Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-12 Thread Lukas Ocilka
Andras Mantia wrote:
 Are or your systems relatively slow?  I can reproduce the problem, but 
 only if I hold the keys pushed for a longer time (SUSE 10.1, but self 
 compiled KDE).

Ups, I can reproduce it on my 10.1.
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+
It doesn't seem to be so slow.

Additionally, this can't be KDE bug because I use a WindowMaker.

Lukas



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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-09 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/09 00:45 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed:

  Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 22:09, schreef Felix Miata:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

  It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same
  problem. 100% failure.

  I once heard a story from my boss and he told me that one of our emplyees 
  always got an error. It was very weird and nobody understood what was going 
  wrong.

  Untill..my boos saw that every time the employee entered data he checkd 
  it 
  from clode to his screen and hit with his arm (?) a button. That causes 
  clicking OK to give an error.

  Maybe you should asking someone to do exacly the same at you're PC. 
  Miracles 
  can happen...

Did you ever read the bug? Chance between nano and zero. This dates back
about 9 months, to my first SUSE 10.0 install. It applies to:

1-SUSE 10.0 final, SUSE 10.1 Factory, SUSE 10.1 final, SUSE 10.2 Factory
2-4 entirely different machines
3-4 different keyboard brands
4-all systems in distinctly different physical locations

6 concurrent other Linux distro installations on multiboot on the exact
same machines never exhibit the problem.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-09 Thread Andras Mantia
Are or your systems relatively slow?  I can reproduce the problem, but 
only if I hold the keys pushed for a longer time (SUSE 10.1, but self 
compiled KDE).
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/05 18:33 (GMT-0700) Andreas apparently typed:

 El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:29, Felix Miata escribió:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

 sorry if I didn't make myself clear: With a weird bug like this I 
 think it's best to try and install the system not as always, but 
 instead just chose the minimal install for say a kde system, with no 
 tweaking or additional packages, start it up, create some dummy 
 accounts and see if you still have the problem with the F7 key.

 I tried to re-created your bug with three different keyboards, two 
 different layouts and two different connections: my old  german 
 keyboard with ps2 connector and two us-layout keyboards with usb and 
 ps2 connectors, and they all behave as expected. No F7 anomaly.

It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same problem. 
100% failure.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 13:09, Felix Miata escribió:

 It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same
 problem. 100% failure.

Well well, it seems to me that this an issue that can't be resolved 
without having physical access to your pc(s). Maybe the geek squad[1] 
can help?

[1} http://www.geeksquad.com

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread J Sloan


Andreas wrote:
 El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 13:09, Felix Miata escribió:
 
 It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same
 problem. 100% failure.
 
 Well well, it seems to me that this an issue that can't be resolved 
 without having physical access to your pc(s). Maybe the geek squad[1] 
 can help?


umm.. unfortunately geek squad is *totally* clueless about anything
other than ms winbloze...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Azerion
Op vrijdag 8 september 2006 22:09, schreef Felix Miata:
 On 06/09/05 18:33 (GMT-0700) Andreas apparently typed:
  El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:29, Felix Miata escribió:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443
 
  sorry if I didn't make myself clear: With a weird bug like this I
  think it's best to try and install the system not as always, but
  instead just chose the minimal install for say a kde system, with no
  tweaking or additional packages, start it up, create some dummy
  accounts and see if you still have the problem with the F7 key.
 
  I tried to re-created your bug with three different keyboards, two
  different layouts and two different connections: my old  german
  keyboard with ps2 connector and two us-layout keyboards with usb and
  ps2 connectors, and they all behave as expected. No F7 anomaly.

 It was tough, but I finally got it to install on a 4th machine. Same
 problem. 100% failure.

I once heard a story from my boss and he told me that one of our emplyees 
always got an error. It was very weird and nobody understood what was going 
wrong.

Untill..my boos saw that every time the employee entered data he checkd it 
from clode to his screen and hit with his arm (?) a button. That causes 
clicking OK to give an error.

Maybe you should asking someone to do exacly the same at you're PC. Miracles 
can happen...

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-08 Thread Andreas
El Viernes, 8 de Septiembre de 2006 15:16, J Sloan escribió:
 umm.. unfortunately geek squad is *totally* clueless about anything
 other than ms winbloze...

Not really geek-ish me thinks :))

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Azerion
Op dinsdag 5 september 2006 07:10, schreef Adrian Schröter:
 Am Monday 04 September 2006 21:38 schrieb Felix Miata:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443
 
  The assignee claims he cannot reproduce this, but I can't NOT reproduce
  this highly annoying bug on every system I've installed 10.0 or higher
  on, systems that with other distros have no such problem. Can anyone else
  repro this? If so, please comment in the bug.

 I can't either.

 jfyi
 adrian

I can't either.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Azerion
Op maandag 4 september 2006 21:38, schreef Felix Miata:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

 The assignee claims he cannot reproduce this, but I can't NOT reproduce
 this highly annoying bug on every system I've installed 10.0 or higher on,
 systems that with other distros have no such problem. Can anyone else repro
 this? If so, please comment in the bug.

 TIA

Maybe you should clean your keyboard or the keyboard connector from your 
motherboard. I thought KDE had problems with clicks until I discovered tgat 
my mouse was slightly damaged. A new mouse changed everything.

Check what is the same on all those configuration you tried this on.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/05 10:01 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed:

 Op maandag 4 september 2006 21:38, schreef Felix Miata:

 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

 The assignee claims he cannot reproduce this, but I can't NOT reproduce
 this highly annoying bug on every system I've installed 10.0 or higher on,
 systems that with other distros have no such problem. Can anyone else repro
 this? If so, please comment in the bug.

