Re: vidalia can't create the circuit.
My problem: I use the vidalia connect the network. My tor version is 0.2.1.21. I can't create the circuit. The vidalia stop at "Loading relay information". From the log, it show a lot of below messages: Notice I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build a circuit: We have no network-status consensus. After a long wait.. The log show: Notice Your system clock just jumped 421 seconds forward; assuming established circuits no longer work. I already select the "My ISP blocks connections to the Tor network" and input the bridge got from brid...@torproject.org. Tor need any special linux kernel config? The problem occur on my arm based embedded system(I build the kernel and image myself. Also compile tor source codes for it.). I am sure the network connection is no problem because the vidalia can work perfectly on my PC(ubuntu 9.04). I'm very glad to provide any further information. 2010/1/25 代尔欣 > Hi all, > I send wrong mailing list? Do not get feedback yet. Send below message > to or-talk@freehaven.net(which I received some mails) again. Hope this do > not annoy you. I searched the mail list and did not get any related topics > about this problem. Would anyone like to shed light on this issue for me? > > Thanks!! > > 2010/1/22 代尔欣 > > Hi all, >> Is it the correct place ask this? I use a linux system. I use the >> vidalid connect the network. My tor version is 0.2.1.21. I can't create the >> circuit. The vidalia stop at "Loading relay information". From the log, it >> show a lot of below messages: >> Notice I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build >> a circuit: We have no network-status consensus. >> >> After a long wait.. >> >> The log show: >> Notice Your system clock just jumped 421 seconds forward; assuming >> established circuits no longer work. >> >> I already select the "My ISP blocks connections to the Tor network" and >> input the bridge got from brid...@torproject.org. >> >> Any idea resolve this? Tor need any special linux kernel config? If you >> need more futher information, I'm very glad to provide. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >
Re: vidalia can't create the circuit.
Hi all, I send wrong mailing list? Do not get feedback yet. Send below message to or-talk@freehaven.net(which I received some mails) again. Hope this do not annoy you. I searched the mail list and did not get any related topics about this problem. Would anyone like to shed light on this issue for me? Thanks!! 2010/1/22 代尔欣 > Hi all, > Is it the correct place ask this? I use a linux system. I use the > vidalid connect the network. My tor version is 0.2.1.21. I can't create the > circuit. The vidalia stop at "Loading relay information". From the log, it > show a lot of below messages: > Notice I learned some more directory information, but not enough to build > a circuit: We have no network-status consensus. > > After a long wait.. > > The log show: > Notice Your system clock just jumped 421 seconds forward; assuming > established circuits no longer work. > > I already select the "My ISP blocks connections to the Tor network" and > input the bridge got from brid...@torproject.org. > > Any idea resolve this? Tor need any special linux kernel config? If you > need more futher information, I'm very glad to provide. > > Thanks! > >
Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
In fact most IPSs classify DMCA notices as abuse and if you do not respond they will probably disconnect your machine. Another fact is that the mass of DMCA notices the copyright enforcement companies send to the ISPs could lead to a cancelation of your contract cause of the mass of "abuse". Or lead the ISPs to ideas like to charge extra per DMCA notice or complaint. Robert On Jan 24, 2010, at 12:16 PM, Olaf Selke wrote: > If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? Regarding my > exit node I simply ignore them. > > Olaf > > -- Gesendet von meinem Palm Pre > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
> In addition, there is a mailinglist for exitnode-operators within Germany: > http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2008/msg00043.html this pointer doesn't really help when the only available list archives strip anything with an '@' in the message as a misguided spamfighting attempt. the address you want is here, and their list has raw, unmangled, archives available via the help system: exitnodes-subscr...@lists.ccc.de *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: OSX bundle
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 12:51:17PM -0500, downgeo...@hotmail.com wrote 2.3K bytes in 66 lines about: : Thanks. If I want to start up Polipo at boot, is : /Applications/Vidalia.app/Contents/MacOS/polipo -c /Applications/Vidalia.app/Contents/Resources/polipo.conf : sufficient? Yes. -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp 0x31B0974B Website: https://torproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/ Identi.ca: torproject *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:59:00PM +, moeedsa...@gmail.com wrote 3.1K bytes in 76 lines about: : I think the default settings are actually done by the TOR programmers, as : the default proxy settings are routed to TOR. The defaults are what's shipped with Pidgin Portable. And to make this simpler, https://bugs.torproject.org/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=1227. Filed. I'll get to it. If you want to figure out what changes and submit a patch, it'll get done far faster. Hint, hint. ;) -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp 0x31B0974B Website: https://torproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/ Identi.ca: torproject *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
