Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-30 Thread Dave Neary 
Hi,

On 09/28/2017 02:11 PM, Raymond Paik wrote:
> I brought this up during the TSC call, but my original proposal was to
> limit F-release to Australia/Oceania and G-release to Africa and it was
> vetoed (Dave, if you recall you were one of the people who was against
> this).

True - there's a difference between (say) including Ganges in the list
of G rivers as a major international river, or limiting continents to
2-3 choices, and having rivers that end up being inelligible because
they're too small, or having a 2nd choice from a continent we've already
had when we are looking to be inclusive.I'm happy not to be completely
strict about continents, but at the same time to limit the choices.

More appropriate for the criteria you mention below - I will provide
input when the time comes for that process.

> Anyhow, a suggestion was made in the TSC to do a re-vote on F-release
> name rather than go with the 2nd most popular choice from the original
> poll.  Brandon and I went through the rest of the candidates in the wiki
> 
> and did a quick check on availability of photos (e.g. on Google,
> Shutterstock, Istock, etc.) . In addition to Fenix, Flyers, Feliciano,
> and Fundacion were also problematic as noted on the wiki page.  I can
> create another poll with the remaining 9 rivers and run it for another week.
> 
> Creating & publishing a criteria makes sense and that's something we can
> do before we do another release naming poll next year.  I'm sure this
> will involve input from both technical and marketing community members...

Thank you for considering the community feedback on this, Ray!

Regards,
Dave.
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-28 Thread Wenjing Chu 
+1

Sounds like a good way forward. The filters make sense.

Regards
Wenjing

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I brought this up during the TSC call, but my original proposal was to limit 
F-release to Australia/Oceania and G-release to Africa and it was vetoed (Dave, 
if you recall you were one of the people who was against this).

Anyhow, a suggestion was made in the TSC to do a re-vote on F-release name 
rather than go with the 2nd most popular choice from the original poll.  
Brandon and I went through the rest of the candidates in the 
wiki<https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/SWREL/Future+release+name+candidates> and 
did a quick check on availability of photos (e.g. on Google, Shutterstock, 
Istock, etc.) . In addition to Fenix, Flyers, Feliciano, and Fundacion were 
also problematic as noted on the wiki page.  I can create another poll with the 
remaining 9 rivers and run it for another week.

Creating & publishing a criteria makes sense and that's something we can do 
before we do another release naming poll next year.  I'm sure this will involve 
input from both technical and marketing community members...

Thanks,

Ray



On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Dave Neary 
<dne...@redhat.com<mailto:dne...@redhat.com>> wrote:
Hi,

On 09/25/2017 05:24 PM, Raymond Paik wrote:
> Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.
>
> First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for
> OPNFV).
>
> For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However,
> after some research it looks this is a tributary of another river
> (Deseado <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseado_River>), and I wasn't
> able to find photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google
> Maps).
>
> I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for
> release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river
> that is not well known.  The second choice was Fraser
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_River> in Canada (the longest
> river in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the
> F-release name.  Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if
> you can't find it on a map.

Honestly I'm disappointed that we added so many options to the poll
after a proposal to have an Australasian river. I do think we should
have a filter in which rivers that are candidates are acceptable if they
win. Agreed on criteria should be applied to the options (size,
geographical location, geographical significance, availability of pretty
pictures for marketing, whatever the criteria are, they should be
objective and public).

Thanks,
Dave.

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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-28 Thread Raymond Paik 
I brought this up during the TSC call, but my original proposal was to
limit F-release to Australia/Oceania and G-release to Africa and it was
vetoed (Dave, if you recall you were one of the people who was against
this).

Anyhow, a suggestion was made in the TSC to do a re-vote on F-release name
rather than go with the 2nd most popular choice from the original poll.
Brandon and I went through the rest of the candidates in the wiki
 and
did a quick check on availability of photos (e.g. on Google, Shutterstock,
Istock, etc.) . In addition to Fenix, Flyers, Feliciano, and Fundacion were
also problematic as noted on the wiki page.  I can create another poll with
the remaining 9 rivers and run it for another week.

Creating & publishing a criteria makes sense and that's something we can do
before we do another release naming poll next year.  I'm sure this will
involve input from both technical and marketing community members...

