Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Sun JVM 1.5

2006-09-15 Thread Pascal Bleser
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Sonja Krause-Harder wrote:
 On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 12:22:23AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
 Yeah, well, there's no substantial point in building 1.5 bytecode if the
 source code doesn't use features from JSE 5 (generics, annotations,
 autoboxing).
 
 Agreed.
  
 Fixing gcj/classpath so that they can deal with 1.5-compiled jars
 would mean at the very least adding generics, annotations and autoboxing
 bytecode support into gcj (the compiler), as well as kaffe, sablevm or
 cocoavm (the runtime(s)).
 
 I was under the impression that at least the gcc community is already
 working on that. Fixing gcj thus need not mean implementing the stuff
 myself, but also providing bugreports and testcases etc., which we
 wouldn't come up with if we just stay with the status quo. With free 
 projects there's at least a possibility for us to help.

Yes, totally, testing and providing bugs/reports is great help.

IMO the Build Service is a good platform for that, in order to provide
the latest builds of GCJ, GNU Classpath, ... for SUSE Linux, and
possibly for other distributions as well (maybe the current Fedora
maintainers would be interested in sharing the efforts).

As those projects are still evolving a lot, and make significant leaps
with each release, the distribution is not well suited as it is almost
immune to feature upgrades (of packages).

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Re: Sun JVM 1.5 (was: Dist Meeting 2006-09-14: Proposed Agenda)

2006-09-14 Thread Sonja Krause-Harder
On Fri, Sep 15, 2006 at 12:22:23AM +0200, Pascal Bleser wrote:
 Yeah, well, there's no substantial point in building 1.5 bytecode if the
 source code doesn't use features from JSE 5 (generics, annotations,
 autoboxing).

Agreed.
 
 Fixing gcj/classpath so that they can deal with 1.5-compiled jars
 would mean at the very least adding generics, annotations and autoboxing
 bytecode support into gcj (the compiler), as well as kaffe, sablevm or
 cocoavm (the runtime(s)).

I was under the impression that at least the gcc community is already
working on that. Fixing gcj thus need not mean implementing the stuff
myself, but also providing bugreports and testcases etc., which we
wouldn't come up with if we just stay with the status quo. With free 
projects there's at least a possibility for us to help.

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Sonja Krause-Harder ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Research  Development   SUSE Linux Products GmbH

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