Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

2018-08-15 Thread Bin Hu
Hello everyone,

Just a reminder that Wenjing will lead the kickoff discussion of Cloud Native 
WG at our weekly technical discussion tomorrow Thursday August 16. Hope 
everyone can make it.

Thank you
Bin

From: opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org  On Behalf Of Yang 
(Gabriel) Yu
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 10:25 PM
To: Wenjing Chu ; Tina Tsou ; Georg 
Kunz ; Gergely Csatari ; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong 
; brian.j.skerry ; Rossella 
Sblendido ; julienjut ; Fatih 
Degirmenci ; TSC OPNFV 
; Ryota Mibu ; Sridhar K. N. 
Rao 
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working 
group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

Hi Wenjing,

I'd like to participate.
Currently, I would start with the cloud native CD process which is valuable to 
the community especially to our future release.
Some of testing projects have already been investigating/working on the 
possibilities/methods to include themselves as services in the cloud native CD 
process.

In addition, I agree to a regular slot for meeting discussion is a great idea.

Best,
Gabriel

From: opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org> 
[mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Wenjing Chu
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:31 AM
To: Tina Tsou mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Georg Kunz 
mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; Gergely Csatari 
mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working 
group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

Thanks for all the interests... Please continue to let us know if you can 
participate or someone in your project can. We clearly want representation from 
container4nfv, installers that are producing k8s, edge cloud, data path, 
testing projects that are interested in cloud native testing ... and all of you 
really.

I'd propose that we use Bin's meeting slot for a kickoff community meeting as a 
start and level setting, and choose how we want to meet in future. I'm taking 
time off myself next week, but August 16 works for me.

Bin, would it be OK that we take the whole hour for August 16?
And does that time work for everyone?

Regards
Wenjing



From: Tina Tsou [mailto:tina.t...@arm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 3:13 PM
To: Georg Kunz mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; 
Gergely Csatari mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
Wenjing Chu mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Dear Wenjing,

We discussed it before, I'm interested to participate in.


Thank you,
Tina Tsou
Enterprise Architect
Arm
tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>
+1 (408)931-3833

From: Georg Kunz mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:08 PM
To: Gergely Csatari 
mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; Wenjing Chu 
mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Tina Tsou 
mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:s

Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

2018-08-09 Thread Tomi Juvonen
Hi,

This sounds great. I am in.

Looking the maintenance work ongoing in Doctor, it surely needs to work across 
different clouds and for that need to reach different communities.

Br,
Tomi

From: opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org  
On Behalf Of SerenaFeng(zte)
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2018 4:26 AM
To: Ryota Mibu 
Cc: HU, BIN ; Wenjing Chu ; Tina Tsou 
; Georg Kunz ; Csatari, Gergely 
(Nokia - HU/Budapest) ; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org; jason.jiax...@gmail.com; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong ; brian.j.skerry 
; Rossella Sblendido ; julienjut 
; Fatih Degirmenci ; TSC 
OPNFV ; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working 
group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

Sounds great~
Please count me in~

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:33 PM Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>> wrote:
Sounds nice, I’ll join the call.

/Ryota

From: HU, BIN [mailto:bh5...@att.com<mailto:bh5...@att.com>]
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 1:08 PM
To: Wenjing Chu mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; Tina 
Tsou mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Georg Kunz 
mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; Gergely Csatari 
mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Mibu 
Ryota(壬生 亮太) mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. 
Rao mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>

Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Wenjing,

Sounds good, and count me in too.

Let’s kick it off on 08/16 at technical community meeting time.

Thank you
Bin

From: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> 
mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>> 
On Behalf Of Wenjing Chu
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 5:31 PM
To: Tina Tsou mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Georg Kunz 
mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; Gergely Csatari 
mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Thanks for all the interests… Please continue to let us know if you can 
participate or someone in your project can. We clearly want representation from 
container4nfv, installers that are producing k8s, edge cloud, data path, 
testing projects that are interested in cloud native testing … and all of you 
really.

