Re: [Openvpn-users] VPN without encryption and auth

2017-08-02 Thread Gert Doering
Hi,

On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 02:37:00PM +0200, David Sommerseth wrote:
> To me, it sounds more like you just need an IPIP tunnel.  Something
> which shouldn't be too hard to achieve with iproute2, which would then
> give the least overhead.

"ipip tunnel with user authentication, so the client side IP can vary
without having to reconfigure anything" is, basically, what OpenVPN
with --encryption none will give you...

So I can see the use case :-) - people used to do that with PPTP or
L2TP, and especially the latter is fairly complicated to set up under
Linux.

gert
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Re: [Openvpn-users] VPN without encryption and auth

2017-08-02 Thread J.Witvliet
Disabling that all?
You might  as wel simply use GRE,  ip4-in-ip4
See LARTC

From: Abi Askushi [mailto:rightkickt...@gmail.com]
Sent: woensdag 2 augustus 2017 13:42
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Subject: [Openvpn-users] VPN without encryption and auth

Hi All,
I am considering to setup OpenVPN without encryption and packet authorization, 
as a way to lower the VPN overhead, by using the following directives:
cipher none
auth none
Apart from having the tunneled traffic on the clear, since now it will not be 
encrypted, what other implications are there for going like this?

My main concern for this setup is not the encryption, but low overhead.
FYI, when testing standard VPN setup, with AES-128-CBC cipher and auth enabled, 
+ lzo compression, I was receiving 14 - 18% VPN overhead on top the total udp 
traffic observed on WAN. When disabling encryption and auth, I received 6% 
overhead.
Thanx in advance for your feedback.


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Re: [Openvpn-users] VPN without encryption and auth

2017-08-02 Thread David Sommerseth
On 02/08/17 13:41, Abi Askushi wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am considering to setup OpenVPN without encryption and packet
> authorization, as a way to lower the VPN overhead, by using the
> following directives:
> 
> cipher none
> auth none
> 
> Apart from having the tunneled traffic on the clear, since now it will
> not be encrypted, what other implications are there for going like this?
> 
> My main concern for this setup is not the encryption, but low overhead.
> 
> FYI, when testing standard VPN setup, with AES-128-CBC cipher and auth
> enabled, + lzo compression, I was receiving 14 - 18% VPN overhead on top
> the total udp traffic observed on WAN. When disabling encryption and
> auth, I received 6% overhead.
> 
> Thanx in advance for your feedback.

Configuring OpenVPN without encryption is a peculiar use case I've
seldom quite understood, except if you're doing some research on various
crypto or network related scenarios.  For production need, there are far
better solutions.   It's almost like having an Aston Martin DB9 and not
wanting to turn on the engine because you want to let it roll downhill
on the road by itself.  Probably a fun experience, but is it useful?

To me, it sounds more like you just need an IPIP tunnel.  Something
which shouldn't be too hard to achieve with iproute2, which would then
give the least overhead.


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[Openvpn-users] VPN without encryption and auth

2017-08-02 Thread Abi Askushi
Hi All,

I am considering to setup OpenVPN without encryption and packet
authorization, as a way to lower the VPN overhead, by using the following
directives:

cipher none
auth none

Apart from having the tunneled traffic on the clear, since now it will not
be encrypted, what other implications are there for going like this?

My main concern for this setup is not the encryption, but low overhead.

FYI, when testing standard VPN setup, with AES-128-CBC cipher and auth
enabled, + lzo compression, I was receiving 14 - 18% VPN overhead on top
the total udp traffic observed on WAN. When disabling encryption and auth,
I received 6% overhead.

Thanx in advance for your feedback.
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