this either - and I'm
totally unhappy about the current software patent mess,

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Jigish Gohil

On 11/15/06, Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Bad news, so only one player from all available on linux will play mp3 :(

I am not going to install gnome stuff in order to play my mp3. well i
converted all my mp3 to ogg anyway :D


I am on 10.2 beta 2 and installed w32codecs and packman's libxine
packages for 10.1 on it. Amarok plays mp3 and xine plays everything.

Cheers

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Pavel Nemec
Dne Wednesday 15 November 2006 11:11 Andreas Jaeger napsal(a):
> Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Dne Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:18 Andreas Jaeger napsal(a):
> >> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> > Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only
> >> > helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.
> >>
> >> Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
> >> amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
> >> packages like Helix Banshee,
> >>
> >> Andreas
> >
> > I am sorry but i am little confused.
> > Do we still ship amarok?
>
> Yes, we do.
>
> > Do we still ship amarok with mp3 support (trough helix)?
>
> No, we do not.
>
> Andreas

Bad news, so only one player from all available on linux will play mp3 :( 

I am not going to install gnome stuff in order to play my mp3. well i 
converted all my mp3 to ogg anyway :D
Pavel

All that remain to us is madNESS ;)

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Pavel Nemec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Dne Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:18 Andreas Jaeger napsal(a):
>> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> > Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only
>> > helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.
>>
>> Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
>> amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
>> packages like Helix Banshee,
>>
>> Andreas
>
> I am sorry but i am little confused.
> Do we still ship amarok?

Yes, we do.

> Do we still ship amarok with mp3 support (trough helix)?

No, we do not.

Andreas
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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Tuesday 14 November 2006 20:59 schrieb Andreas Hanke:
> Martin Schlander schrieb:
> > Can as in "Real will only allow.." or as in "technical necessity"?
>
> Look at banshee vs. helix-banshee and you'll see the reason.
>
> Without knowing the exact background information, I guess that SUSE
> would have been forced to rename Amarok to Helix Amarok, add a Helix
> EULA on startup and add Helix branding.

No, amarok would need to belong to Real to make this working ...
(please, do not ask for details, I can not answer them :/ )

bye
adrian

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Wednesday 15 November 2006 09:45 schrieb Pavel Nemec:
> Dne Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:18 Andreas Jaeger napsal(a):
> > Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only
> > > helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.
> >
> > Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
> > amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
> > packages like Helix Banshee,
> >
> > Andreas
>
> I am sorry but i am little confused.
> Do we still ship amarok?

yes

> Do we still ship amarok with mp3 support (trough helix)?

no

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-15 Thread Pavel Nemec
Dne Tuesday 14 November 2006 16:18 Andreas Jaeger napsal(a):
> Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only
> > helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.
>
> Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
> amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
> packages like Helix Banshee,
>
> Andreas

I am sorry but i am little confused.
Do we still ship amarok?
Do we still ship amarok with mp3 support (trough helix)?

Pavel
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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-14 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Andreas Hanke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Martin Schlander schrieb:
>> Can as in "Real will only allow.." or as in "technical necessity"?
>
> Look at banshee vs. helix-banshee and you'll see the reason.
>
> Without knowing the exact background information, I guess that SUSE
> would have been forced to rename Amarok to Helix Amarok, add a Helix
> EULA on startup and add Helix branding.

And we could not do so since we do not own the Amarok copyright - but
did own the banshee copyright...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-14 Thread Andreas Hanke
Martin Schlander schrieb:
> Can as in "Real will only allow.." or as in "technical necessity"?

Look at banshee vs. helix-banshee and you'll see the reason.

Without knowing the exact background information, I guess that SUSE
would have been forced to rename Amarok to Helix Amarok, add a Helix
EULA on startup and add Helix branding.

The changelog of the amarok package cleary states that amarok-helix has
been disabled on purpose. Certainly not in order to annoy the users.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-14 Thread Martin Schlander
Tirsdag 14 november 2006 16:18 skrev Andreas Jaeger:
> Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
> amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
> packages like Helix Banshee,

Can as in "Real will only allow.." or as in "technical necessity"?

Martin
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Re: [opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-14 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Marcel Hilzinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only 
> helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.

Yes, we needed to reorganise our complete packaging for banshee and
amarok. We can only use the real codecs from Real - or Helix -
packages like Helix Banshee,

Andreas
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[opensuse-factory] amarok-helix

2006-11-14 Thread Marcel Hilzinger
Has it been dropped totally? Under inst-source-nonoss there are only 
helix-banshee packages, but no amarok.

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