Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal
Hi Pasi, I like your idea. It makes more clear. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com From: Pasi Vaananen<mailto:opnfv.pasiv...@gmail.com> Date: 2016-08-05 23:51 To: 'Bob Monkman'<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>; 'Liu Yuan'<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com>; 'BIN'<mailto:bh5...@att.com>; 'Carella, Giuseppe'<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> CC: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal So, to make it clear, should we attempt to name the single upstream community/project specific projects based on their upstream name, like we have https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/OPNFV-OPEN-O (and to some extent “ONOS Framework” and “OpenContral Virtual Networking for NFV”) this could be e.g. OPNFV-OpenBaton ? Regards, Pasi From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Bob Monkman Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 11:00 AM To: Liu Yuan; BIN; Carella, Giuseppe Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Yuan, I can see your point. I think projects should avoid names that come to close to appearing to describe themselves as _the_ solution for some category of function, unless the project is an umbrella for multiple options. I am not judging that this was the intent with Orchestra, but one could argue such a name “grabs” the function for one option. I think we made a mistake with Fast Data Stacks, but no one else seemed to question it. It comprises a single vendor solution for a broad function area that has innumerable options. I think teams should be sent back to the drawing board for a new name, as was asked of Open-O team. One opinion, Bob Robert (Bob) Monkman Enterprise Segment Marketing Manager 150 Rose Orchard Way San Jose, Ca 95134 M: +1.510.676.5490 From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Liu Yuan Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 10:25 AM To: BIN; Carella, Giuseppe Cc: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi, I just recall the OPNFV OPEN-O project was named OPNFV-MANO at the beginning. And during the discussion, the team thought the scope were too broad, and needed focus or convergence. Then the project changed the name. About the name of the Orchestra, I think have the similar situation. The meaning of Orchestra also includes broad scopes. So, I am wondering why there is a difference between these two projects. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> From: liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> Date: 2016-08-02 18:23 To: Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> CC: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi Giuseppe, I just think your project needs a unique name to represent the Open Baton, instead of a general name. Anyway, we can see others' suggestions on this. :) Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> From: Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: 2016-08-02 18:00 To: Liu Yuan<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> CC: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi Yuan, I get your point, however we are not aware of any guidelines for project names, therefore we believe this is the most appropriate name for this project. If this is a common issue, we can change the name. Consider that this is only a proposal... We can discuss about it during the next conference call. Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) On 02 Aug 2016, at 11:44, Liu Yuan <liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi Giuseppe, I am confused about the name of the project. Your main objective is to integrate between Open Baton and OPNFV. There are many MANO / Orcheatrator open source projects, and there is a MANO group in the OPNFV. I don't think you could use the "Orchestra" to only appoint to the Open Baton, maybe named Open Baton or OPNFV-Open Baton are more better. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan li
Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal
Hi, I just recall the OPNFV OPEN-O project was named OPNFV-MANO at the beginning. And during the discussion, the team thought the scope were too broad, and needed focus or convergence. Then the project changed the name. About the name of the Orchestra, I think have the similar situation. The meaning of Orchestra also includes broad scopes. So, I am wondering why there is a difference between these two projects. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com From: liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> Date: 2016-08-02 18:23 To: Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> CC: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi Giuseppe, I just think your project needs a unique name to represent the Open Baton, instead of a general name. Anyway, we can see others' suggestions on this. :) Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com From: Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: 2016-08-02 18:00 To: Liu Yuan<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> CC: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi Yuan, I get your point, however we are not aware of any guidelines for project names, therefore we believe this is the most appropriate name for this project. If this is a common issue, we can change the name. Consider that this is only a proposal... We can discuss about it during the next conference call. Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) On 02 Aug 2016, at 11:44, Liu Yuan <liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com>> wrote: Hi Giuseppe, I am confused about the name of the project. Your main objective is to integrate between Open Baton and OPNFV. There are many MANO / Orcheatrator open source projects, and there is a MANO group in the OPNFV. I don't think you could use the "Orchestra" to only appoint to the Open Baton, maybe named Open Baton or OPNFV-Open Baton are more better. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com> From: Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> Date: 2016-08-02 05:08 To: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> CC: Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi all, please find on the wiki [1] a new project proposal, named Orchestra, having as main objective the integration between Open Baton and OPNFV. We’ll be available to present it during the next TSC call. Get in touch if you are interested in getting involved. [1] https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Orchestra Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) ___ opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss
Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal
Hi Dave, In the proposal, the project name is OPNFV OPEN-O Requirement for Integration. And the repository name is Opera. Regards, Yuan Liu Yuan liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com From: Dave Neary<mailto:dne...@redhat.com> Date: 2016-08-04 04:43 To: Liu Yuan<mailto:liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com>; Carella, Giuseppe<mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> CC: Michael Pauls<mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi Yuan, Hasn't OPNFV-OPEN-O changed its name to Opera in its proposal? I'm not ure why there needs to be a link to a specific project name. I do have other feedback, though - I would love to know what relationship, if any, Orchestra intends to have with MANO related projects which are already in existence: Models, Parser, VES, Copper, Domino. I have the same questions/concerns about Opera, for that matter. I see a lot of words present in both architecture diagrams (Message queue, NS engine/policy engine, analytics engine, generic VNFM) and some common requirements that are not states (the need for an NSD, VNFFGD, VNFD) which suggest to me that there is room for creating common building blocks for these. Thanks, Dave. On 08/02/2016 05:44 AM, Liu Yuan wrote: > Hi Giuseppe, > > I am confused about the name of the project. Your main objective is to > integrate between Open Baton and OPNFV. There are many MANO / > Orcheatrator open source projects, and there is a MANO group in the > OPNFV. I don't think you could use the "Orchestra" to only appoint to > the Open Baton, maybe named Open Baton or OPNFV-Open Baton are more better. > > Regards, > Yuan > > Liu Yuan > liuyuan_c...@hotmail.com > > > *From:* Carella, Giuseppe <mailto:giuseppe.care...@fokus.fraunhofer.de> > *Date:* 2016-08-02 05:08 > *To:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org > <mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> > *CC:* Michael Pauls <mailto:michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> > *Subject:* [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal > Hi all, > > please find on the wiki [1] a new project proposal, named Orchestra, > having as main objective the integration between Open Baton and > OPNFV. We’ll be available to present it during the next TSC call. > > Get in touch if you are interested in getting involved. > > [1] https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Orchestra > > Cheers, > Giuseppe > > Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in > Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) > > > > ___ > opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list > opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org > https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss > -- Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com Ph: +1-978-399-2182 / Cell: +1-978-799-3338 ___ opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss
Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal
Hi Gerald, yes, my mistake ;-) Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) On 01 Aug 2016, at 23:43, Kunzmann, Gerald <kunzm...@docomolab-euro.com<mailto:kunzm...@docomolab-euro.com>> wrote: Hi Guiseppe, Thanks for your proposal. I assume you meant “present it during the next tech discuss call” on Thursday, right? ☺ Best regards, Gerald From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Carella, Giuseppe Sent: Montag, 1. August 2016 23:09 To: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Cc: Michael Pauls <michael.pa...@tu-berlin.de> Subject: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal Hi all, please find on the wiki [1] a new project proposal, named Orchestra, having as main objective the integration between Open Baton and OPNFV. We’ll be available to present it during the next TSC call. Get in touch if you are interested in getting involved. [1] https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Orchestra Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) ___ opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss
[opnfv-tech-discuss] [Orchestra] new project proposal
Hi all, please find on the wiki [1] a new project proposal, named Orchestra, having as main objective the integration between Open Baton and OPNFV. We’ll be available to present it during the next TSC call. Get in touch if you are interested in getting involved. [1] https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/PROJ/Orchestra Cheers, Giuseppe Join us at the IEEE 5G Week in November in Berlin (http://www.berlin5gweek.org/) ___ opnfv-tech-discuss mailing list opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org https://lists.opnfv.org/mailman/listinfo/opnfv-tech-discuss