 Maybe you should clean your keyboard or the keyboard connector from your 
 motherboard. I thought KDE had problems with clicks until I discovered tgat 
 my mouse was slightly damaged. A new mouse changed everything.

 Check what is the same on all those configuration you tried this on.

Did you actually read the bug? The PIII 700 system I installed Factory on has 
or had:
SUSE 10.1 (had factory, has final, both from FTP)
SUSE 10.2 Factory from FTP
Mandriva 2007 Cooker
SUSE 9.0
Knoppix 4.0.2
Windoz XP
eComStation 1.14
eComStation 2.0b1

Only the first two in the above list have the problem.

2.4G Celeron machine two has or had the following:
SUSE 10.0 from DVD
Mandriva 2006
SUSE 9.0
Knoppix 4.0.2
eComStation 1.13

Only the first in the above list has the problem.

800M Celeron machine three has or had the following:
SUSE 10.0 (had factory, has final, both from FTP)
Knoppix 4.0.2
Windoz XP
eComStation 1.14

Only the first in the above list has the problem.

On several other machines I have no such problem using the following:
Corel 1.1
Debian Etch
Fedora Core 4
Knoppix 3.8.1
Knoppix 4.0.2
Kubuntu 5.10
Kubuntu 6.06
Mandrake 7.1
Mandriva 2005
RedHat 7.3
SUSE 8.1
SUSE 8.2
SUSE 9.2
SUSE 9.3
Xandros 3.02

On all above Linux distros I use KDE DM/Desktop exclusively, except for one 
machine that is actually Edubuntu 6.06 (which only my niece uses) with KDE 
added for DM and me to use for system chores.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Andreas
El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 03:59, Felix Miata escribió:
Did you ever try a plain vanilla installation to see if the bug is still 
there?

btw, I can not confirm the bug either. sorry.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Azerion
Op dinsdag 5 september 2006 12:59, schreef Felix Miata:
 On 06/09/05 10:01 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed:
  Op maandag 4 september 2006 21:38, schreef Felix Miata:
  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443
 
  The assignee claims he cannot reproduce this, but I can't NOT reproduce
  this highly annoying bug on every system I've installed 10.0 or higher
  on, systems that with other distros have no such problem. Can anyone
  else repro this? If so, please comment in the bug.
 
  Maybe you should clean your keyboard or the keyboard connector from your
  motherboard. I thought KDE had problems with clicks until I discovered
  tgat my mouse was slightly damaged. A new mouse changed everything.
 
  Check what is the same on all those configuration you tried this on.

 Did you actually read the bug?

I did.

I guess you are doomed as no other person on this list can repo the problem. I 
say: bug closed and let it stay that way. It takes time to examine the 
bugreport every time, and if only one person does have the problem that is 
not worth the time.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Felix Miata
On 06/09/06 00:05 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed:

  https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

 I guess you are doomed as no other person on this list can repo the problem. 
 I 
 say: bug closed and let it stay that way. It takes time to examine the 
 bugreport every time, and if only one person does have the problem that is 
 not worth the time.

I don't think we know that more than 6-7 people have even tried, much less how 
many systems have been tried. I repro on 3 systems, and a commenter in the bug 
he says I often see this too.

Upthread Andreas wrote try a plain vanilla installation, which, if I can 
figure out exactly what means, I think I will try on a 4th system soon.
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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Azerion
Op woensdag 6 september 2006 00:29, schreef Felix Miata:
 On 06/09/06 00:05 (GMT+0200) Azerion apparently typed:
   https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443
 
  I guess you are doomed as no other person on this list can repo the
  problem. I say: bug closed and let it stay that way. It takes time to
  examine the bugreport every time, and if only one person does have the
  problem that is not worth the time.

 I don't think we know that more than 6-7 people have even tried, much less
 how many systems have been tried. I repro on 3 systems, and a commenter in
 the bug he says I often see this too.

 Upthread Andreas wrote try a plain vanilla installation, which, if I can
 figure out exactly what means, I think I will try on a 4th system soon.

==
I often see this too, especially on my main desktop machine running SuSE 10.0
and a development one with 10.1. However I have several other machines with
9.3, 10.0 and 10.1 where I rarely see it. 

Clearly some hardware is more prone to the problem than others.

Does anyone know if it occurs with other recent distributions? Maybe KDE
version makes a difference?

HTH


Maybe you two should compare hardware and especially keyboards? Maybe you two 
have something in common that causes the problem.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-05 Thread Andreas
El Martes, 5 de Septiembre de 2006 15:29, Felix Miata escribió:

 Upthread Andreas wrote try a plain vanilla installation, which, if
 I can figure out exactly what means, I think I will try on a 4th
 system soon.

sorry if I didn't make myself clear: With a weird bug like this I 
think it's best to try and install the system not as always, but 
instead just chose the minimal install for say a kde system, with no 
tweaking or additional packages, start it up, create some dummy 
accounts and see if you still have the problem with the F7 key.

I tried to re-created your bug with three different keyboards, two 
different layouts and two different connections: my old  german 
keyboard with ps2 connector and two us-layout keyboards with usb and 
ps2 connectors, and they all behave as expected. No F7 anomaly.

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Re: [opensuse-factory] [Bug 141443] reentry to KDE from VC via Alt-F7 submits F7 to focused app

2006-09-04 Thread Adrian Schröter
Am Monday 04 September 2006 21:38 schrieb Felix Miata:
 https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141443

 The assignee claims he cannot reproduce this, but I can't NOT reproduce
 this highly annoying bug on every system I've installed 10.0 or higher on,
 systems that with other distros have no such problem. Can anyone else repro
 this? If so, please comment in the bug.

I can't either.

jfyi
adrian

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