Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread Yaroslav Syrytsia
Hi,

It is a known issue, some descriptions you can find there - 
http://vonger.cn/?p=1778
I guess it is not depend on a driver or hw.

15.07.2015, 13:33, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com:
 Hi,
 Atheros hardware supports multiple wireless interfaces, and ath9k
 driver takes advantage of that.

 What is not clear to me is why if you have two interfaces, one in sta
 mode and other in ap mode then ap interface isn't available until sta
 interface is connected to upstream AP.

 Why? Is there any way to have multiple wifi intefaces and that they
 aren't linked together but that one can work independent of other?
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
I don't understad how that script even works! Here is the script from
that blog post - http://pastebin.com/ihNAfbcr

Why use wifi-iface[99] ? Who has 100 wifi interfaces? When I manually
run uci show wireless.@wifi-iface[99] I get uci: Entry not found
as expected.
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
 Because there is only one pysical hardware and the hardware can only be
 tuned to one channel. The STA interface needs to look for the channel
 the AP is on and as long as the channel is not determined we can not
 start an AP.

I think that all of us understand limitations of one physical hardware
interface. Still other wifi stack don't disable all interfaces if one
fails.

I would expect that if I set wifi to channel 8 (option channel '8')
that then both AP and STA wifi interfaces use that channel, and it is
know to both of them. If upstream AP for STA is not on channel 8 or
becomes out of range then AP interface still works.
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread Yaroslav Syrytsia
The script is a bit ugly ... but the main idea is correct :)

But i would prefer next behavior: if STA has lost the connection to upstream 
AP, then our AP must not fail and switch to the channel from our config file or 
to last used channel (aka STA channel) ...

Maybe someone from OpenWRT developers can create a patch for that ?

15.07.2015, 14:28, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com:
 I don't understad how that script even works! Here is the script from
 that blog post - http://pastebin.com/ihNAfbcr

 Why use wifi-iface[99] ? Who has 100 wifi interfaces? When I manually
 run uci show wireless.@wifi-iface[99] I get uci: Entry not found
 as expected.

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[OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Hi,
Atheros hardware supports multiple wireless interfaces, and ath9k
driver takes advantage of that.

What is not clear to me is why if you have two interfaces, one in sta
mode and other in ap mode then ap interface isn't available until sta
interface is connected to upstream AP.

Why? Is there any way to have multiple wifi intefaces and that they
aren't linked together but that one can work independent of other?
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On 15 July 2015 at 12:37, Yaroslav Syrytsia m...@ys.lc wrote:
 Hi,

 It is a known issue, some descriptions you can find there - 
 http://vonger.cn/?p=1778
 I guess it is not depend on a driver or hw.

Yaroslav thanks man you saved me lots of headache! :)

From reading blog post you linked this seams to be more a feature than
bug. Other vendors like Mikrotik for example made their wifi stack so
that virtual wifi interfaces act more like real interfaces and
aren't linked.

I actually consider this behaviour as a bug. Why not have 6 different
virtual wifi interfaces each separate from others? How do OpenWrt devs
look at this issue?
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] Why STA wifi interface shutsdown AP interface?

2015-07-15 Thread Bruno Randolf
On 07/15/2015 12:08 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 15 July 2015 at 12:37, Yaroslav Syrytsia m...@ys.lc wrote:
 Hi,

 It is a known issue, some descriptions you can find there - 
 http://vonger.cn/?p=1778
 I guess it is not depend on a driver or hw.
 
 Yaroslav thanks man you saved me lots of headache! :)
 
From reading blog post you linked this seams to be more a feature than
 bug. Other vendors like Mikrotik for example made their wifi stack so
 that virtual wifi interfaces act more like real interfaces and
 aren't linked.
 
 I actually consider this behaviour as a bug. Why not have 6 different
 virtual wifi interfaces each separate from others? 

Because there is only one pysical hardware and the hardware can only be
tuned to one channel. The STA interface needs to look for the channel
the AP is on and as long as the channel is not determined we can not
start an AP.

bruno
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