Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread Bastian Bittorf
* valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com [23.05.2014 11:22]:
 So 92Ah is much too big, but is 7Ah too small? Does anybody have experience
 with batteries and solar power?

i have and: it depends (TM)
look out for you _local_ Solar Radiation and Temperature.

here in Germany during wintertime we have no useable sun for up to 4
weeks at -30 celsius-degrees...

bye, bastian
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread heini66
might be helpfull
http://wiki.freifunk.net/Mobiler_UMTS-Router
sorry for german, but site is only german...

cheers
martin


2014-05-23 11:28 GMT+02:00 Bastian Bittorf bitt...@bluebottle.com:

 * valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com [23.05.2014
 11:22]:
  So 92Ah is much too big, but is 7Ah too small? Does anybody have
 experience
  with batteries and solar power?

 i have and: it depends (TM)
 look out for you _local_ Solar Radiation and Temperature.

 here in Germany during wintertime we have no useable sun for up to 4
 weeks at -30 celsius-degrees...

 bye, bastian
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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread Fernando Frediani
Can you specify the usage(in Watts) of these equipment you mentioned and 
voltage ?
A 50W solar panel looks Ok, but you need to calculate the usage in Amps 
so you can find out how long the battery of that capacity can run 
without sun and you need the Watts and Voltage for that.


Fernando


On 23/05/2014 09:58, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you calculate ideal battery for solar nodes? I know that it 
depends on how much routers there are planned. But for example let's 
use solar node that has one nanostation nanobridge for unplink and 
picostation for AP.


I guess that 50W solar panel should be enough, right? But how big 
should the battery be?


Is 7Ah enough?

At my company we use 92Ah batteries for powering ADSL DSLAMs, and are 
replacing then now with new ones. Using a too big battery is also not 
advised because then you need much bigger solar panels because lead 
battery also looses lots of power due it's internal resistance.


So 92Ah is much too big, but is 7Ah too small? Does anybody have 
experience with batteries and solar power?



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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread Fernando Frediani
 Well, without the Watts or Current consumed it's impossible to make 
any estimations. Just a rough guess based on other people's usage as you 
mentioned below.


Fernando

On 23/05/2014 12:47, heini66 wrote:
the wr741 is running with 5v dc. i talked to the user and he toled me, 
it is possible to opperate the mobile ap for 5-6h, belonging how much 
trafic is running on it. sorry, i can't tell somthing about the 
current.( don't own one to get a messurement ) but when he is able to 
work with 4 aa mignon for 5-6h, it can't be that much.



2014-05-23 12:40 GMT+02:00 Fernando Frediani fhfredi...@gmail.com 
mailto:fhfredi...@gmail.com:


Can you specify the usage(in Watts) of these equipment you
mentioned and voltage ?
A 50W solar panel looks Ok, but you need to calculate the usage in
Amps so you can find out how long the battery of that capacity can
run without sun and you need the Watts and Voltage for that.

Fernando



On 23/05/2014 09:58, valent.turko...@gmail.com
mailto:valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:

How do you calculate ideal battery for solar nodes? I know that
it depends on how much routers there are planned. But for example
let's use solar node that has one nanostation nanobridge for
unplink and picostation for AP.

I guess that 50W solar panel should be enough, right? But how big
should the battery be?

Is 7Ah enough?

At my company we use 92Ah batteries for powering ADSL DSLAMs, and
are replacing then now with new ones. Using a too big battery is
also not advised because then you need much bigger solar panels
because lead battery also looses lots of power due it's internal
resistance.

So 92Ah is much too big, but is 7Ah too small? Does anybody have
experience with batteries and solar power?


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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
Depending on the type of node usage would be 5, 10 and 15W for three
typical nodes. Hope this helps.

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Re: [OpenWrt-Devel] ideal battery for solar nodes?

2014-05-23 Thread cmsv
See if this helps:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=pttl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.wirelesspt.net%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D23%26t%3D730sandbox=1

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=autotl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fwirelesspt.net%2Fwiki%2FEnergia_Solar

On 05/23/2014 04:58 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote:
 How do you calculate ideal battery for solar nodes? I know that it
 depends on how much routers there are planned. But for example let's use
 solar node that has one nanostation nanobridge for unplink and
 picostation for AP.
 
 I guess that 50W solar panel should be enough, right? But how big should
 the battery be?
 
 Is 7Ah enough?
 
 At my company we use 92Ah batteries for powering ADSL DSLAMs, and are
 replacing then now with new ones. Using a too big battery is also not
 advised because then you need much bigger solar panels because lead
 battery also looses lots of power due it's internal resistance.
 
 So 92Ah is much too big, but is 7Ah too small? Does anybody have
 experience with batteries and solar power?
 
 
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