Re: is tor an email mixmaster?

2008-11-10 Thread Erilenz
* on the Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 10:43:29AM -0800, Christopher Davis wrote:

 someone has setup an open SMTP relay as hidden service:
   oogjrxidhkttf6vl.onionport: 587 
 May be, it works. I did not test it. :-(
  
 Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to be running. The idea is
 interesting, though. It would be prudent to enable spam filtering
 and/or hashcash for a service like this, of course.

Yeah. I've heared that relay mentioned several times before, but I've
never been able to connect to it. I can connect to other hidden services
fine. You're the first other person I've come across that has either
confirmed it working or not working.

-- 
Erilenz


Problems runing Tor on Vista x64

2008-11-10 Thread Przemyslaw Orzechowski
Hi I tried to run Tor on my Vista Ultimate x64 but for some reason
cant get it started only messages I get are as follows

Nov 10 09:34:42.387 [notice] Tor v0.2.0.31 (r16744). This is
experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity.
(Running on Windows Longhorn Service Pack 1 [workstation] {terminal
services, single user})
Nov 10 09:34:42.445 [err] Error from libevent: evsignal_init:
socketpair: No error

Same problem with latest stable and alpha.
No mater what I type on commandline or put into torrc result is always the same.
Tried runing it with elevated (admin) privileges and with standart
user privileges no difference.

Any sugestions would be welcome


Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread Jon McLachlan

Hey everyone,

  Our research team is a bit stuck on a problem of bootstrapping  
generic Tor on a private network in planetlab.  The two authoritative  
directory servers that we are running continuously complain that,


Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted  
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_directory_server(): No  
reachable router entries for dirservers. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] directory_get_from_dirserver(): No router  
found for consensus network-status fetch; falling back to dirserver  
list.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted  
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [notice] While fetching directory info, no running  
dirservers known. Will try again later. (purpose 14)



However, OR's in the network seem to think that they are publishing  
their descriptors without any problem.  When we attempt to browse to  
http://[host]:[port]/all into the Dir port of either of the two  
authoritative dir servers, it consistently responds with zero content  
- we are assuming this is why clients are OR's are not yet  
communicating with each other.  We've attempted this setup on both V1  
and V2 dir servers.


We have exhausted the specific guidance for running a private Tor  
network found here:

http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#OwnTorNetwork

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, or guidance would be most  
appreciated.  :)


~Jon


RE: Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread Steve Southam
Did you put the info about your authoritative directory servers into
config.c? You may need to run the them first to generate the fingerprints.
Have you looked at the IP addresses your ORs are publishing to?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jon McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:36 AM
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Dir servers on private networks

Hey everyone,

   Our research team is a bit stuck on a problem of bootstrapping  
generic Tor on a private network in planetlab.  The two authoritative  
directory servers that we are running continuously complain that,

Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted  
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_directory_server(): No  
reachable router entries for dirservers. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] directory_get_from_dirserver(): No router  
found for consensus network-status fetch; falling back to dirserver  
list.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted  
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [notice] While fetching directory info, no running  
dirservers known. Will try again later. (purpose 14)


However, OR's in the network seem to think that they are publishing  
their descriptors without any problem.  When we attempt to browse to  
http://[host]:[port]/all into the Dir port of either of the two  
authoritative dir servers, it consistently responds with zero content  
- we are assuming this is why clients are OR's are not yet  
communicating with each other.  We've attempted this setup on both V1  
and V2 dir servers.

We have exhausted the specific guidance for running a private Tor  
network found here:
http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#OwnTorNetwork

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, or guidance would be most  
appreciated.  :)

~Jon



Re: Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread Jon McLachlan
We didn't put the info into the config.c list of auth. dir servers,  
because it seems like the torrc options regarding Dirserver will  
override the hardcoded entries.  Perhaps this is a false assumption?


~Jon

On Nov 10, 2008, at 2:22 PM, Steve Southam wrote:


Did you put the info about your authoritative directory servers into
config.c? You may need to run the them first to generate the  
fingerprints.