Thanks,

Ray



On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 6:17 AM, Dave Neary  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 09/25/2017 05:24 PM, Raymond Paik wrote:
> > Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.
> >
> > First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for
> > OPNFV).
> >
> > For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However,
> > after some research it looks this is a tributary of another river
> > (Deseado ), and I wasn't
> > able to find photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google
> > Maps).
> >
> > I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for
> > release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river
> > that is not well known.  The second choice was Fraser
> >  in Canada (the longest
> > river in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the
> > F-release name.  Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if
> > you can't find it on a map.
>
> Honestly I'm disappointed that we added so many options to the poll
> after a proposal to have an Australasian river. I do think we should
> have a filter in which rivers that are candidates are acceptable if they
> win. Agreed on criteria should be applied to the options (size,
> geographical location, geographical significance, availability of pretty
> pictures for marketing, whatever the criteria are, they should be
> objective and public).
>
> Thanks,
> Dave.
>
> --
> Dave Neary - NFV/SDN Community Strategy
> Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-26 Thread Dave Neary 
Hi,

On 09/25/2017 05:24 PM, Raymond Paik wrote:
> Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.  
> 
> First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for
> OPNFV).  
> 
> For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However,
> after some research it looks this is a tributary of another river
> (Deseado ), and I wasn't
> able to find photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google
> Maps).  
> 
> I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for
> release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river
> that is not well known.  The second choice was Fraser
>  in Canada (the longest
> river in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the
> F-release name.  Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if
> you can't find it on a map.

Honestly I'm disappointed that we added so many options to the poll
after a proposal to have an Australasian river. I do think we should
have a filter in which rivers that are candidates are acceptable if they
win. Agreed on criteria should be applied to the options (size,
geographical location, geographical significance, availability of pretty
pictures for marketing, whatever the criteria are, they should be
objective and public).

Thanks,
Dave.

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Open Source and Standards, Red Hat - http://community.redhat.com
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-25 Thread Yujun Zhang (ZTE) 
+1 for Fraser 

I agree that it could be problematic if we name the release after something
difficult to find in map.

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 12:25 AM Raymond Paik 
wrote:

> All:
>
> Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.
>
> First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for
> OPNFV).
>
> For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However,
> after some research it looks this is a tributary of another river (Deseado
> ), and I wasn't able to find
> photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google Maps).
>
> I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for
> release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river that
> is not well known.  The second choice was Fraser
>  in Canada (the longest river
> in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the F-release
> name.  Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if you can't
> find it on a map.
>
> Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> Ray
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Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-25 Thread Frank Brockners (fbrockne) 
Ray,

while there are not a ton of river “Fenix” photos, there are some, e.g 
http://www.soberaniachile.cl/archivosdeimagenes/fenix.jpg and 
http://photo500x500.mnstatic.com/f11c1c363de24a0a5ad44bb39046e2da/rio-fenix-grande.jpg
 – there are wiki entries such as… 
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desv%C3%ADo_del_r%C3%ADo_F%C3%A9nix and 
https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%ADo_F%C3%A9nix_Grande

If you want better photos, do we have any friends in Argentina that fancy a 
trip to lago Buenos Aires? 
http://viento.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/desvio-rio-fenix.jpg

Frank

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All:

Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.

First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for OPNFV).

For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However, after 
some research it looks this is a tributary of another river 
(Deseado<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseado_River>), and I wasn't able to 
find photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google Maps).

I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for 
release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river that is 
not well known.  The second choice was 
Fraser<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraser_River> in Canada (the longest river 
in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the F-release name.  
Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if you can't find it on a 
map.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ray
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[opnfv-tech-discuss] [announce] 2018 OPNFV release names

2017-09-25 Thread Raymond Paik 
All:

Thanks for voting on the release naming poll.

First, for G-release the winner is Gambia (the first African river for
OPNFV).

For the F-release, the top vote getter was Fenix in Argentina.  However,
after some research it looks this is a tributary of another river (Deseado
), and I wasn't able to find
photos of Fenix River on the web (or even find it on Google Maps).

I talked to LF marketing colleagues as we've been using river images for
release marketing, and they do have concerns about going with a river that
is not well known.  The second choice was Fraser
 in Canada (the longest river
in British Columbia) and I suggest going with Fraser as the F-release
name.  Although Fenix sounds cool, I think it's problematic if you can't
find it on a map.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ray
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