Re: [OPSAWG] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations

2023-12-17 Thread Loa Andersson
Italo,I wish that were trueslides-96-opsawg-8PDF Document · 928 KBLooking across the industry there are several examples of in-band OAM being abbreviated both as iOAM and IOAM. And that In-situ OAM is abbreviated as iOAM. Greg’s and my aim is to just to make sure that we have a consistent use of the abbreviations.I can live with almost anything that is clear enough to distinguish one from the other.  This is most a heads up to authors the write documents there there is a need for any abbreviation to make sure they use existing abbreviations when that is possible, and if a new abbreviation is created it is easy to distinguish from existing once.It is also a heads up to wg chairs that there is documents where this should be considered. /LoaSent from my iPadOn 14 Dec 2023, at 23:10, Italo Busi  wrote:







Loa, Greg,
 
I am not sure we really need abbreviations for in-band and out-of-band OAM since we have lived without these abbreviations for quite a long time. However, it does not harm to define those acronyms
 
While OOB is quite commonly used as an abbreviation for out-of-band, I do not recall to have ever seen an abbreviation for in-band
☹
 
My suggestion would be to use IB for in-band to have a consistent rule with the OOB acronym (i.e. ib-OAM and oob-OAM)
 
My 2 cents
 
Italo
 



From: Greg Mirsky  
Sent: mercoledì 13 dicembre 2023 04:13
To: DetNet WG ; mpls ; 6man WG ; IETF IPPM WG ; opsawg ; Pascal Thubert ; Loa Andersson 
Subject: [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations


 


Dear All,

Loa and I have discussed these abbreviations to help us find a solution that avoids the confusion we found when we came across them. Firstly, what they stand for:




IOAM - In-situ OAM (RFC 9197)
iOAM - in-band OAM (RAW architecture)
oOAM - out-of-band OAM (RAW architecture)
We discussed the issue with Pascal and came to slightly different abbreviations for the last two:




inb-OAM
oob-OAM

We also discord these abbreviations with the RFC Editor. Resulting from that, RFC Editor agreed to add IOAM to the
RFC Editor Abbreviation List. The other two abbreviations cannot be added at this time. If that is needed, we can ask the RFC Editor to add them once the respective RFC is published.



We are seeking your feedback on the following:




Do you see the benefit of introducing two new abbreviations for in-band OAM and out-of-band OAM?
Which set of abbreviations (iOAM/oOAM vs. inb-OAM/oob-OAM) do you prefer for being used in IETF? 
Or would you propose another set of abbreviations?
Regards,


Loa and Greg


 







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Re: [OPSAWG] [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations

2023-12-14 Thread Italo Busi
Loa, Greg,

I am not sure we really need abbreviations for in-band and out-of-band OAM 
since we have lived without these abbreviations for quite a long time. However, 
it does not harm to define those acronyms

While OOB is quite commonly used as an abbreviation for out-of-band, I do not 
recall to have ever seen an abbreviation for in-band ☹

My suggestion would be to use IB for in-band to have a consistent rule with the 
OOB acronym (i.e. ib-OAM and oob-OAM)

My 2 cents

Italo

From: Greg Mirsky 
Sent: mercoledì 13 dicembre 2023 04:13
To: DetNet WG ; mpls ; 6man WG ; 
IETF IPPM WG ; opsawg ; Pascal Thubert 
; Loa Andersson 
Subject: [mpls] IOAM, iOAM, and oOAM abbreviations

Dear All,
Loa and I have discussed these abbreviations to help us find a solution that 
avoids the confusion we found when we came across them. Firstly, what they 
stand for:

  *   IOAM - In-situ OAM (RFC 9197)
  *   iOAM - in-band OAM (RAW 
architecture)
  *   oOAM - out-of-band OAM (RAW 
architecture)
We discussed the issue with Pascal and came to slightly different abbreviations 
for the last two:

  *   inb-OAM
  *   oob-OAM
We also discord these abbreviations with the RFC Editor. Resulting from that, 
RFC Editor agreed to add IOAM to the RFC Editor Abbreviation 
List. The other two 
abbreviations cannot be added at this time. If that is needed, we can ask the 
RFC Editor to add them once the respective RFC is published.
We are seeking your feedback on the following:

  *   Do you see the benefit of introducing two new abbreviations for in-band 
OAM and out-of-band OAM?
  *   Which set of abbreviations (iOAM/oOAM vs. inb-OAM/oob-OAM) do you prefer 
for being used in IETF?
  *   Or would you propose another set of abbreviations?
Regards,
Loa and Greg

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