> There is a german "Verein" of tor node admins, the German Privacy > Foundation. Hereby you are invited to join, see www.privacyfoundation.de. In addition, there is a mailinglist for exitnode-operators within Germany: http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/Mar-2008/msg00043.html If you're searching for a lawyer, contact: torwa...@ccc.de Some more information may be found here [1]. [1] https://berlin.ccc.de/wiki/FAQ_f%C3%BCr_den_Anonymizerbetrieb *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 5:31 PM, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > Ask the pidgin developers I think the default settings are actually done by the TOR programmers, as the default proxy settings are routed to TOR. and note that the *main* use case of pidgin is > probably *non*-anonymous IM where usually the host of users will *want* > to retain logs and would be surprised in a bad way if logs have *not* > been retained (and thus aren't recoverable). Removing logs later is > easier than recovering non-existant ones from that perspective. > I understand your point, but i dont believe the main use of Pidgin users routed through TOR is non-anonymous and will want to retain logs. Is this format better? I'll get teh hang of it. > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >
Re: default setting in pidgin
(Not quoting at all isn't much better, see the cited web pages. And see how most people here *do* it.) On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:26:55PM +, M wrote: >Thanks, so back to my main question, is there any reason to leave the >default settings how they are? Any harm in changing them? Ask the pidgin developers and note that the *main* use case of pidgin is probably *non*-anonymous IM where usually the host of users will *want* to retain logs and would be surprised in a bad way if logs have *not* been retained (and thus aren't recoverable). Removing logs later is easier than recovering non-existant ones from that perspective. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
Thanks, so back to my main question, is there any reason to leave the default settings how they are? Any harm in changing them?
Re: default setting in pidgin
On 2010-01-24 18:15, M wrote: > what is "top posting" ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 05:15:08PM +, M wrote: >what is "top posting" ? http://www.google.com/search?q=%22top+posting%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
what is "top posting" ? On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:26 PM, G-Lo ♂ wrote: > When you know that Pidgin is storing passwords as cleartext, your first > reflex must be to store Tor-bundle on an encrypted storage device. > Logging history is secondary compared to clear passwords. > > Hannah Schroeter wrote : > > Hi! > > > > (Please don't top-post). > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 04:07:05PM +, M wrote: > > > >> The pidgin also has an OTR addon, so the point is also privacy along > with > >> anonymity, and one or the other or both will be compromised in case the > usb > >> is lost, discovered, left in someones device, etc... > >> > > > > Right. W/o OTR or something like that, you might have anonymity, but at > > the prize of being more easily attacked at malicious exit nodes. > > > > > >> Anyways, yes, i can turn it off, but the hundreds of others may not > explore > >> the settings, or they may not even understand them. > >> I fell the settings should be changed so that it does not log by > default. > >> > > > > But even then, people really *needing* privacy must think for themselves > > anyway. Other default settings may still not be taken as a sign that > things > > are already safe. And one must always be very conscious about one's > > behavior. What does turning logging off help if one conveys information > > about one's identity in the *content* of conversations, for example? > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Hannah. > > *** > > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > > > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >
Re: TLS Error on Mac OS X 10.5
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 04:45:16PM +, gr...@ucs.cam.ac.uk wrote 0.6K bytes in 14 lines about: : I'm running a fully patched Mac OS X 10.5 machine and I'm getting the "TLS Error: unexpected close..." message from TOR. : I understand that this is due to the SSL renegotiation bug/fix. Is there any timescale for the Tor/Vidalia Mac bundle to get a fix/work around ? Right now, no. You can keep up with progress on the bug at https://bugs.torproject.org/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=1225 -- Andrew Lewman The Tor Project pgp 0x31B0974B Website: https://torproject.org/ Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/ Identi.ca: torproject *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
TLS Error on Mac OS X 10.5
I'm running a fully patched Mac OS X 10.5 machine and I'm getting the "TLS Error: unexpected close..." message from TOR. I've tried both the current stable easy-bundle (vidalia-bundle-0.2.1.22-0.2.6) & the experimental version (vidalia-bundle-0.2.2.7-alpha-0.2.6) Both give the same error. I understand that this is due to the SSL renegotiation bug/fix. Is there any timescale for the Tor/Vidalia Mac bundle to get a fix/work around ? GTG*** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
When you know that Pidgin is storing passwords as cleartext, your first reflex must be to store Tor-bundle on an encrypted storage device. Logging history is secondary compared to clear passwords. Hannah Schroeter wrote : > Hi! > > (Please don't top-post). > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 04:07:05PM +, M wrote: > >> The pidgin also has an OTR addon, so the point is also privacy along with >> anonymity, and one or the other or both will be compromised in case the usb >> is lost, discovered, left in someones device, etc... >> > > Right. W/o OTR or something like that, you might have anonymity, but at > the prize of being more easily attacked at malicious exit nodes. > > >> Anyways, yes, i can turn it off, but the hundreds of others may not explore >> the settings, or they may not even understand them. >> I fell the settings should be changed so that it does not log by default. >> > > But even then, people really *needing* privacy must think for themselves > anyway. Other default settings may still not be taken as a sign that things > are already safe. And one must always be very conscious about one's > behavior. What does turning logging off help if one conveys information > about one's identity in the *content* of conversations, for example? > > Kind regards, > > Hannah. > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ > *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