Have you looked at the IP addresses your ORs are publishing to?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-or- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Behalf Of Jon McLachlan
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:36 AM
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Dir servers on private networks

Hey everyone,

  Our research team is a bit stuck on a problem of bootstrapping
generic Tor on a private network in planetlab.  The two authoritative
directory servers that we are running continuously complain that,

Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_directory_server(): No
reachable router entries for dirservers. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] directory_get_from_dirserver(): No router
found for consensus network-status fetch; falling back to dirserver
list.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No trusted
dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [notice] While fetching directory info, no running
dirservers known. Will try again later. (purpose 14)


However, OR's in the network seem to think that they are publishing
their descriptors without any problem.  When we attempt to browse to
http://[host]:[port]/all into the Dir port of either of the two
authoritative dir servers, it consistently responds with zero content
- we are assuming this is why clients are OR's are not yet
communicating with each other.  We've attempted this setup on both V1
and V2 dir servers.

We have exhausted the specific guidance for running a private Tor
network found here:
http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#OwnTorNetwork

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, or guidance would be most
appreciated.  :)

~Jon





problems with 0.2.1.7-alpha

2008-11-10 Thread Praedor Atrebates
When I build and install the latest 0.2.1.7-alpha tor, it refuses to run:

Nov 10 15:30:25.383 [notice] Tor v0.2.1.6-alpha (r17011). This is experimental 
software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity. (Running on Linux i686)   
 
Nov 10 15:30:25.385 [warn] Failed to parse/validate config: Servers must be 
able to freely connect to the rest of the Internet, so they must not set 
Reachable*Addresses or FascistFirewall. 
   
Nov 10 15:30:25.385 [err] Reading config failed--see warnings above.

When I go back to 0.2.1.6-alpha, it works fine.  What has changed in the 
latest to break it in this fashion?  Is there some new magical setting that 
needs to be made in the config?


Re: Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread Jon McLachlan
OR's are definitely posing their descriptors to the Dir, and the dir  
is collecting them, voting on them (V3), and publishing lists of them to


http://[dirserver]:[dirport]/tor/server/all

At the same time as the above statement is true, router descriptors  
are not being shared, as this dir log msg suggests:


Nov 10 14:39:25.176 [info]  
update_consensus_router_descriptor_downloads(): 0 router descriptors  
downloadable. 0 delayed; 0 present (0 of those were in old_routers); 0  
would_reject; 0 wouldnt_use; 0 in progress.


Maybe there is a way to force downloadablility of OR descriptors on  
dir servers instantly?


~Jon

On Nov 10, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Jon McLachlan wrote:


Hey everyone,

 Our research team is a bit stuck on a problem of bootstrapping  
generic Tor on a private network in planetlab.  The two  
authoritative directory servers that we are running continuously  
complain that,


Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No  
trusted dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_directory_server(): No  
reachable router entries for dirservers. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] directory_get_from_dirserver(): No router  
found for consensus network-status fetch; falling back to dirserver  
list.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No  
trusted dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [notice] While fetching directory info, no  
running dirservers known. Will try again later. (purpose 14)



However, OR's in the network seem to think that they are publishing  
their descriptors without any problem.  When we attempt to browse to  
http://[host]:[port]/all into the Dir port of either of the two  
authoritative dir servers, it consistently responds with zero  
content - we are assuming this is why clients are OR's are not yet  
communicating with each other.  We've attempted this setup on both  
V1 and V2 dir servers.


We have exhausted the specific guidance for running a private Tor  
network found here:

http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#OwnTorNetwork

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, or guidance would be most  
appreciated.  :)


~Jon




Re: Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 02:40:07PM -0600, Jon McLachlan wrote:
 Maybe there is a way to force downloadablility of OR descriptors on  
 dir servers instantly?

