tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-23 Thread jon
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Greetings,

Just a couple of notes, since some Tor Project website mirror
operators may be subscribed to this list:


Recently there was some discussion regarding a discussion list for
mirror operators.  This has recently been brought to fruition.
Instructions on subscription are located here...

http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/


Some details regarding the list may be found on the first post to the
list...

http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/Jun-2009/msg0.html


One key change is that mirror changes/additions are now posted to this
list.  In the past, changes/additions were sent to tor-webmaster


Something that is also desired, is the admin contact for the mirror
operators.  Preferably stated in an introduction to the list.
Alternatively, you can send me the contact directly, if you please :)
A good email address is all that is requested.  This information will
help to better contact those operators whose mirrors are out of date,
or otherwise not working.  This way, we can let mirror operators know
when their mirror *may* be misconfigured or non-updated.


Also, if you host a mirror, and you notice that your organization is
missing, or inaccurate, and you would like to update it, please also
post that to the list.  Alternatively, let me know directly.

Thank you for supporting Tor!

Very best,

Jon

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Re: tor-mirrors (mirrors of the Tor Project website)

2009-06-23 Thread jon
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jon wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Just a couple of notes, since some Tor Project website mirror
> operators may be subscribed to this list:
>
>
> Recently there was some discussion regarding a discussion list for
> mirror operators.  This has recently been brought to fruition.
> Instructions on subscription are located here...
>
> http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/
>
>
> Some details regarding the list may be found on the first post to
> the list...
>
> http://archives.seul.org/tor/mirrors/Jun-2009/msg0.html
>
>
> One key change is that mirror changes/additions are now posted to
> this list.  In the past, changes/additions were sent to
> tor-webmaster
>
>
> Something that is also desired, is the admin contact for the mirror
>  operators.  Preferably stated in an introduction to the list.
> Alternatively, you can send me the contact directly, if you please
> :) A good email address is all that is requested.  This information
> will help to better contact those operators whose mirrors are out
> of date, or otherwise not working.  This way, we can let mirror
> operators know when their mirror *may* be misconfigured or
> non-updated.
>
>
> Also, if you host a mirror, and you notice that your organization
> is missing, or inaccurate, and you would like to update it, please
> also post that to the list.  Alternatively, let me know directly.
>
> Thank you for supporting Tor!
>
> Very best,
>
> Jon
>
... and /dist mirrors also.

The mirror list is on the website at:
http://www.torproject.org/mirrors.html.en

I apologize for the two emails instead of one.

Regards,
Jon


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many new relays

2009-06-23 Thread grarpamp
150% jump, in such a short time. Not sure
I'd welcome that so soon. I don't have a copy
of the old cache files from before the jump
began. But if someone does, consider putting
them up on a filehost or analyzing it a bit more.
This really should be looked at in more detail
before chalking it up to .ir or friendlies. And
how does this correspond to prior slashdot/digg
jumps.

netblock/isp/hostname/whois/country
platform
nickname
policy
bandwidth
contacts
uptime
etc


Re: Strange tor status...

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:56:07 +0300 Andrei Lavreniyuk 
wrote:
>If go through the log I have sent you, you can easily find out that
>ReactorRelay has different statements (from Exit to Valid) on the each
>directory servers at the same time.
>
>Can you please let me know why it happens?

 I see that Roger has already answered w.r.t. the proximal cause, and
I have no way to pursue the original cause.  As he pointed out, it could
be due to some incorrect change made by your ISP/hosting company.
 My point regarding the more recent descriptor was simply to show that
a) it was more recent than the ones you showed and b) the uptime was less
than ten minutes.  However, the difference in opinion among the authorities
regarding the "Running" flag is troubling and suggests that restart was
likely not the source of the problem, so I'm at a loss here.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army."   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**


Re: Strange tor status...