I’d propose that we use Bin’s meeting slot for a kickoff community meeting as a 
start and level setting, and choose how we want to meet in future. I’m taking 
time off myself next week, but August 16 works for me.

Bin, would it be OK that we take the whole hour for August 16?
And does that time work for everyone?

Regards
Wenjing



From: Tina Tsou [mailto:tina.t...@arm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 3:13 PM
To: Georg Kunz mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; 
Gergely Csatari mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
Wenjing Chu mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Dear Wenjing,

We discussed it before, I’m interested to pa

Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

2018-08-08 Thread SerenaFeng(zte)
Sounds great~
Please count me in~

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 9:33 PM Ryota Mibu  wrote:

> Sounds nice, I’ll join the call.
>
>
>
> /Ryota
>
>
>
> *From:* HU, BIN [mailto:bh5...@att.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 02, 2018 1:08 PM
> *To:* Wenjing Chu ; Tina Tsou ;
> Georg Kunz ; Gergely Csatari <
> gergely.csat...@nokia.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> *Cc:* jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong <
> stephen.wo...@huawei.com>; brian.j.skerry ;
> Rossella Sblendido ; julienjut ;
> Fatih Degirmenci ; TSC OPNFV <
> opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>; Mibu Ryota(壬生 亮太) ;
> Sridhar K. N. Rao 
>
>
> *Subject:* RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group
> proposal is being discussed in the TSC
>
>
>
> Wenjing,
>
>
>
> Sounds good, and count me in too.
>
>
>
> Let’s kick it off on 08/16 at technical community meeting time.
>
>
>
> Thank you
>
> Bin
>
>
>
> *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org <
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> *On Behalf Of *Wenjing Chu
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 5:31 PM
> *To:* Tina Tsou ; Georg Kunz ;
> Gergely Csatari ;
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> *Cc:* jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong <
> stephen.wo...@huawei.com>; brian.j.skerry ;
> Rossella Sblendido ; julienjut ;
> Fatih Degirmenci ; TSC OPNFV <
> opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>; Ryota Mibu ; Sridhar K.
> N. Rao 
> *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group
> proposal is being discussed in the TSC
>
>
>
> Thanks for all the interests… Please continue to let us know if you can
> participate or someone in your project can. We clearly want representation
> from container4nfv, installers that are producing k8s, edge cloud, data
> path, testing projects that are interested in cloud native testing … and
> all of you really.
>
>
>
> I’d propose that we use Bin’s meeting slot for a kickoff community meeting
> as a start and level setting, and choose how we want to meet in future. I’m
> taking time off myself next week, but August 16 works for me.
>
>
>
> Bin, would it be OK that we take the whole hour for August 16?
>
> And does that time work for everyone?
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Wenjing
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Tina Tsou [mailto:tina.t...@arm.com ]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 01, 2018 3:13 PM
> *To:* Georg Kunz ; Gergely Csatari <
> gergely.csat...@nokia.com>; Wenjing Chu ;
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> *Cc:* jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong <
> stephen.wo...@huawei.com>; brian.j.skerry ;
> Rossella Sblendido ; julienjut ;
> Fatih Degirmenci ; TSC OPNFV <
> opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>; Ryota Mibu ; Sridhar K.
> N. Rao 
> *Subject:* RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group
> proposal is being discussed in the TSC
>
>
>
> Dear Wenjing,
>
>
>
> We discussed it before, I’m interested to participate in.
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Tina Tsou
>
> Enterprise Architect
>
> Arm
>
> tina.t...@arm.com
>
> +1 (408)931-3833 <(408)%20931-3833>
>
>
>
> *From:* Georg Kunz 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:08 PM
> *To:* Gergely Csatari ; Wenjing Chu <
> wenjing@huawei.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> *Cc:* jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong <
> stephen.wo...@huawei.com>; brian.j.skerry ;
> Rossella Sblendido ; julienjut ;
> Tina Tsou ; Fatih Degirmenci <
> fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>; TSC OPNFV ;
> Ryota Mibu ; Sridhar K. N. Rao <
> sridhar@spirent.com>
> *Subject:* RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group
> proposal is being discussed in the TSC
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> Count me in, too.
>
>
>
> Best regards
>
> Georg
>
>
>
> *From:* opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org <
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> *On Behalf Of *Gergely Csatari
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:47 PM
> *To:* Wenjing Chu ;
> opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
> *Cc:* jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong <
> stephen.wo...@huawei.com>; Georg Kunz ;
> brian.j.skerry ; Rossella Sblendido <
> rsblend...@suse.com>; julienjut ; Tina Tsou <
> tina.t...@arm.com>; Fatih Degirmenci ; TSC
> OPNFV ; Ryota Mibu ;
> Sridhar K. N. Rao 
> *Subject:* Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group
> proposal is being discussed in the TSC
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I would be hap

Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

2018-08-07 Thread Yang (Gabriel) Yu
Hi Wenjing,

I'd like to participate.
Currently, I would start with the cloud native CD process which is valuable to 
the community especially to our future release.
Some of testing projects have already been investigating/working on the 
possibilities/methods to include themselves as services in the cloud native CD 
process.

In addition, I agree to a regular slot for meeting discussion is a great idea.

Best,
Gabriel

From: opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org [mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of 
Wenjing Chu
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2018 8:31 AM
To: Tina Tsou ; Georg Kunz ; 
Gergely Csatari ; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com; fuq...@chinamobile.com; Stephen Wong 
; brian.j.skerry ; Rossella 
Sblendido ; julienjut ; Fatih 
Degirmenci ; TSC OPNFV 
; Ryota Mibu ; Sridhar K. N. 
Rao 
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tsc] [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working 
group proposal is being discussed in the TSC

Thanks for all the interests... Please continue to let us know if you can 
participate or someone in your project can. We clearly want representation from 
container4nfv, installers that are producing k8s, edge cloud, data path, 
testing projects that are interested in cloud native testing ... and all of you 
really.

I'd propose that we use Bin's meeting slot for a kickoff community meeting as a 
start and level setting, and choose how we want to meet in future. I'm taking 
time off myself next week, but August 16 works for me.

Bin, would it be OK that we take the whole hour for August 16?
And does that time work for everyone?

Regards
Wenjing



From: Tina Tsou [mailto:tina.t...@arm.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2018 3:13 PM
To: Georg Kunz mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; 
Gergely Csatari mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; 
Wenjing Chu mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Dear Wenjing,

We discussed it before, I'm interested to participate in.


Thank you,
Tina Tsou
Enterprise Architect
Arm
tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>
+1 (408)931-3833

From: Georg Kunz mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 3:08 PM
To: Gergely Csatari 
mailto:gergely.csat...@nokia.com>>; Wenjing Chu 
mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Tina Tsou 
mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in the TSC

Hi,

Count me in, too.

Best regards
Georg

From: 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> 
mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>> 
On Behalf Of Gergely Csatari
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2018 12:47 PM
To: Wenjing Chu mailto:wenjing@huawei.com>>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Cc: jason.jiax...@gmail.com<mailto:jason.jiax...@gmail.com>; 
fuq...@chinamobile.com<mailto:fuq...@chinamobile.com>; Stephen Wong 
mailto:stephen.wo...@huawei.com>>; Georg Kunz 
mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>; brian.j.skerry 
mailto:brian.j.ske...@intel.com>>; Rossella Sblendido 
mailto:rsblend...@suse.com>>; julienjut 
mailto:julien...@gmail.com>>; Tina Tsou 
mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Fatih Degirmenci 
mailto:fatih.degirme...@ericsson.com>>; TSC 
OPNFV mailto:opnfv-...@lists.opnfv.org>>; Ryota Mibu 
mailto:r-m...@cq.jp.nec.com>>; Sridhar K. N. Rao 
mailto:sridhar@spirent.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] The OPNFV Cloud Native working group proposal 
is being discussed in