Re: [opensuse-marketing] openSUSE vs. Fedora
Le 31/01/2011 03:57, Jos Poortvliet a écrit : Check the attached flyer for a few things unique to openSUSE. that said this (cool) flyer speaks of nearly anything but the distribution first advantage of openSUSE is ease of install, use and configuration jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
On 01/30/2011 04:56 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:35 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote: On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote: That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code. GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all. Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index. Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources! ;-) Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive. COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio). My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??) Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material! cheers Helen Dear Helen Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a) Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files. Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things. What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too. I'm describing now why we must use it. In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ... My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ... you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool. Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools. -- Bruno Friedmann Sorry, But I have to agree with Jos and Helen more than with you on this one. In fact, we are just all agree ! The main goal is to ensure that any artwork we have is readily accessible and usable. Other project marketing teams have lowered the bar on being able to access material, why haven't we yet? I've brought this up in the past and hit a wall and am glad that Jos and Helen are carrying the ball forward on raising this issue. I agree with that. How many times have we been able to go to some other website or project and simply click and save an image that we want to put on, for example, our blog? And in that instant click process, that project gets automatic free promotion from us. Yet, we cannot do the same for our own project. And then we wonder why we aren't doing a better job of promoting openSUSE. There are definitely technical advantages for artists to use GIT for works in progress or revisions. But final artwork needs to be up on the web where anyone can grab it. An that's the key point : artist or content provider need good tools Git is one for that (no restriction on upload, branches, revisions etc) And marketing people, or all consumers, need a browse, see/preview, clic download interface I can't imagine another way to do that. Can be just a directory browsing, or even better a wiki page automagically generated. Each git repo folder = one category ( Presentations, Logos, How-To etc ... ) How to achieve that :
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
I think everyone has got a point over here, Bruno is right and again Helen, Jos and Bryen are right too. Personally, I am in favour of git but not at Gitorious but at Github because github provides an api by which we can easily generate the list of all the repos and fulfill our requirements easily. This will be something like an rss feed. Any thoughts people Regards Manu On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:51 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote: On 01/30/2011 04:56 PM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote: On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 16:35 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote: On 01/30/2011 12:35 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote: That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code. GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all. Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index. Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources! ;-) Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive. COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio). My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??) Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material! cheers Helen Dear Helen Jos ... Sure we should have the sources online, but wiki is just a pain in A (yes a big a) Tools source control are really cool things. as we can track quickly what change or not, and what was the modification. With svg is more easy, you can just get the patch about it. Mainly asking hostmaster to allow the svg type and not text/plain for svg files. Sure the web base browsing interface should be adjusted to perhaps offer a preview. but once you have it locally why bothering about the web things. What would be nice is to have more people able to commit to the git artwork repo, and try to find a way to have one for marketing too. I'm describing now why we must use it. In April or May, if the deal ends with Attachmate, lot's of stuff will need to be revised. Without an scm, we would just end in an horrible mess about what to change, who change it, when it was change last time. All that kind of queries can be run on scm, none of them would be available in wiki. Having a kind of gallery, updated automagically, git clone on a website and it's done ... My main issue with the wiki, is if someone for good or bad reason destroy a page, or change the wiki yet another time we will loose all of what's inside it. Who can actually said, that all of the stuff present in the old-en.o.o was now in en.o.o etc etc ... you will certainly understand, that's I'm not a big fan about the wiki, but yes I also want all marketing material somewhere online. In a manageable way that would be cool. Do we need help from a master of Git : certainly. So he can help each of us which are non-dev's to understand how to work with this great tools. -- Bruno Friedmann Sorry, But I have to agree with Jos and Helen more than with you on this one. In fact, we are just all agree ! The main goal is to ensure that any artwork we have is readily accessible and usable. Other project marketing teams have lowered the bar on being able to access material, why haven't we yet? I've brought this up in the past and hit a wall and am glad that Jos and Helen are carrying the ball forward on raising this issue. I agree with that. How many times have we been able to go to some other website or project and simply click and save an image that we want to put on, for example, our blog? And in that instant click process, that project gets automatic free promotion from us. Yet, we cannot do the same for our own project. And then we wonder why we aren't doing a better job of promoting openSUSE. There are definitely technical advantages for artists to use GIT for works in