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Dingledine
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 06:03:35PM +0300, Andrei Lavreniyuk wrote:
> Who exactly can describe me why the status of ReactorRelay is not normal?
> Please check ReactorRelay's date and time. At present, concerning of the
> time differences, ReactorRelay is not included to servers list on most
> sites. In instance https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ skips ReactorRelay.
> 
> network-status-version 2
> dir-source moria 128.31.0.34 9032

moria2 is only a v2 directory authority. You are looking at obsolete
directory authorities and an obsolete directory protocol.

There does exist a torstatus that looks at v3 information. See e.g.
http://trunk.torstatus.kgprog.com/index.php

In any case, you appear to be another of those edge cases where some of
the directory authorities can reach you, and some of them can't.

moria1 can reach you:
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs 7T+TKBsijyincvCHza7JH+TQ3V0 
2009-06-23 21:48:26 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Exit Fast Guard Named Running Stable V2Dir Valid

tor26 cannot:
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs 7T+TKBsijyincvCHza7JH+TQ3V0 
2009-06-23 21:48:26 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Named V2Dir Valid

ides can:
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs 7T+TKBsijyincvCHza7JH+TQ3V0 
2009-06-23 21:48:26 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Exit Fast Guard Running Stable V2Dir Valid

dizum cannot:
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs 7T+TKBsijyincvCHza7JH+TQ3V0 
2009-06-23 21:48:26 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s V2Dir Valid

gabelmoo cannot:
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs 7T+TKBsijyincvCHza7JH+TQ3V0 
2009-06-23 21:48:26 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s V2Dir Valid

So the pattern is "America finds you reachable, and Europe finds you
unreachable."

Is your firewall set up in a funny way? Does your hosting provider have
its routing table broken?

See also
http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Apr-2009/msg00102.html
and my followup there:
http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/May-2009/msg00036.html

Same pattern of authority opinions too!

Hm.
--Roger



Tor 0.2.1.16-rc is out

2009-06-23 Thread Roger Dingledine
Tor 0.2.1.16-rc speeds up performance for fast exit relays, and fixes
a bunch of minor bugs.

https://www.torproject.org/download.html.en

Changes in version 0.2.1.16-rc - 2009-06-20
  o Security fixes:
- Fix an edge case where a malicious exit relay could convince a
  controller that the client's DNS question resolves to an internal IP
  address. Bug found and fixed by "optimist"; bugfix on 0.1.2.8-beta.

  o Major performance improvements (on 0.2.0.x):
- Disable and refactor some debugging checks that forced a linear scan
  over the whole server-side DNS cache. These accounted for over 50%
  of CPU time on a relatively busy exit node's gprof profile. Found
  by Jacob.
- Disable some debugging checks that appeared in exit node profile
  data.

  o Minor features:
- Update to the "June 3 2009" ip-to-country file.
- Do not have tor-resolve automatically refuse all .onion addresses;
  if AutomapHostsOnResolve is set in your torrc, this will work fine.

  o Minor bugfixes (on 0.2.0.x):
- Log correct error messages for DNS-related network errors on
  Windows.
- Fix a race condition that could cause crashes or memory corruption
  when running as a server with a controller listening for log
  messages.
- Avoid crashing when we have a policy specified in a DirPolicy or
  SocksPolicy or ReachableAddresses option with ports set on it,
  and we re-load the policy. May fix bug 996.
- Hidden service clients didn't use a cached service descriptor that
  was older than 15 minutes, but wouldn't fetch a new one either,
  because there was already one in the cache. Now, fetch a v2
  descriptor unless the same descriptor was added to the cache within
  the last 15 minutes. Fixes bug 997; reported by Marcus Griep.

  o Minor bugfixes (on 0.2.1.x):
- Don't warn users about low port and hibernation mix when they
  provide a *ListenAddress directive to fix that. Bugfix on
  0.2.1.15-rc.
- When switching back and forth between bridge mode, do not start
  gathering GeoIP data until two hours have passed.
- Do not complain that the user has requested an excluded node as
  an exit when the node is not really an exit. This could happen
  because the circuit was for testing, or an introduction point.
  Fix for bug 984.