Hi! (Please don't top-post). On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 04:07:05PM +, M wrote: >The pidgin also has an OTR addon, so the point is also privacy along with >anonymity, and one or the other or both will be compromised in case the usb >is lost, discovered, left in someones device, etc... Right. W/o OTR or something like that, you might have anonymity, but at the prize of being more easily attacked at malicious exit nodes. >Anyways, yes, i can turn it off, but the hundreds of others may not explore >the settings, or they may not even understand them. >I fell the settings should be changed so that it does not log by default. But even then, people really *needing* privacy must think for themselves anyway. Other default settings may still not be taken as a sign that things are already safe. And one must always be very conscious about one's behavior. What does turning logging off help if one conveys information about one's identity in the *content* of conversations, for example? Kind regards, Hannah. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
Re: default setting in pidgin
The pidgin also has an OTR addon, so the point is also privacy along with anonymity, and one or the other or both will be compromised in case the usb is lost, discovered, left in someones device, etc... Anyways, yes, i can turn it off, but the hundreds of others may not explore the settings, or they may not even understand them. I fell the settings should be changed so that it does not log by default. On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > Hi! > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 03:30:10PM +, M wrote: > >I was wondering why the default settings in Pidgin in the TOR-IM-Browser > is > >set to* log chats and private messages*. I think this is quite contrary to > >the main purpose of TOR, which is anonymity, as it may very well be > >compromised if the if the USB, etc, falls into the other people's hands. > >Also, i dont think most people go into into the settings to change them, > as > >they feel the setting are already optimized by the crew. > > People who are really paranoid should check their things anyway. > > Either log to a crypto partition or disable logging. Or if the aim of > anonymity is something different (like not being tracked by *outside* > people), the "risk" of local logging might not be in the scope of the > threat model anyway. > > Kind regards, > > Hannah. > *** > To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with > unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/ >
Re: default setting in pidgin
Hi! On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 03:30:10PM +, M wrote: >I was wondering why the default settings in Pidgin in the TOR-IM-Browser is >set to* log chats and private messages*. I think this is quite contrary to >the main purpose of TOR, which is anonymity, as it may very well be >compromised if the if the USB, etc, falls into the other people's hands. >Also, i dont think most people go into into the settings to change them, as >they feel the setting are already optimized by the crew. People who are really paranoid should check their things anyway. Either log to a crypto partition or disable logging. Or if the aim of anonymity is something different (like not being tracked by *outside* people), the "risk" of local logging might not be in the scope of the threat model anyway. Kind regards, Hannah. *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
default setting in pidgin
Hi guys, I was wondering why the default settings in Pidgin in the TOR-IM-Browser is set to* log chats and private messages*. I think this is quite contrary to the main purpose of TOR, which is anonymity, as it may very well be compromised if the if the USB, etc, falls into the other people's hands. Also, i dont think most people go into into the settings to change them, as they feel the setting are already optimized by the crew.
Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
Am Sonntag 24 Januar 2010 schrieb Arian Sanusi: > Olaf Selke schrieb: > > If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? > > Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. > > > > Olaf > I don't know why one should, but I got that damn bill over 192€, thats > what I mainly care about. I mean, if that was like 20€ I could live with > that even if that was cheeky anyway. > > Arian If I understand Olaf in the right way, he wants to say: "What the hell does your ISP take care about DMCA requests within germany? DMCA is NOT german law. They dont have to care about such requests at all and shall send them to /dev/null. If they waste their time and take care of such requests it is their decision and cant make you responsible for this." If I understand Olaf right he might have the opinion you should refuse to pay that. Anyway, you should try to speak with someone of their staff directly to clear that incident. There is a german "Verein" of tor node admins, the German Privacy Foundation. Hereby you are invited to join, see www.privacyfoundation.de. Best wishes signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
Olaf Selke schrieb: > If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? > Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. > > Olaf I don't know why one should, but I got that damn bill over 192€, thats what I mainly care about. I mean, if that was like 20€ I could live with that even if that was cheeky anyway. Arian *** To unsubscribe, send an e-mail to majord...@torproject.org with unsubscribe or-talkin the body. http://archives.seul.org/or/talk/
AW: tor exit-node abused, takedown by ISP,
If US law doesn't apply, why should one care about dmca notices? Regarding my exit node I simply ignore them. Olaf -- Gesendet von meinem Palm Pre