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
On 30.01.2011, at 00:35, Jos Poortvliet wrote: On 2011-01-28 Helen wrote: That's because it's just about impossible to find a good one in the format I want. I tried looking on GIT and could only find a SVG which downloaded as a pile of code. GIT is HORRIBLE to find things on - I hate having to click through fifty different folders to find things, and there's hardly any jpgs or pngs, and I have to click before I can see what it looks like. It just makes no sense at all. Can we have the final artwork put on the WIKI and made easy to find please? One page with a graphical index. Fully agreed. I know Robert has a lot of stuff on his computer and I think I want to have it in form of a big tar.bz2 and take it with me to the marketing meeting. There we can sort through it and put it all online. ANYTHING we create, for whatever purpose, should go on the wiki! Including sources! ;-) I agree, that we need a solution for this. We also had a discussion about this on the openSUSE Conference ... something like Designhub would be cool. Finally tools like Git are a large barrier for pure artworker, we need something like a web-UI for Git ... a simple way to share, contribute and browse (search, *) the artwork. How ever, I try to sort-out the stuff I have made and push the sources to the artwork git an png/jpgs in the wiki. But this will take a while. @Jos/Helen: you need something special? Cheers, Robert Or else gather together some and email it to the list so I can have it ready to go on my hard drive. COPYRIGHTS - dister logo is from here http://susestudio.com/artwork/ and I think is ok to use in this context as far as I can tell (ie, talking about Studio). My assumption with marketing materials is that they essentially belong to openSUSE. I havent' followed the entirety of the current copyright discussion. Any writing I do for other markets (such as magazine articles) I'll clearly mark with a copyright notice So it's (cc) or (c)openSUSE as far as I'm concerned. (Jos??) Public domain as far as I am concerned, as free as possible at least :D CC by SA or so would probably do. We want ppl to USE this material! cheers Helen --- Robert Lihm, Webdesigner - openSUSE Boosters Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, D-90409 Nuernberg Tel: +49-911-74053-0 - rl...@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) SUSE - a Novell business -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
[opensuse-marketing] ot dvd 11.4 trbls
I dl the 11.4 m6 dvd 64 bit to local and when I went to bun on a 4.7 nero (on windows box) days I n33d 4.8 (4.33 on dvd 4.54 needed ) any suggestions ?? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] ot dvd 11.4 trbls
Le 31/01/2011 19:23, y smith a écrit : I dl the 11.4 m6 dvd 64 bit to local and when I went to bun on a 4.7 nero (on windows box) days I n33d 4.8 (4.33 on dvd 4.54 needed ) any suggestions ?? known :-( it's a bug. Use virtualbox, double layer dvd, BD or USB disks :-( jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
[opensuse-marketing] SCALE SoCal Linux Expo --- Howdy - What's up? Anything I can do?
Am willing to spend some time doing whatever in between the time I'm doing whatever at the conference. You can get a idea of my OpenSuSE background, my username in the OpenSuSE Forums is tsu2. Also, any other unpublished SuSE get-togethers? Tony -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
@Jos/Helen: you need something special? Cheers, Robert Most urgent need for team right now, is a collection of correct, current logos, the official openSUSE one plus any logos for related features, eg OBS, KIWI, Bretzn/AppInstaller, Studio, Desktops, assorted software, plus any promotional images such as Geeko characters, in a high resolution and choice of formats ( jpeg, png, svg) ready to use in the promotional material we are creating. Also a note with color codes for official colors and current themes. (additionally background wallpapers and screenshots may be useful.) This would be very helpful in the lead up to scale and 11.4 release. The idea of the GitHub with nice front end and other ideas suggested for ongoing media hub sound very promising. I've noticed we sometimes have input from casual contributors who aren't part of the regular team but create terrific stuff occasionally. Helen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
Re: [opensuse-marketing] Fwd: flyer
Helen and other fellows Based on Helen and Jos design of flyer, I created other 3 options as a way to contribute with some cents. I would like to remember that this work is for design purpose only with very low quality for print, it is 100 dpi, also have some margins and alignment to be fix, but is enough to be analized and commented by anyone who whishes. You can see files here http://lh5.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTl4eWH0I/EOE/KNL7LeYhpDI/s720/FlyerCR.jpg http://lh3.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdTt3gwZLI/EOI/Zpkfk1OvdrY/s720/FlyerCR02small.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_VHXcnKwu3gs/TUdT6E7yVNI/EOM/AB0RwQSls50/s720/FlyerCR03small.jpg Em Ter, 2011-02-01 às 08:54 +1100, Helen escreveu: @Jos/Helen: you need something special? Cheers, Robert Most urgent need for team right now, is a collection of correct, current logos, the official openSUSE one plus any logos for related features, eg OBS, KIWI, Bretzn/AppInstaller, Studio, Desktops, assorted software, plus any promotional images such as Geeko characters, in a high resolution and choice of formats ( jpeg, png, svg) ready to use in the promotional material we are creating. Also a note with color codes for official colors and current themes. (additionally background wallpapers and screenshots may be useful.) This would be very helpful in the lead up to scale and 11.4 release. The idea of the GitHub with nice front end and other ideas suggested for ongoing media hub sound very promising. I've noticed we sometimes have input from casual contributors who aren't part of the regular team but create terrific stuff occasionally. Helen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+unsubscr...@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-marketing+h...@opensuse.org