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Re: Strange tor status...

2009-06-23 Thread Andrei Lavreniyuk
Hi Scott,

If go through the log I have sent you, you can easily find out that
ReactorRelay has different statements (from Exit to Valid) on the each
directory servers at the same time.

Can you please let me know why it happens?




2009/6/23, Scott Bennett :
>  On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:03:35 +0300 Andrei Lavreniyuk
> 
> wrote:
>>Who exactly can describe me why the status of ReactorRelay is not normal?
>
>  You are listed as the contact person in the descriptors.  Perhaps you
> should tell us why you keep starting and stopping it.
>
>>Please check ReactorRelay's date and time. At present, concerning of the
>>time differences, ReactorRelay is not included to servers list on most
>>sites. In instance https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ skips ReactorRelay.
>>
>  It isn't listed in the most recent consensus document.  Perhaps you
> had it shut down before or during the voting.
>>
>>
>>
>>-
>>
>>network-status-version 2
>>dir-source moria 128.31.0.34 9032
>>fingerprint 719BE45DE224B607C53707D0E2143E2D423E74CF
>>contact arma mit edu
>>published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
>>###
>>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>>s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Running Stable V2Dir Valid
>>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>>
>>
>>network-status-version 2
>>dir-source tor.dizum.com 194.109.206.212 80
>>fingerprint 7EA6EAD6FD83083C538F44038BBFA077587DD755
>>contact 1024R/8D56913D Alex de Joode 
>>published 2009-06-23 10:49:37
>>###
>>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>>s V2Dir Valid
>>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>>
>>
>>network-status-version 2
>>dir-source 86.59.21.38 86.59.21.38 80
>>fingerprint 847B1F850344D7876491A54892F904934E4EB85D
>>contact Peter Palfrader
>>published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
>>###
>>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>>s Named V2Dir Valid
>>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>>---
>>
>>network-status-version 2
>>dir-source 128.31.0.34 128.31.0.34 9031
>>fingerprint FFCB46DB1339DA84674C70D7CB586434C4370441
>>contact 1024D/28988BF5 arma mit edu
>>published 2009-06-23 10:42:01
>>###
>>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>>s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Named Running Stable V2Dir Valid
>>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>>--
>
>  I note that none of the above is the most recent:
>
> router ReactorRelay 86.111.64.45 9001 0 9030
> platform Tor 0.2.1.16-rc on FreeBSD amd64
> opt protocols Link 1 2 Circuit 1
> published 2009-06-23 13:47:51
> opt fingerprint 7A4A 7CD2 24A6 1C82 06F2 47F2 0B6C 2475 7F68 308B
> uptime 549
> ...
>
>
>   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
> **
> * Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
> **
> * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
> * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
> * -- a standing army."   *
> *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
> **
>


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Bill Weiss
Ted Smith(ted...@gmail.com)@Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 10:35:59AM -0400:
> You can't contact them. They come to you after you run a high-bandwidth
> exit node for a few months or more, depending on your uptime and
> security profile. ;-)

And here I've been avoiding those guys when they called and wrote!  I
thought I was in trouble!

*digs through the shred bin*

-- 
Bill Weiss
 
I hope they die together in Belen, and that's my only opinion about that.
-- overheard cell-phone conversation



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RE: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:26:00 -0700 "Zinco"  wrote:

>I thought it was funny.  And knew it was a joke right away. 

 The web site appears to me to be the product of someone's mental health
troubles, which is the sort of thing that, in my book at least, doesn't even
get to take the snicker test, much less pass it, nor does it have any obvious
connection to tor.  OR-TALK, AFAIK, was not intended to be a mental health-
related discussion list.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army."   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**


Re: Strange tor status...

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:03:35 +0300 Andrei Lavreniyuk 
wrote:
>Who exactly can describe me why the status of ReactorRelay is not normal?

 You are listed as the contact person in the descriptors.  Perhaps you
should tell us why you keep starting and stopping it.