Check out the TestingTorNetwork config option in 0.2.1.x-alpha. It's
not quite instantly, but it turns on a lot of config options that make
it smoother to run your own network:

static config_var_t testing_tor_network_defaults[] = {
  V(ServerDNSAllowBrokenResolvConf, BOOL,  1),
  V(DirAllowPrivateAddresses,BOOL, 1),
  V(EnforceDistinctSubnets,  BOOL, 0),
  V(AssumeReachable, BOOL, 1),
  V(AuthDirMaxServersPerAddr,UINT, 0),
  V(AuthDirMaxServersPerAuthAddr,UINT, 0),
  V(ClientDNSRejectInternalAddresses, BOOL,0),
  V(ExitPolicyRejectPrivate, BOOL, 0),
  V(V3AuthVotingInterval,INTERVAL, 5 minutes),
  V(V3AuthVoteDelay, INTERVAL, 20 seconds),
  V(V3AuthDistDelay, INTERVAL, 20 seconds),
  V(TestingV3AuthInitialVotingInterval, INTERVAL, 5 minutes),
  V(TestingV3AuthInitialVoteDelay, INTERVAL, 20 seconds),
  V(TestingV3AuthInitialDistDelay, INTERVAL, 20 seconds),
  V(TestingAuthDirTimeToLearnReachability, INTERVAL, 0 minutes),
  V(TestingEstimatedDescriptorPropagationTime, INTERVAL, 0 minutes),

You'll still need to set your own DirServer lines.

If you continue to have problems, you should put your torrc files up
somewhere. Giving us ambiguous warning messages without hints about what
config options are set doesn't give us enough info. :)

--Roger



Re: problems with 0.2.1.7-alpha

2008-11-10 Thread phobos
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:38:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.7K bytes in 
12 lines about:
: When I build and install the latest 0.2.1.7-alpha tor, it refuses to run:
: 
: Nov 10 15:30:25.383 [notice] Tor v0.2.1.6-alpha (r17011). This is 
experimental 
: software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity. (Running on Linux i686) 
   

You aren't running 0.2.1.7-alpha here.

-- 
Andrew


Re: problems with 0.2.1.7-alpha

2008-11-10 Thread Praedor Atrebates
On Monday 10 November 2008 16:48:46 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 03:38:01PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.7K bytes 
in 12 lines about:
 : When I build and install the latest 0.2.1.7-alpha tor, it refuses to run:
 :
 : Nov 10 15:30:25.383 [notice] Tor v0.2.1.6-alpha (r17011). This is
 : experimental software. Do not rely on it for strong anonymity. (Running
 : on Linux i686)

 You aren't running 0.2.1.7-alpha here.

Oops.  I got this after trying to run 0.2.1.7-alpha and getting the same 
output, then I went back to 0.2.1.6-alpha but didn't go through the tork 
wizard process to set up tor, so I got the same thing with 0.2.1.6-alpha.  
Upon re-running the setup wizard, tor-0.2.1.6-alpha (unlike 0.2.1.7-alpha) 
worked fine...but I am nervous about running this one because of the problems 
I was having over the last week with RAM and CPU consumption.

praedor


Re: Dir servers on private networks

2008-11-10 Thread DM
A few months back I ran into the same problem.  I ended up using V3  
dir servers.



On Nov 10, 2008, at 12:36 PM, Jon McLachlan wrote:


Hey everyone,

 Our research team is a bit stuck on a problem of bootstrapping  
generic Tor on a private network in planetlab.  The two  
authoritative directory servers that we are running continuously  
complain that,


Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No  
trusted dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_directory_server(): No  
reachable router entries for dirservers. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] directory_get_from_dirserver(): No router  
found for consensus network-status fetch; falling back to dirserver  
list.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [info] router_pick_trusteddirserver(): No  
trusted dirservers are reachable. Trying them all again.
Nov 10 12:22:35.487 [notice] While fetching directory info, no  
running dirservers known. Will try again later. (purpose 14)



However, OR's in the network seem to think that they are publishing  
their descriptors without any problem.  When we attempt to browse to  
http://[host]:[port]/all into the Dir port of either of the two  
authoritative dir servers, it consistently responds with zero  
content - we are assuming this is why clients are OR's are not yet  
communicating with each other.  We've attempted this setup on both  
V1 and V2 dir servers.