>Please check ReactorRelay's date and time. At present, concerning of the
>time differences, ReactorRelay is not included to servers list on most
>sites. In instance https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ skips ReactorRelay.
>
 It isn't listed in the most recent consensus document.  Perhaps you
had it shut down before or during the voting.
>
>
>
>-
>
>network-status-version 2
>dir-source moria 128.31.0.34 9032
>fingerprint 719BE45DE224B607C53707D0E2143E2D423E74CF
>contact arma mit edu
>published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
>###
>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Running Stable V2Dir Valid
>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>
>
>network-status-version 2
>dir-source tor.dizum.com 194.109.206.212 80
>fingerprint 7EA6EAD6FD83083C538F44038BBFA077587DD755
>contact 1024R/8D56913D Alex de Joode 
>published 2009-06-23 10:49:37
>###
>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>s V2Dir Valid
>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>
>
>network-status-version 2
>dir-source 86.59.21.38 86.59.21.38 80
>fingerprint 847B1F850344D7876491A54892F904934E4EB85D
>contact Peter Palfrader
>published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
>###
>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>s Named V2Dir Valid
>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>---
>
>network-status-version 2
>dir-source 128.31.0.34 128.31.0.34 9031
>fingerprint FFCB46DB1339DA84674C70D7CB586434C4370441
>contact 1024D/28988BF5 arma mit edu
>published 2009-06-23 10:42:01
>###
>r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
>2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
>s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Named Running Stable V2Dir Valid
>opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
>--

 I note that none of the above is the most recent:

router ReactorRelay 86.111.64.45 9001 0 9030
platform Tor 0.2.1.16-rc on FreeBSD amd64
opt protocols Link 1 2 Circuit 1
published 2009-06-23 13:47:51
opt fingerprint 7A4A 7CD2 24A6 1C82 06F2 47F2 0B6C 2475 7F68 308B
uptime 549
...


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army."   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**


RE: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Zinco
I thought it was funny.  And knew it was a joke right away. 

-Original Message-
From: owner-or-t...@freehaven.net [mailto:owner-or-t...@freehaven.net] On
Behalf Of Harry Hoffman
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 7:27 AM
To: or-talk@freehaven.net
Subject: Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

Um, sorry... any references made to actually receiving money from a
government organization for capturing traffic were meant as a joke.

The article was so ludicrous that it (IMO) deserved a humorous response.

Too many conspiracy theories going on now-a-days.

Cheers,
Harry

krishna e bera wrote:
> Could someone post the contact addresses for cashing in?
> And perhaps some proof that they do (or do not) pay?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:55:57PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
>> thus Tom Hek spake:
>>> On Jun 23, 2009, at 15:01 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:
>>>
 At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon 
 I'll be able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails 
 say, let your computer work for you!
>>> You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from 
>>> the AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think 
>>> about moving to the VS..
>>>
>>> -Tom
>> :D
>>
>> Well, I just bought a nice house at the sea side in south west 
>> Portugal (paid by BND, for my exit nodes running ;).
>>
>> SCNR
> 



Strange tor status...

2009-06-23 Thread Andrei Lavreniyuk
Hi!



Who exactly can describe me why the status of ReactorRelay is not normal?
Please check ReactorRelay's date and time. At present, concerning of the
time differences, ReactorRelay is not included to servers list on most
sites. In instance https://torstatus.blutmagie.de/ skips ReactorRelay.




-

network-status-version 2
dir-source moria 128.31.0.34 9032
fingerprint 719BE45DE224B607C53707D0E2143E2D423E74CF
contact arma mit edu
published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
###
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Running Stable V2Dir Valid
opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc


network-status-version 2
dir-source tor.dizum.com 194.109.206.212 80
fingerprint 7EA6EAD6FD83083C538F44038BBFA077587DD755
contact 1024R/8D56913D Alex de Joode 
published 2009-06-23 10:49:37
###
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s V2Dir Valid
opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc


network-status-version 2
dir-source 86.59.21.38 86.59.21.38 80
fingerprint 847B1F850344D7876491A54892F904934E4EB85D
contact Peter Palfrader
published 2009-06-23 10:41:35
###
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Named V2Dir Valid
opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
---

network-status-version 2
dir-source 128.31.0.34 128.31.0.34 9031
fingerprint FFCB46DB1339DA84674C70D7CB586434C4370441
contact 1024D/28988BF5 arma mit edu
published 2009-06-23 10:42:01
###
r ReactorRelay ekp80iSmHIIG8kfyC2wkdX9oMIs pns3UGaUk2MMJy9iWYIsVVsvQDQ
2009-06-23 09:18:34 86.111.64.45 9001 9030
s Exit Fast Guard HSDir Named Running Stable V2Dir Valid
opt v Tor 0.2.1.15-rc
--




Best regards, Andrei Lavreniyuk.


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Tom Hek

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On Jun 23, 2009, at 16:17 PM, krishna e bera wrote:


Could someone post the contact addresses for cashing in?
And perhaps some proof that they do (or do not) pay?


We were just joking about secret services paying people to run Tor.

- - Tom
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Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Timo Schoeler

thus Scott Bennett spake:
>  On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:25:01 +0200 Timo Schoeler
>  wrote:
>> thus Scott Bennett spake:
>>>  On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:22:04 +0200 Timo Schoeler
>>>  wrote:
>>>
 http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html
>>>  Why did you post the above to OR-TALK?  If you intended it to 
be some

>>> form of humor, you definitely missed the mark.
>>>
>> Neither humor nor pun intended. Sorry if I wasted your
>> time/electrons/bandwidth.
>>
>  I repeat:  why did you post it?  What did you intend?  You posted it
> without any explanation as to why anyone should bother.
>
>
>   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG

i) because it's 'talk' and not '/dev/null'

ii) meanwhile, a few people responded to it; even if the responses are 
humorous, they're still responses, aren't they?


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:25:01 +0200 Timo Schoeler
 wrote:
>thus Scott Bennett spake:
>>  On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:22:04 +0200 Timo Schoeler
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html
>> 
>>  Why did you post the above to OR-TALK?  If you intended it to be some
>> form of humor, you definitely missed the mark.
>> 
>
>Neither humor nor pun intended. Sorry if I wasted your 
>time/electrons/bandwidth.
>
 I repeat:  why did you post it?  What did you intend?  You posted it
without any explanation as to why anyone should bother.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army."   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Ted Smith
You can't contact them. They come to you after you run a high-bandwidth
exit node for a few months or more, depending on your uptime and
security profile. ;-)

On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 10:17 -0400, krishna e bera wrote:
> Could someone post the contact addresses for cashing in?
> And perhaps some proof that they do (or do not) pay?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:55:57PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> > thus Tom Hek spake:
> >> On Jun 23, 2009, at 15:01 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:
> >>
> >>> At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll  
> >>> be able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails say, 
> >>> let your computer work for you!
> >>
> >> You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from the 
> >> AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think about 
> >> moving to the VS..
> >>
> >> -Tom
> >
> > :D
> >
> > Well, I just bought a nice house at the sea side in south west Portugal  
> > (paid by BND, for my exit nodes running ;).
> >
> > SCNR



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Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Hoffman
Um, sorry... any references made to actually receiving money from a 
government organization for capturing traffic were meant as a joke.


The article was so ludicrous that it (IMO) deserved a humorous response.

Too many conspiracy theories going on now-a-days.

Cheers,
Harry

krishna e bera wrote:

Could someone post the contact addresses for cashing in?
And perhaps some proof that they do (or do not) pay?


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:55:57PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:

thus Tom Hek spake:

On Jun 23, 2009, at 15:01 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:

At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll  
be able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails say, 
let your computer work for you!
You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from the 
AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think about 
moving to the VS..


-Tom

:D

Well, I just bought a nice house at the sea side in south west Portugal  
(paid by BND, for my exit nodes running ;).