We have exhausted the specific guidance for running a private Tor  
network found here:

http://wiki.noreply.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#OwnTorNetwork

Any comments, suggestions, ideas, or guidance would be most  
appreciated.  :)


~Jon




Version deprecated?

2008-11-10 Thread Geoff Down

This is new in the last day or so:
'Nov 10 16:24:16.973 [Notice] This version of Tor (0.2.0.31) is newer  
than any recommended version in its series, according to the directory  
authorities. Recommended versions are:  
0.1.2.17,0.1.2.18,0.1.2.19,0.2.0.26-rc,0.2.0.27-rc,0.2.0.28-rc,0.2.1.1- 
alpha,0.2.1.2-alpha,0.2.1.4-alpha,0.2.1.5-alpha,0.2.1.6-alpha,0.2.1.7- 
alpha '

 Since I got it in the Vidalia/Privoxy/Tor bundle, this seems odd.
The version at https://www.torproject.org/download.html.en hasn't  
changed


GD



Re: Version deprecated?

2008-11-10 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 04:01:22AM +, Geoff Down wrote:
 This is new in the last day or so:
 'Nov 10 16:24:16.973 [Notice] This version of Tor (0.2.0.31) is newer  
 than any recommended version in its series, according to the directory  
 authorities. Recommended versions are:  
 0.1.2.17,0.1.2.18,0.1.2.19,0.2.0.26-rc,0.2.0.27-rc,0.2.0.28-rc,0.2.1.1- 
 alpha,0.2.1.2-alpha,0.2.1.4-alpha,0.2.1.5-alpha,0.2.1.6-alpha,0.2.1.7- 
 alpha '

Looks like gabelmoo isn't recommending quite the set of versions it should
be recommending. That is, it's missing 0.2.0.29-rc, 0.2.0.30, 0.2.0.31.

Since moria1 and tor26 do recommend those, the majority rules, so you
will get the correct recommendations most of the time.

But I suppose if a consensus gets built that's missing moria1 or tor26,
then the majority of versioning authorities would no longer recommend
0.2.0.31.

Hopefully Karsten will fix his authority soon.

Thanks!
--Roger



Re: problems with 0.2.1.7-alpha

2008-11-10 Thread phobos
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 05:01:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.9K bytes in 
19 lines about:
: Upon re-running the setup wizard, tor-0.2.1.6-alpha (unlike 0.2.1.7-alpha) 
: worked fine...but I am nervous about running this one because of the problems 
: I was having over the last week with RAM and CPU consumption.

I wonder if tork is doing something odd with the config options.  The
minimum you have to configure for a relay is:
https://wiki.torproject.org/noreply/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#CanIJustConfigureAndRun.

-- 
Andrew


Re: Problems runing Tor on Vista x64

2008-11-10 Thread phobos
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 09:51:00AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.7K bytes in 
16 lines about:
: Nov 10 09:34:42.445 [err] Error from libevent: evsignal_init:
: socketpair: No error

It reads like libevent doesn't like something in the wow32 subsystem
inside 64-bit vista.   Do you get a drwatson crash dump?

-- 
Andrew


Re: Problems runing Tor on Vista x64

2008-11-10 Thread Lucky Green
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 09:51:00AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 0.7K bytes 
 in 16 lines about:
 : Nov 10 09:34:42.445 [err] Error from libevent: evsignal_init:
 : socketpair: No error

 It reads like libevent doesn't like something in the wow32 subsystem
 inside 64-bit vista.   Do you get a drwatson crash dump?
   
The venerable Dr. Watson chose to enter well-deserved retirement with
the release of Vista. The good doctor's successor is WinDbg.  Both
64-bit and 32-bit versions can be found at:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/DevTools/Debugging/default.mspx

Users of Windows XP, 2000, and even NT4 are equally encouraged to let
the good doctor rest by installing the tools found at the above URL.

Enjoy,
--Lucky