SCNR




Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Timo Schoeler

thus Scott Bennett spake:

 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:22:04 +0200 Timo Schoeler
 wrote:


http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html


 Why did you post the above to OR-TALK?  If you intended it to be some
form of humor, you definitely missed the mark.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG



Neither humor nor pun intended. Sorry if I wasted your 
time/electrons/bandwidth.


Best,

Timo


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread krishna e bera
Could someone post the contact addresses for cashing in?
And perhaps some proof that they do (or do not) pay?


On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:55:57PM +0200, Timo Schoeler wrote:
> thus Tom Hek spake:
>> On Jun 23, 2009, at 15:01 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:
>>
>>> At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll  
>>> be able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails say, 
>>> let your computer work for you!
>>
>> You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from the 
>> AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think about 
>> moving to the VS..
>>
>> -Tom
>
> :D
>
> Well, I just bought a nice house at the sea side in south west Portugal  
> (paid by BND, for my exit nodes running ;).
>
> SCNR


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:22:04 +0200 Timo Schoeler
 wrote:

>http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html

 Why did you post the above to OR-TALK?  If you intended it to be some
form of humor, you definitely missed the mark.


  Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
**
* Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
**
* "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
* objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
* -- a standing army."   *
*-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
**


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Timo Schoeler

thus Tom Hek spake:

On Jun 23, 2009, at 15:01 PM, Harry Hoffman wrote:

At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll 
be able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails say, let 
your computer work for you!


You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from the 
AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think about moving 
to the VS..


-Tom


:D

Well, I just bought a nice house at the sea side in south west Portugal 
(paid by BND, for my exit nodes running ;).


SCNR


Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Tom Hek

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At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll  
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let your computer work for you!


You get payed $0.20USD/MB? I only got an offer of 0,05 euro/MB from  
the AIVD (the Dutch intelligence service). Maybe I should think about  
moving to the VS..


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Re: Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Harry Hoffman
oh, sure this has been known for a long time. In fact, the CIA will even 
pay you (much like google adsense) per MB that you allow them to 
intercept upon exit.


At $0.20USD/MB I was able to supplement my regular income. Soon I'll be 
able to quit my regular job. It's like all of those emails say, let your 
computer work for you!


Cheers,
Harry

PS -> Why does Baphomet have breasts? ;-)

Timo Schoeler wrote:

http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html



Conspiracy: Piratebay owned by CIA (TOR involved, also)

2009-06-23 Thread Timo Schoeler

http://joyn.org/conspiracy/ThePiratebay-owned-by-CIA.html


Re: ShutdownWaitLength vs. 'restart' in init scripts

2009-06-23 Thread m
If the package came from Fedoras repository they may use their own
init-scripts. Contact Fedoras bugreporting.

M


Bill McGonigle wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I noticed a problem with the init script I have with the tor package on
> Fedora 10.  The 'restart' command (just a start and stop) sends a -INT
> to the running process, but doesn't account for ShutdownWaitLength.  It
> looks like the old server instance unbinds, so the new one can start up,
> but then when the old one is really ready to die, it takes them all out,
> which leaves an inconsistent lockfile state and no tor running.  I first
> noticed this on a version upgrade (which runs a 'restart').
> 
> Looks like this:
>   Jun 22 22:09:39.260 [notice] Performing bandwidth self-test...done.
> 
> 
>   Jun 22 22:09:57.620 [notice] Clean shutdown
> 
> So, I'm curious what other folks are doing to handle this.  I'm thinking
> in order of preference:
> 
>  * wait for the pid file to disappear
>  * extract ShutdownWaitLength from the config and wait that long
>  * send a double -INT on stop()
>  * wait 30 seconds
> 
> or, perhaps even better: fixing the server shutdown process so the old
> server can't take out the new server.
> 
> But today is the first time I've ever run a tor relay, and I don't know
> the codebase or what I don't know, so pointers appreciated from those
> who may have already figured this out.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Bill
>